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What You Should Know About the Possibility of COVID-19 Illness After Vaccination
 

 

 
I agree with the point made above about asymptomatic infections. This suggests vaccinated people who get infected but are asymptomatic and have no idea they have COVID are going to be giving it to unvaccinated people who are maskless.
 
Is this math right? It seems like the risks to the unmasked and unvaccinated go up. They have the same underlying health exposure they had before. But now there are a lot fewer people wearing masks. And there's some chance those people may have asymptomatic COVID, even though they were vaccinated. We'll know more in three or six months. But while the risk for the vaccinated clearly goes down, for the unvaccinated it may go up. This is especially true if it is in crowded indoor spaces - a bar, an airplane, a crowded work space, a concert.
 
If I'm right, hopefully the people who choose to stay unvaccinated are ones that are younger or healthier and feel they're not really taking a big risk anyway. If the bet pays off - they get COVID, and sail through it - it actually moves us closer to herd immunity. The people who could really pay for this are the ones who are unvaccinated and older or less healthy. The pressure will be on them to stay masked, or get the jab.
 
Pollster Frank Luntz was just on the Daily Show and he said his polling shows three apolitical messages that are effective in persuading the vaccine hesitant: 1) Listen to your doctor, who knows what it good for your health. 2) 9 out of 10 doctors have been vaccinated. What do they know that you don't? 3) Do it for your loved ones. Those are all good statements.

I agree with what you have written here but would add that each individual has to consider their own vulnerabilities to serious outcomes from acquiring the disease, whether vaccinated or not. From the beginning it has been the case that people with certain co-morbidities would be likelier to get seriously ill or die while healthier individuals stood a better chance of only experiencing a mild cold-like illness resulting from infection from the virus.
 
Nothing is guaranteed however, no matter what your situation, but the vaccines at least add another layer of protection to help your immune system to ward off the worst outcomes. The other strategies such as wearing masks when it is difficult to distance and avoiding crowded indoor venues still apply however. I think the US has gone too far too fast with easing these restrictions. Time will tell.

I think the CDC made the right call, though I also kinda hope masking becomes more "normal" generally. It's quite common in Asia and some other places to mask on public transit and other crowded spaces, especially during flu/cold season. I think I'll continue to do the same...wear a mask on trains, planes, ubers and probably in like busy grocery stores and shopping malls. I probably won't at bars and restaurants just because a big part of that experience is eating and drinking. I do think the risk in those settings is still pretty high for respiratory infections, but you also have to live your life to some extent.
 
But I have stopped wearing masks outside basically ever since I got vaccinated and not sure if ever made a ton of sense to mask outside unless you were in very crowded areas. There was just never any evidence of infection from someone passing you on the sidewalk.
 
Be cautious when you can but don't be paranoid/anxious about getting COVID or sick generally. My sister has had a really hard time with COVID and it's sad to see people get into these cycles of anxiety over getting sick. We're animals and that's something that can't be avoided entirely. We're also social creatures so those of us who've been responsible and taken the vaccine should feel free to live their lives as normally as possible now.

maybe it's time to define "erotic massage" vs sensual. I know for providers their views are highly different! As a result there are varied expectations. I've had erotic sessions that were purely nude, MT, HE and others that were more... fully interactive.

I love reading these. Thanks guys

I think discussing charges for “extras” during the massage is awkward. I don’t charge for anything extra, it’s all included in my standard massage rate (which Isn’t cheap) except for me bottoming and if they want that it has to be agreed before the massage, and the rate for that is extra.
 
Because there’s no extra charge or any cause to discuss the charge during the massage it can proceed naturally, uninterrupted and it feels less transactional for the client.
 
I once had a spa massage where the masseur tried to upsell to me during the massage. I’d already paid for the massage at the spa desk. Half way through the massage I could feel through his shorts that his cock was hard as it pressed against my hand while he leant over the table. I was laying on my front with a towel over my bum so he couldn’t see whether I was hard or not.
 
He said to me “I can do relief for you, I get naked and wank you, it’s just £50 extra”. I was quite surprised because this was a high end spa. He was hot but I didn’t want a happy ending as my boyfriend at the time was staying at the spa with me and we’d been having sex all afternoon. I just wanted the relaxing massage. So I said no thanks, which seemed to annoy him. He said “ok just £40, you can get the cash now”. I really didn’t want to get off the table to go and get cash so I said “no thanks I’m fine” again. He then said “ok how much?” which really surprised me because now he was in negotiating mode and the price wasn’t my issue.
 
If he hadn’t been so insistent about it I might have agreed (although the requirement to get cash to pay him during the massage really pissed me off). So I just said to him “no I’m not looking for extras, sorry”.
 
Unfortunately he seemed to take this personally and the massage became much less attentive. I felt in a mischievous mood so when he asked me to turn over I made sure I was hard under the towel to see what he’d do. If he’d have removed the towel, and his shorts and given me a happy ending then I’d have paid him the extra money afterwards but he didn’t go near my hard on atall. He just avoided the area completely and finished the massage in a perfunctory style.
 
It was a shame because he was hot and, up to the point of the upsell discussion, he’d done a great massage. I had no problem with him cashing in on the side but he was doing it in a really poor way that was confrontational and inconvenient.
 
I gave him a good rating afterwards though because it was a nice massage and I’m sure he’d have been hot to play with. He just should have been more subtle and trusting to accept cash afterwards.

Regardless of if you discuss more payments or not, you should definitely pay more if you are getting more.
 
Often times guys on these forms complain that it “kills the mood” to discuss further payment. Yet a ton of y’all want more than a massage.
 
Masseurs, no doubt, pick up on these two things as well, which give of mixed signals. This puts them in a position Where they have to gamble. Perhaps they do more and get a tip, or perhaps they do more, and don’t get compensated. (Based on the posts in the thread so far, y’all are celebrating the latter)
 
So, when a client wants more, and the masseur doesnt want to “kill the mood” and doesn’t secure a tip, It ultimately ruins it for the rest of us who acknowledge that it’s work and who do tip.

Love that view. I used to love eating there back when I spent my winters in Florida. It had such a nice vibe.

Things are more civilized in the old world. We’re still roughing it here in the new world.

I sometimes wonder how much prep goes into anal scenes. I’ve never asked those who have done porn but I imagine some pre-loading of lube may be resorted to when the top is not seen lubing his dick and only spits on the winking hole. As you say, adds to the “ambience”.

Actually I think 30 to 45 minutes of "fun" is really quite a lot. If by fun you mean actual physical contact. If it's only a 1 hour appointment that in fact is perfect, at least for me. Leaves a little time for cuddling.
 
If you are talking about a 2 hour session or longer, you need to pace things out unless he is a multiple cummer, which of course is divine.

It just depends on the market you’re in. I know that in a place like Miam I’m a sore thumb compared to all the pretty manicured smooth muscle Boys, because I’m beefy and hairy vs a place like Texas I have more of an a vantage with a rugged look. Everyone has different tastes at the end of the day, just be yourself. Most clients do look for tops tho, just putting it out there. Again though everyone’s different and all looking for different things so just be open. Also some advice, always perform as if you’re performing for the first time with each client. They’re taking their time to see you, so give it your all. Cause a pretty face won’t get you far if you’re not putting in the work. Good luck... and welcome. ?

I love to deep-kiss a guy after I rim him. The thought that he is tasting his own ass in my mouth is simply exhilarating ?

Actually I think 30 to 45 minutes of "fun" is really quite a lot. If by fun you mean actual physical contact. If it's only a 1 hour appointment that in fact is perfect, at least for me. Leaves a little time for cuddling.
 
If you are talking about a 2 hour session or longer, you need to pace things out unless he is a multiple cummer, which of course is divine.

Is this the gay equivalent to 'BUT SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE BLACK!' (I kid, I kid)
 
Yes, gay men can be out, proud and masculine. It's not the Will & Grace stereotype, but it's more than possible.
 
The problem is that some people on this thread see just the stereotype as the norm and can't think in multiple shades of gay.

Actually I think 30 to 45 minutes of "fun" is really quite a lot. If by fun you mean actual physical contact. If it's only a 1 hour appointment that in fact is perfect, at least for me. Leaves a little time for cuddling.
 
If you are talking about a 2 hour session or longer, you need to pace things out unless he is a multiple cummer, which of course is divine.

Actually I think 30 to 45 minutes of "fun" is really quite a lot. If by fun you mean actual physical contact. If it's only a 1 hour appointment that in fact is perfect, at least for me. Leaves a little time for cuddling.
 
If you are talking about a 2 hour session or longer, you need to pace things out unless he is a multiple cummer, which of course is divine.

I totally understand your POV. I’m perhaps in the minority of clients in that I live in a small town a couple of hours away from either Montreal or Toronto, which is where I see most of my escorts apart from those I invite for an overnight or weekend to my home.
 
Thus the escorts know because I tell them in advance, which hotel I am booked into and I do stay in touch prior to the date to let them know I am very much looking forward to seeing them. I’m certain that’s why I have never been stood up by an escort.

I have to agree that awarding stars to both old and new recipients for a dining experience that has been largely absent for the last 14 months is meaningless. Michelin should have just announced that they would wait until 2022 to restart the process.
 
I can’t see the situation being any different in France. I wonder what they have done there.

I have to agree that awarding stars to both old and new recipients for a dining experience that has been largely absent for the last 14 months is meaningless. Michelin should have just announced that they would wait until 2022 to restart the process.
 
I can’t see the situation being any different in France. I wonder what they have done there.

I agree, but while I was down there this winter I read in the papers that the city wants to rip out all the trees in the middle of the Blvd. in order to widen the street. To me, the trees are what makes it beautiful.

I can see where the escort is coming from but he shouldn't have said it like that. Let's say it's Noon day of appt and your session is for 7pm. He gets a text from someone else asking if he's free that evening at 7pm and before he tells that guy no I'm booked he asked you if you two were still on for that evening. But he shouldn't have said hey are we still on because if not I got other clients waiting. All he should have said was just hi, good afternoon, just wanna make sure everything is still a go for this evening.

I didn't get the same vibe as you about him being nice and down to earth. He states "To be clear, I'm not here to ******* you". Is this nice?
 
Other parts of his ad are also off-putting such as requesting a pic of the client. He states, "I don't care what you look like but please send your pics". Collectively, they seem to say "I'm very special and you better be too".
 
Of course, since I am a bottom like him, I have no interest in his services but even if I was a top I wouldn't be attracted to what he is offering.

If I'm in Dania Beach, I'll typically grab a car. No parking and it gave me the ability to hit other locations outside of FLL easily such as Adventura, Haulover Beach (nude beach), or to just head down south to MIA. Dania Beach hotels are literally off of I-95 (Griffin Road or Stirling Road). Free parking, easy access to the cruise terminal, lots of food options nearby. Firebirds is a decent mid-tier restaurant that is not crazy expensive with good food and friendly people.
 
Even if you did not have a car, it's literally a 10 minute Uber ride to Wilton Manor.

His ad says "there's a difference between discrete and anonymous". Someone should tell him there's a difference between discrete and discreet. lol