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While I don't claim to have any particular expertise, my impression has always been that the actual words passed into law by Congress matter much more than what individual members of Congress say they are intending to do by passing said law. So I don’t think the fact that Senators highlight sex trafficking victims during the floor debate and don’t say much about gay people means very much. The words in the law clearly apply to everyone, including gay people, and they also clearly apply to non-sex-trafficking situations, and that’s what matters.
 
I suppose Schumer’s comments might come into play if someone were to advance a very broad theory of what “promote” means, such as trying to argue that nonprofits that have webpages and provide STD testing are indirectly “promoting” prostitution. The word "promote" might be considered ambiguous, and Schumer's statement might help in interpreting the meaning of the term in that kind of situation. But I don’t see anything here that would make RM any less liable than it otherwise might be.

I’m sorry to see you leaving and wish you the best in the move and with your new treatment.
 
Incidentally, I was just checking out the ads in Dallas and saw lots of folks visiting there from here (plus I believe that AndrewK is also in the midst of moving there), so if you get a hankering for a “taste” of the PNW, you’ll have lots of options

My 3 cents...@Kevin Slater is correct. Keep expectations low, and don't count on group gatherings from specials groups. On my last cruise, the daily flyer for the LGBT meet up in the library said, 5pm meeting with "Friends of Dorothy" (I thought that was cute)
At any rate, the crew is strictly prohibited from fraternizing with the passengers, and interacting with other passengers in close quarters like a ship could be problematic, not impossible, but unlikely.
 
Also...depending on where you are cruising to, I would be careful spending too much time trying to hook up on shore. In many ports-of-call it is necessary to keep your wits about you and your guard up. As a tourist, you are a natural target.
 
Since this is your first cruise, I would just go to enjoy yourself and to take in the whole experience of cruising. Go to see the sights and leave it at that.
 
Good Luck...

In 2017, it was Erick, during his visit to Seattle, though I believe he goes by Eddie now and lives in New York: https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/erick27.shtml Just a lot of chemistry for a massage

I remain a big fan of @Andrew Maroc, although I was only able to see him twice this year. https://rent.men/AndrewMaroc I think he and Mike Gaite are the most professional and consistently, reliably excellent companions I have had the privilege of spending time with over the last few years.

As usual, the escort’s response although simple is more damning than the review. A review I might add by frequent and respected poster @Keith30309

I prefer the terms “sex work” and “sex worker” to “prostitution” and “prostitute” because I think the latter tend to be used more pejoratively and have a generally negative connotation in our culture. In contrast, recognizing that individuals who provide this service are engaged in “work” just like other professional service providers, attempts to reduce the unfortunate stigma that is often associated with those who trade sex for money.
 
The term “escort,” in contrast, refers to someone who provides companionship (not sex) for a fee. This distinction is legally important because sex work is currently a crime in most jurisdictions, whereas simply spending time with someone is not. Of course, some people argue that if sex “just happens” to occur during that time, after which a “donation” is freely offered, that this technically does not transform the situation from “escorting” to “prostitution.” Personally, I am skeptical about this view, but I believe it is widely held. I could speculate that if this is the situation you’re describing, that your companion’s aversion to the term “sex worker” could stem from a desire to maintain a sense of ambiguity about what is actually going on. Of course, I have no idea what may have transpired, so this is all speculation. Anyway, here are some other posts about the difference between escorting and sex work:
 
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/alex-dreamlover-im-not-a-prostitute-im-an-escort.130455/page-2#post-1399800 (post 26)
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/sentencing-of-jeffrey-hurant-rentboy-com-on-friday.126472/page-2#post-1325257 (post 27)

I prefer the terms “sex work” and “sex worker” to “prostitution” and “prostitute” because I think the latter tend to be used more pejoratively and have a generally negative connotation in our culture. In contrast, recognizing that individuals who provide this service are engaged in “work” just like other professional service providers, attempts to reduce the unfortunate stigma that is often associated with those who trade sex for money.
 
The term “escort,” in contrast, refers to someone who provides companionship (not sex) for a fee. This distinction is legally important because sex work is currently a crime in most jurisdictions, whereas simply spending time with someone is not. Of course, some people argue that if sex “just happens” to occur during that time, after which a “donation” is freely offered, that this technically does not transform the situation from “escorting” to “prostitution.” Personally, I am skeptical about this view, but I believe it is widely held. I could speculate that if this is the situation you’re describing, that your companion’s aversion to the term “sex worker” could stem from a desire to maintain a sense of ambiguity about what is actually going on. Of course, I have no idea what may have transpired, so this is all speculation. Anyway, here are some other posts about the difference between escorting and sex work:
 
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/alex-dreamlover-im-not-a-prostitute-im-an-escort.130455/page-2#post-1399800 (post 26)
https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/sentencing-of-jeffrey-hurant-rentboy-com-on-friday.126472/page-2#post-1325257 (post 27)

"Escort" and "client" are perfectly serviceable expressions.

Well, you know me.... I give a Licking, AND keep on ticking ! Got a fucking event to Plan !!!!!!! :D

Danny and Deron are my absolute faves
 
What are you looking for?

Honestly, settle down.
 
He was asking for feedback, not a fist.

It’s 2018 and there’s lots of new Forum members since the above was posted.
 
A gentle reminder to be mindful of opportunities to support the community.

One should be particularly careful if staying in a hotel in the City of Seattle. We have a new law, intended to address the problem of sexual harassment of hotel staff by guests, which requires hotels to create a “blacklist” of guests when hotel workers accuse them of sexual harassment. The law further requires hotels to share the names of guests so accused with the city and with other hotel workers and to deny them lodging for the next three years. One wouldn’t want to misperceive interest by the bellboy, make a pass, and end up on the blacklist. Also, no police report need be filed and there is no mechanism to challenge the allegations, so even if the bellboy is clearly coming onto you, it could just be a set-up for blackmail.
 
Incidentally, the law has been challenged in court, but so far, it has been upheld. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/hotel-trade-groups-sue-over-seattle-initiative-that-gives-new-rights-to-workers/

Why would you want to go to Palm Springs or PV when the sun is shining like it is today?
 
One of them confirmed it was for the IBC.
 
GMAN

While all that’s true , the weather here in late March is likely to be overcast, drizzly, and in the 40’s to 50’s F. I’d guess it’s gray and overcast about 2/3 of the time in March. There are occasional “sunbreaks,” as we call them, where you can see the Olympics and Cascades and Mt. Rainier (“the Mountain”), etc., but if you want to do stuff outside, you should definitely bring a light rain jacket. Like DC, we have a large number of cherry trees, and they're all over the city (a former Japanese Prime Minister went to school here), but especially at the “Quad” on the University of Washington campus, and late March is typically when they’re in full bloom.

Welcome to the forum, Kyle. There are a lot of guys in your situation.
 

 
It’s more problematic than that. Kids need their father, and few women are going to tolerate your going out and worshipping muscle when the kid is asking to play with daddy. Plus, if your desires turn sexual, that will make things even harder.
 
Why do you want a wife and kids? Is it a strong drive or something you feel you should do?

Happy Birthday Mike! You were the first person to “engage me in conversation” via PM after I joined the forum, and I have always appreciated the kindness, wisdom, and humor in your posts. I hope you have a fabulous day

I don’t know if I am one of the “popular” kids around here, but I do have more "likes" than messages, for whatever that’s worth. For me, I think it was helpful to poke around these forums for awhile (several months as I recall) before I became a member or started asking questions—to get a feel for the place, to see what kind of things led to threads being shut down or people being placed on time-out, etc. When people took my questions on tangents, I mostly went along for the ride, and if people were overly sensitive or hostile, I tried not to take the bait and avoided get into pointless shouting matches via my keyboard. I don’t ask questions or comment as much as I used to, but I still check the forum regularly, and appreciate all the helpful information it provides. While we have not always agreed, I certainly appreciate your contributions, @Tarte Gogo, and think this thread is a very good idea.
 
*One other thought, if a newbie finds this forum valuable, he/she may consider making a donation to help keep this place running. I don’t know if that leads to more “popularity” or people taking a contributor’s questions more seriously, but I see this place as a rather unique little community, and I appreciate those who support it as they are able, as I try to do (will be sending in my annual contribution later today in fact).

I don’t know if I am one of the “popular” kids around here, but I do have more "likes" than messages, for whatever that’s worth. For me, I think it was helpful to poke around these forums for awhile (several months as I recall) before I became a member or started asking questions—to get a feel for the place, to see what kind of things led to threads being shut down or people being placed on time-out, etc. When people took my questions on tangents, I mostly went along for the ride, and if people were overly sensitive or hostile, I tried not to take the bait and avoided get into pointless shouting matches via my keyboard. I don’t ask questions or comment as much as I used to, but I still check the forum regularly, and appreciate all the helpful information it provides. While we have not always agreed, I certainly appreciate your contributions, @Tarte Gogo, and think this thread is a very good idea.
 
*One other thought, if a newbie finds this forum valuable, he/she may consider making a donation to help keep this place running. I don’t know if that leads to more “popularity” or people taking a contributor’s questions more seriously, but I see this place as a rather unique little community, and I appreciate those who support it as they are able, as I try to do (will be sending in my annual contribution later today in fact).

I don’t know if I am one of the “popular” kids around here, but I do have more "likes" than messages, for whatever that’s worth. For me, I think it was helpful to poke around these forums for awhile (several months as I recall) before I became a member or started asking questions—to get a feel for the place, to see what kind of things led to threads being shut down or people being placed on time-out, etc. When people took my questions on tangents, I mostly went along for the ride, and if people were overly sensitive or hostile, I tried not to take the bait and avoided get into pointless shouting matches via my keyboard. I don’t ask questions or comment as much as I used to, but I still check the forum regularly, and appreciate all the helpful information it provides. While we have not always agreed, I certainly appreciate your contributions, @Tarte Gogo, and think this thread is a very good idea.
 
*One other thought, if a newbie finds this forum valuable, he/she may consider making a donation to help keep this place running. I don’t know if that leads to more “popularity” or people taking a contributor’s questions more seriously, but I see this place as a rather unique little community, and I appreciate those who support it as they are able, as I try to do (will be sending in my annual contribution later today in fact).

OK, so I personally found a lot of happiness via rentboy. RIP. I am sure a lot of the forum members kept an eye on the take down and trial.
 
Anyway, the founder is in a federal facility for 6 months. It might make him happy to get some mail from people. Here is his mailing address:
 
Jeffrey Hurant 86208-053
FCI Otisville
PO Box 1000
Otisville, NY 10963
 
From what I understand (which could be all wrong) when writing a letter to a person in prison:
 
Use only white paper, no colored paper or greeting cards (those can get returned under the guards discretion) and no perfume, stickers, anything like that.
Include his full mailing address on the note. Sometimes the envelopes get scrapped, or damaged, so include your return address info on it if you want him to have a record that you reached out.
Include a full return name and address on the envelope or it will get discarded without opening.
Rules seem to conflict about enclosing things; it seems like up to 5 pages of paper is ok, as are pictures that are enclosed or included int he note. No dirty pictures. Everything else will be considered contraband and discarded.
 
I think you can also send softcover books and magazines, which I think might be a great thing to do.

Sorry, I can’t help at all.
 
As a rule I don’t mess around in Muslim countries.
 
From Wikipedia:
 
LGBT rights in Qatar
 
“Since 2004, Article 296 of the current Penal Code (Law 11/2004)[2] stipulate imprisonment between 1 and 3 years for sodomy between men. This is a slight revision of the original law that stipulated up to five years imprisonment for male homosexuality.
 
In 1995 an American citizen visiting Qatar was sentenced to six months in shabab markeah and 420 lashes for homosexual activity.[3] In the 1990s, Philippine Overseas Employment Administration informed Philippine workers that gay workers were prohibited in Qatar. This was in response to several mass arrests and deportations of Philippine workers in Qatar, for homosexuality.[4]
 
The Qatari penal code also contains additional criminal sanctions for adultery, fornication and any speech or conduct that is judged to be disorderly, immoral or likely to offend traditional religious mores.
 
These laws give Qatari police considerable leeway to jail or fine LGBT people, in light of the fact that Islam is the official religion and a important source for Qatari law“
 
I wish you luck but be careful.

As one of those who see the new day start ahead of the US, allow me.
 
Happy Birthday, Fresh Fluff!! May the day bring you everything you wish for yourself!

In 2017, it was Erick, during his visit to Seattle, though I believe he goes by Eddie now and lives in New York: https://www.masseurfinder.com/members/erick27.shtml Just a lot of chemistry for a massage