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2 hours ago, Rudynate said:

I read not long ago that there is new data that suggests that second-hand smoke exposure is not nearly as hazardous as was once thought.

I suppose that was supported by the tobacco lobby. Lol

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4 hours ago, Charlie said:

When I was a college student, one of my professors chain-smoked cigars in class. One time, W.H. Auden was invited to a class; he smoked his own terrible-smelling hand-rolled cigarettes while he spoke. When I started teaching, there was still an ashtray attached to the lectern in case the professor wanted to smoke while lecturing, which some of my colleagues did.

I missed the first walk on the moon--I was down in the "meat rack" on Fire Island having fun that night.

Oh well, you just missed the most signifiant thing to happen to humanity in the 20th century. Just to satisfy your carnal desires. Callow youth.

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On 2/15/2021 at 11:04 PM, bashful said:

 

Kresge's (in Detroit) had the same counters. Used to get a Coke served in a paper cone in a metal holder, crushed ice, paper straw, and don't know for sure, but maybe made with syrup and soda water.

I always preferred the grape drink at Kresge's. That and the butter fried hotdogs were a huge treat when I was a kid. 

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11 hours ago, Rudynate said:

I read not long ago that there is new data that suggests that second-hand smoke exposure is not nearly as hazardous as was once thought.

Where did you read that? I read studies years ago in the Journal of the American Medical Association in which they compared the healthcare utilization, particularly with respect to respiratory ailments, in workers from restaurants, bars, etc., in states that banned indoor smoking versus those that hadn't. The states that banned indoor smoking showed a large drop in both use of respiratory medications and in hospitalizations and deaths for respiratory problems. The states that didn't have such a ban, of course, didn't show the drop. 

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17 hours ago, Charlie said:

When I was a college student, one of my professors chain-smoked cigars in class. One time, W.H. Auden was invited to a class; he smoked his own terrible-smelling hand-rolled cigarettes while he spoke. When I started teaching, there was still an ashtray attached to the lectern in case the professor wanted to smoke while lecturing, which some of my colleagues did.

I missed the first walk on the moon--I was down in the "meat rack" on Fire Island having fun that night.

Was that Thurman Philoon by any chance?

Re the moon landing, we watched it on vacation in Beach Haven NJ on a B&W TV.

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Vague early memories:

My parents had an apartment in Narberth PA, on the Main Line. The landlord’s name was Abel. I remember being chastised for trying to eat a piece of butter. Maybe 2? I also remember my 2nd or 3rd birthday party. We were wearing those conical hats. I clearly remember arriving at our first house just after I’d turned 3. I was sitting in the front cab of the moving truck with my father. Finally, I remember getting anesthesia at Chestnut Hill Hospital when I had a hernia repair at the age of 4. The nurse asked me if my mommy drank coffee. I said yes. Then she asked me if I’d like some, and I said sure. She then placed the ether cone over my face. I remember being happy during puberty when hair covered that scar!

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6 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Where did you read that? I read studies years ago in the Journal of the American Medical Association in which they compared the healthcare utilization, particularly with respect to respiratory ailments, in workers from restaurants, bars, etc., in states that banned indoor smoking versus those that hadn't. The states that banned indoor smoking showed a large drop in both use of respiratory medications and in hospitalizations and deaths for respiratory problems. The states that didn't have such a ban, of course, didn't show the drop. 

Don't remember - something I read recently - I was surprised to read it.  Even if it's true - it wont change anything.  The majority of adults in the US don't smoke.  They are not about to go back to workplaces, restaurants and movie theaters that are filled with cigarette smoke.

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4 hours ago, Pensant said:

Was that Thurman Philoon by any chance?

Re the moon landing, we watched it on vacation in Beach Haven NJ on a B&W TV.

I had forgotten about him, but I now remember that he did it also; I was thinking of Wolf von Wernsdorff (who, rumor had it, had all male "parties" at his house--I was never invited).

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The most impressive technology in a business office was an IBM Selectric typewriter. At home, I was still using my father's big Underwood manual, which he got after my grandfather closed his office during the Depression. Putting in a new print ribbon was always tricky.

Turn signals were an available option on new cars, so you didn't have to stick your left arm out the window to signal which direction you intended to turn. I remember my uncle showing off the turn signals on his new 1950 Plymouth, to my father, who did not have them on his 1947 Pontiac--both popular auto brands that had disappeared by the end of the century.

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3 hours ago, Rudynate said:

Don't remember - something I read recently - I was surprised to read it....

Sources of information are very important. It obviously matters whether the information comes from a reputable peer-reviewed journal or a right-wing rag. 

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On 4/21/2022 at 1:14 PM, Charlie said:

When I was a college student, one of my professors chain-smoked cigars in class. One time, W.H. Auden was invited to a class; he smoked his own terrible-smelling hand-rolled cigarettes while he spoke. When I started teaching, there was still an ashtray attached to the lectern in case the professor wanted to smoke while lecturing, which some of my colleagues did.

I missed the first walk on the moon--I was down in the "meat rack" on Fire Island having fun that night.

I was visiting Reno, Nevada on July 20, 1969 for the first walk on the moon. It was my birthday (July 20), I watched on all the televisions in the casinos rather than gamble. So glad I saw it, even it meant not really enjoying Nevada. Historic experience.

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7 hours ago, Charlie said:

The most impressive technology in a business office was an IBM Selectric typewriter. At home, I was still using my father's big Underwood manual, which he got after my grandfather closed his office during the Depression. Putting in a new print ribbon was always tricky.

Turn signals were an available option on new cars, so you didn't have to stick your left arm out the window to signal which direction you intended to turn. I remember my uncle showing off the turn signals on his new 1950 Plymouth, to my father, who did not have them on his 1947 Pontiac--both popular auto brands that had disappeared by the end of the century.

When I was young, I was impressed by the odd English cars that were driven in Montreal (rare because the harsh climate wasn't kind to English cars at that time) because they had yellow/orange turn signals that popped out of the side of the car between the door posts to signal a right or left turn. I think they were lit so you could see them at night too. I'm sure in the winter they probably froze in place with the ice. But they worked fine in the summer.

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3 hours ago, Luv2play said:

When I was young, I was impressed by the odd English cars that were driven in Montreal (rare because the harsh climate wasn't kind to English cars at that time) because they had yellow/orange turn signals that popped out of the side of the car between the door posts to signal a right or left turn. I think they were lit so you could see them at night too. I'm sure in the winter they probably froze in place with the ice. But they worked fine in the summer.

I had forgotten about those things. I rarely saw English cars in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, except for sports cars like MGs and Austin Healeys, and the occasional Jaguar. A girlfriend of mine bought a new 1965 Austin Healey, and I drove us from Philly to Boston for her twin sister's wedding. The young people at the wedding thought we were really cool, but I hated driving that thing for any length of time.

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12 hours ago, Charlie said:

I had forgotten about those things. I rarely saw English cars in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, except for sports cars like MGs and Austin Healeys, and the occasional Jaguar. A girlfriend of mine bought a new 1965 Austin Healey, and I drove us from Philly to Boston for her twin sister's wedding. The young people at the wedding thought we were really cool, but I hated driving that thing for any length of time.

A friend of my brother had a 61 or 60 Austin Healey Le Mans which you could only tell from its aluminium body and louvres on the hood. It was fun for short runs but I can imagine not on long road trips. 

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On 4/22/2022 at 10:00 AM, Unicorn said:

Sources of information are very important. It obviously matters whether the information comes from a reputable peer-reviewed journal or a right-wing rag. 

Of course they are important.   But since I have other things to think about, I didn't write the cite down for you.  I believe it was an article on a general-readership web site that was referring to an article in a scientific publication.

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12 minutes ago, Charlie said:

She was the only woman in the Senate at that time, but she was not the first.

Smith was the only woman in the Senate of the hundred Senators in 1970. And the only woman who ever served in The US House of Representatives and The Senate at that point.

After she voted, Smith  sat at her desk in the Senate and briefly read her mail before leaving.

Note: I never wrote that she was the first female Senator. Clearly at least one woman and probably more  took her husband's seat when he died.

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4 hours ago, WilliamM said:

Smith was the only woman in the Senate of the hundred Senators in 1970. And the only woman who ever served in The US House of Representatives and The Senate at that point.

After she voted, Smith  sat at her desk in the Senate and briefly read her mail before leaving.

Note: I never wrote that she was the first female Senator. Clearly at least one woman and probably more  took her husband's seat when he died.

I know you didn't say she was the first; I was only pointing out that despite there having been other women before her, in 1970 she was still the sole woman in the Senate.

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22 hours ago, Charlie said:

I know you didn't say she was the first; I was only pointing out that despite there having been other women before her, in 1970 she was still the sole woman in the Senate.

Jesus H. Christ.

I was born in 1943 and grew up in Massachusetts. I am well aware that Mrs Smith was not the first Female Senator in the Senate.

I remember watching the 1952 Republican National Convention on television on my own. My parents were not interested.

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