RandyVue Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Are your favorite clients, the guys who tip the best or the guys you like personality wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm4U Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) To be honest, yes. I have 3 favorite clients and a big portion of the reasoning is because they are wonderfully generous ...but that’s not all. They also are wonderful in other ways. If they were not good guys then they wouldn’t be my favorites even when I consider what they pay me. So in short, it’s a combination. Edited June 19, 2021 by Storm4U + keroscenefire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoleTrainer Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Definitely both. Personality is important, AND a client who genuinely wants to please me will generally understand that I am here, at least in significant part, for the money, and demonstrate generosity accordingly. Not everyone can afford to tip hundreds, but all my favorite clients definitely tip something and some of them buy me gifts as well. Personally, my parents were extremely stingy with me to the point of neglect, so my buttons get deeply pressed in a very good way by generosity. But of course personality also matters. Most guys who choose to voluntarily give me cash or gifts have great personalities tho. Generosity is a very sexy quality. Jarrod_Uncut, coriolis888 and + DynamicUno 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalTec Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 For me it's personality. If we both hit it off, I dont even think about a tip. That always sorts itself out if we are both genuinely enjoying ourselves. And from a repeat business POV, it translates to that client becoming a regular. Luv2play, thomas, lonely_john and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfCompanion Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 A tip is something very nice and it shows the client really enjoyed our time together, at least it is what I think. It does not mean that the clients who do not tip do not enjoy the time together. However, the favorites clients are going to be the ones who are very sweet, kind, understanding, and the ones who care about the provider also having a great time. thomas, marylander1940 and Jarrod_Uncut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianboyph Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Both. Personality goes a long way at the end of the day, so when you click with someone it’s always a plus. Also tipping is nice too, because not everyone does it! thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 It’s the personality. I enjoy all my clients but those where we really click are the most enjoyable. I’d rather see a client where we click than a client who is difficult but who leaves a big tip (although I guess it depends how big the tip is !!!) thomas, Jarrod_Uncut, + DynamicUno and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) You have to free yourself from the expectation, or even hope, of a tip, otherwise you will feel slighted and second guess yourself and your sessions. Edited July 1, 2021 by Rod Hagen Becket, sjmuktop, SoCalGuy1000 and 8 others 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Lucky Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Well, I guess I have to hope that the provider likes me. Rates have gone so high these days that adding a tip is a stretch for me. maninsoma, Frankcal, thomas and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Rod Hagen said: You have to free yourself from the expectation, or even hope, of a tip, otherwise you will feel slighted and second guess yourself and your sessions. With the caveat that I live in a society where tipping is not the norm, I have the view that an escort sets their rate and that's what I expect to pay. I see a tip as something that I pay if I think they are charging below the going rate for the market, or if they astound me with the experience. CastaDiva, big-n-tall, jeezifonly and 8 others 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, mike carey said: With the caveat that I live in a society where tipping is not the norm, I have the view that an escort sets their rate and that's what I expect to pay. I see a tip as something that I pay if I think they are charging below the going rate for the market, or if they astound me with the experience. I expect Rod could do the latter!!! Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, mike carey said: With the caveat that I live in a society where tipping is not the norm, I have the view that an escort sets their rate and that's what I expect to pay. I see a tip as something that I pay if I think they are charging below the going rate for the market, or if they astound me with the experience. I agree. Also, I don't think tipping escorts is the norm in the US, either. In the US, servers are tipped because their salary is usually minimum wage, and they're expected to earn most of their living from tips. In some states, employers can pay their servers even less than minimum wage, with the thought that it's impossible for the server not to make the minimum wage if the service is even barely acceptable. Escorts set their own wages--which is far above minimum wage (and that's assuming they pay taxes on those wages). Of course, in Los Angeles, the minimum wage is $15/hour. Probably not quite livable, but decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 The real goal here is to have a suitable rate to satisfy not ever needing a tip. + jrhoutex, + keroscenefire, MaxMuscle9x6 and 11 others 8 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawshini Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said: The real goal here is to have a suitable rate to satisfy not ever needing a tip. ^^More of these please, in all industries.^^ Let’s get wages to a place where tipping is a thing of the past. Marc in Calif, Luv2play and Philoxera 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 A tip should be a thanks for absolutely fantastic service not to make up for lack of fair basic pay. It some industries and places it seems to have developed into compensation for poor pay and hasn’t much to do with whether the service went beyond all expectations. Also I think there’s a misconception that escorts make loads of money because their hourly rate is high. Take into consideration that it’s not practically possible to work 45 hours a week 50 weeks a year doing escort work and the hourly rate comes down. Yes some days you make a lot, but some days it’s zero. If you get sick or catch something you’re out of action for at least a week. You have to keep a place to work, keep fit, advertise etc so there’s overheads too. Don’t assume that because you paid £200 for an hour that that’s what he gets every hour every day. Jarrod_Uncut, CalTec, Luv2play and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ keroscenefire Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 22 hours ago, Jamie21 said: A tip should be a thanks for absolutely fantastic service not to make up for lack of fair basic pay. It some industries and places it seems to have developed into compensation for poor pay and hasn’t much to do with whether the service went beyond all expectations. Also I think there’s a misconception that escorts make loads of money because their hourly rate is high. Take into consideration that it’s not practically possible to work 45 hours a week 50 weeks a year doing escort work and the hourly rate comes down. Yes some days you make a lot, but some days it’s zero. If you get sick or catch something you’re out of action for at least a week. You have to keep a place to work, keep fit, advertise etc so there’s overheads too. Don’t assume that because you paid £200 for an hour that that’s what he gets every hour every day. If you divide $200/8=$25 an hour. That's an okay job, like $48K a year, but that's like lower middle class at best. So yeah I definitely appreciate that a lot of professional guys are basically doing okay even if they are fairly busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 9:44 PM, keroscenefire said: If you divide $200/8=$25 an hour. That's an okay job, like $48K a year, but that's like lower middle class at best. So yeah I definitely appreciate that a lot of professional guys are basically doing okay even if they are fairly busy. Add to this to that, most of us live in such ludicrously expensive cities. Oh well. Life isn't fun if it isn't a challenge. SoCalGuy1000, + keroscenefire, Jarrod_Uncut and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 For this client, Rate posted is a starting point. I figure paying that rate gets me respect, kindness and physical access - consensual, and within boundaries set ahead of meeting. It’s like the basic car wash.. Now… Making me feel that he’s enjoying our activities, that gets him a bump. Reading our exchange accurately and instinctively, guiding the play to something new for one of us?Premium Wash with additional rinse! Another bump. Exceptional hosting ability (cleanliness of self and environment, punctuality, having a private and conducive space with appropriate ambience, bottled water available, etc) Yup, another bump. Hot wax! I reward efforts of preparation, connection, and imagination. Hand polish and buff. Bump. And if he knows how detail my rims, well… HoleTrainer, ekoile, Jarrod_Uncut and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 7/2/2021 at 1:40 AM, Jamie21 said: A tip should be a thanks for absolutely fantastic service not to make up for lack of fair basic pay. It some industries and places it seems to have developed into compensation for poor pay and hasn’t much to do with whether the service went beyond all expectations. Also I think there’s a misconception that escorts make loads of money because their hourly rate is high. Take into consideration that it’s not practically possible to work 45 hours a week 50 weeks a year doing escort work and the hourly rate comes down. Yes some days you make a lot, but some days it’s zero. If you get sick or catch something you’re out of action for at least a week. You have to keep a place to work, keep fit, advertise etc so there’s overheads too. Don’t assume that because you paid £200 for an hour that that’s what he gets every hour every day. Thankyou! Nailed it. Like @Benjamin_Nicholassaid, it is good to strive to get to a place where your rate is sufficient enough to not “hang around” for tips. HOWEVER, I have clients who tip all the time. I don’t put down those who don’t, but I also don’t expect it. I just let it happen. My thing is: I once worked in a trust bank and would file accounts. When I seen the amount of money these people had in their account, it’s not going to hurt them to pass over an extra $50-$100. Heck, an extra $5,000 wouldn’t hurt some, but…gay (especially non-White) male escorts have been getting paid far less as escorts than White female escorts for a long time. Once I’m making White woman money, then I can say no to a tip lol. But I don’t even consider it a “tip”. I consider it a contribution to an independent person who’s in biz. And I’m immensely grateful. It may not be $5,000…but hell, this past week I’ve had 2 guys giving 300-400 per session, and adding extra. I used to go week by week taking 100 and 150 sessions, and just profiting nothing. Nowadays, or at least at this point of my experience: I’m glad that most of my visits are atleast 250. But like @Rod Hagensaid also, I feel there’s constantly a drain on my funds. As a traveling escort, I’m not just spending money every day, I’m spending it multiple times a day/week. It’s like, there’s always a bill due, an ad or 2 due, gas (and at these prices, it’s been like $30-40 every day or 2 that I’m spending on gas because I’m going to different areas), hotels, etc. It’s easy to end up in the red. And generally, even after having a good week or couple weeks, the longest I can take a break and be okay is about a week. I’ve only been okay taking 2 weeks off when the stimulus checks were being handed out. But the thing is, when I’m not traveling, I usually do go a week without having a client, because my home market is so shitty. That said: I could have a $1,000 stack sitting right next to me, and it may seem like I’m ahead…but in reality I have to watch like a Hawk because it can go faster than I think. I tip at restaurants, but some of my friends may occasionally tip $50-$100, one guy even tipped $200 to a waitress. And that’s their choice, I stick with tipping off the percentages. I’ve bussed tables before, so I understand the business, but I also got out of it once I seen the smoke and mirrors. I was making tips off the waitresses. And it really wasn’t much at all because they got the bigger cut. But why should I even take their cut? I would have preferred a set amount when I walked thru the door. So lately, I just try to keep it all in perspective. I rarely do dates with guys anymore (even though I’m starting to want to get back into dating again, but so many are just in it for the thrill, nothing serious). When I do go to restaurants, my friends have to understand how my money goes…meaning just because I have it, doesn’t mean I’m covering everybody’s check. I also had a previously met client the other day offer to get me a hotel room, but he’d want to subtract a portion from my donation. I’m like dude, we can do it, but I’m not agreeing to a flat rate less amount. I’d take some off, depending on what he’s wanting. Which would of been $50 off. He wanted a whole $100 discount. Ironically enough: he never went thru with it, but yet I had 2 clients, 2 nights in a row who did the same thing, and did not discount my donation. Swallow that. Edited July 30, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: Once I’m making White woman money, then I can say no to a tip lol. I want this merch on a tshirt. 'I'M MAKING WHITE WOMAN MONEY!' Rod Hagen, Becket and Jarrod_Uncut 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoleTrainer Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) I don’t *expect* tips and I do have a rate that’s high enough for me to not need them now. But I’m in the business of exceeding expectations, blowing people’s minds, and sometimes even changing their lives. And with over a decade of experience under my belt, the professionalism I offer throughout booking/hosting/etc is also generally way above “average”. Almost every single one of my regulars tips me generously every time. In that way it’s become a bit abnormal when I don’t receive a tip. I also DO live in an area where tipping is a normal part of the culture DESPITE service workers receiving a real hourly wage on their paycheck. But it’s also a very expensive area to live in (Bay Area). Tipping just feels like a fact of life. I tip my baristas, Uber drivers, delivery people, masseuse, hotel workers, and bartenders handsomely. Generosity just feels like such good energy to me. I’m lucky that my clients tip me well so that I always feel able to pay it forward to service workers I interact with daily with decent tips. So despite my opening statement to this long paragraph, the truth is that I kinda do expect tips. Just because it’s the norm with most of my clients and with most of the services I engage as well. But I would not think negatively of a client who didn’t tip. The only time I feel annoyed about the lack of tip is if a client has gone significantly over on his allotted time, I’ve been gracious enough not to kick him out in a way that would have been awkward and possibly soured his memory of the experience, but he hasn’t bothered to add anything to the rate for the time he booked. Example: client books an hour, he’s not quite satisfied at the hour mark so I let things go over by 10 minutes of playtime, then he takes a shower and lounges around chatting with me for 15 minutes instead of getting dressed and leaving. By the time he leaves we are 1 hour and 40 minutes past the session start time. But he only paid for an hour. In this circumstance I will often be annoyed by the lack of tip and it will affect how I view the client. I can understand not being able to afford to pay 1.5X my hourly rate when the client was only planning to spend an hour with me. But even a $10 or $20 tip says “thanks for going above and beyond”. It’s not even really about the money in these cases. Just the acknowledgement that I went above and beyond what was paid for and returning the favor by going above and beyond what was charged. By any amount. Edited August 1, 2021 by HoleTrainer Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexphilly Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) My favorite client is one who 'if they can't make a session due to anything and they reimburse you for your time' , because I don't ask for a deposit for any of my sessions . But mostly all bottoms are my favorites , I just don't like it when you first see me you treat me like a buffet ...whoa slow down Mister 😊...but then again lol 😈 Edited August 2, 2021 by Alexphilly Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 51 minutes ago, Alexphilly said: My favorite client is one who 'if they can't make a session due to anything and they reimburse you for your time' , because I don't ask for a deposit for any of my sessions . But mostly all bottoms are my favorites , I just don't like it when you first see me you treat me like a buffet ...whoa slow down Mister 😊...but then again lol 😈 Yes take it slow. All the goods are available but just not all at once. My favourite clients are those who kiss. And bottoms of course, especially those who respond well to rimming. Hey, I like all my clients…I always think I’ve an awesome job. Meeting people, having fun with them, leaving them happy and satisfied. Alexphilly, Rand, thomas and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Jamie21 said: Yes take it slow. All the goods are available but just not all at once. My favourite clients are those who kiss. And bottoms of course, especially those who respond well to rimming. Hey, I like all my clients…I always think I’ve an awesome job. Meeting people, having fun with them, leaving them happy and satisfied. If someone's only going to be with you for an hour or two, taking it slowly might not be the best use of their time :-) coriolis888 and Alexphilly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rod Hagen said: If someone's only going to be with you for an hour or two, taking it slowly might not be the best use of their time 🙂 Depends how many times they want to cum (or me to cum). Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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