+ Pensant Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 For the past few years I’ve taken up intermittent fasting and have had the best workouts of my life on an empty stomach. Granted, I don’t do heavy lifting anymore and have given up deadlifts; but the workouts are pretty intense. I even do cardio on an empty stomach. On Saturday I rode a metric century and didn’t eat a Clif Bar until 20 miles in. + BenjaminNicholas and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 10:19 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: First, a shredded body is not 15-18% bf. It's really sub 10. That's when everything pops. Shredded also means low water weight. Bottom line, a great body is made in the kitchen. If you're not willing to go that far, I'd recommend intermittent fasting. The 16:8 method personally works well for me. Cardio 5x a week. Lighter weights, max reps. HIIT training. You forgot to mention that you get the low water weight by drinking LOTS of water. + BenjaminNicholas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Rudynate said: You forgot to mention that you get the low water weight by drinking LOTS of water. I'm taking a corticosteroid for an autoimmune problem and I'm drinking 3-4L/day and weighing every morning so that I don't get the predsnsone moon face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Has anyone been using Liquid IV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pensant said: Has anyone been using Liquid IV? What do you mean? Like parenteral hydration for a hangover treatment or something like that? I have read that in LV there are circulating vans where you can go for hangover treatment - they give you IV hydration with vitamins and some oxygen and an hour later you are a new person. Edited August 23, 2022 by Rudynate add content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Rudynate said: What do you mean? Like parenteral hydration for a hangover treatment or something like that? I have read that in LV there are circulating vans where you can go for hangover treatment - they give you IV hydration with vitamins and some oxygen and an hour later you are a new person. Liquid IV is a powder supplement to water that's advertised to hydrate better. With 11+ grams of sugar, 11 grams of carbs and 40-50 calories, I'd advise against it if you're wanting to cut up. Water. Plain, boring water. It works. Always has. Unless you're an olympic athlete or doing some incredibly serious HIIT, there's little reason for sports drinks or something like Liquid IV. If you don't like the taste, there are tons of flavoring options that contain zero calories/sugar/carbs. Less is usually more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Rudynate said: I have read that in LV there are circulating vans where you can go for hangover treatment - they give you IV hydration with vitamins and some oxygen and an hour later you are a new person. Outside of a medical practice, IV drips are mostly mumbo-jumbo pseudoscience. The John Myers Cocktail drip has been around awhile and is used in ERs and hospitals for patients with specific needs. It's now been adopted and remixed by people in the wellness industry who are looking to make a healthy buck. Most medical journals and doctors are dubious of these fly-by-nighters who say a bag of overpriced saline will change your life. https://www.houstonmethodist.org/blog/articles/2021/may/do-iv-hydration-therapy-and-iv-vitamin-therapy-really-work/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/02/24/warnings-about-drip-bars/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/iv-vitamin-therapy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSR Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Outside of a medical practice, IV drips are mostly mumbo-jumbo pseudoscience. The John Myers Cocktail drip has been around awhile and is used in ERs and hospitals for patients with specific needs. It's now been adopted and remixed by people in the wellness industry who are looking to make a healthy buck. Most medical journals and doctors are dubious of these fly-by-nighters who say a bag of overpriced saline will change your life. https://www.houstonmethodist.org/blog/articles/2021/may/do-iv-hydration-therapy-and-iv-vitamin-therapy-really-work/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2022/02/24/warnings-about-drip-bars/ https://www.cedars-sinai.org/blog/iv-vitamin-therapy.html IV drips were trendy amongst professional tennis players in the early 1990s because they supposedly sped up recovery. An aging Jimmy Connors was the most prominent devotee, and Connors with his portable IV drip became a bit of a fixture in the locker room. With $millions at stake and players desperate to do anything legal to gain even the slightest incremental advantage, not a single pro does the IV thing today. That tells me all I need to know. How many bodybuilders or fitness models do IV drips today? I have no insight into that world, but my guess is the number is the same as the number of tennis players. Besides, I'd feel silly walking around the locker room like this ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 12 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Liquid IV is a powder supplement to water that's advertised to hydrate better. With 11+ grams of sugar, 11 grams of carbs and 40-50 calories, I'd advise against it if you're wanting to cut up. Water. Plain, boring water. It works. Always has. Unless you're an olympic athlete or doing some incredibly serious HIIT, there's little reason for sports drinks or something like Liquid IV. If you don't like the taste, there are tons of flavoring options that contain zero calories/sugar/carbs. Less is usually more. Thanks for that information! + BenjaminNicholas and Rudynate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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