viewing ownly Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 This is a stipulation I'd see very seldom, but now it seems to be exploding in popularity. When penis size and position preference is listed, that wouldn't be something anyone would need to know if only a massage is given, am I right? All I can gather is that if they have an upper hand with the client connection, further activity is a rule they're willing to fib on. I get it. It's so important to go in to an appointment without confusion as to the experience desired. Communication is key. soloyo215, ProjectX, marylander1940 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeezifonly Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Sending up a flare for OF/JFF colab with someone equally hot? Signaling old regulars that he’s back? Attention addict? These guys don’t want clients. ProjectX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderoz Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 And it sets up well for YMMV providers. Cliff and TorontoDrew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectX Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, jeezifonly said: Sending up a flare for OF/JFF colab with someone equally hot? Signaling old regulars that he’s back? Attention addict? These guys don’t want clients. It is unfortunate for guys trying to make money and RM with their new platform brings increasing confusion, opportunity for misleading, and client research to figure out what the provider offers for personal engagements and if or when they are in my city. It’s reduced my interest significantly and makes me wonder why serious competition hasn’t taken the opportunity to do better. 🧐 Edited November 8, 2023 by ProjectX Autocorrect hates me Cliff, jeezifonly and soloyo215 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvwnsd Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 A "massage only" advertiser and I are not a match. Whenever I see an ad like that I simply move on. It is that easy. soloyo215, Cliff, peter831 and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleham Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Well how many "rent men post on rent masseur"? Now, it's happening here. I agree I simply move on. MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) On 11/8/2023 at 1:57 AM, viewing ownly said: This is a stipulation I'd see very seldom, but now it seems to be exploding in popularity. When penis size and position preference is listed, that wouldn't be something anyone would need to know if only a massage is given, am I right? All I can gather is that if they have an upper hand with the client connection, further activity is a rule they're willing to fib on. I get it. It's so important to go in to an appointment without confusion as to the experience desired. Communication is key. I do see the increase in popularity, which is valid (IMO). I also see how there are massages that can evolve into something else for a little extra. Like you state, I have known providers that don't want to be labeled "escorts", so the massage thing is some kind of cover. I'm sure that they have their reasons for it. Also, the massage setting seems to give the provider a little more control as to how far they want to go with a client. There isn't a specific rule about what people do (or get done) in an erotic massage, so the provider can decide. The same is true from clients who want extras but for some reason need to cover, so they "are not hiring an escort, they are getting a massage". That's my take on that massage-in-escort-sites-and-escorts-in-massage-sites thing. It doesn't really bother me personally, and I always get a sense of the massage skills that the provider offers before contacting and asking for specifics. Communication can help a great deal, though there are always suprises, good and bad. The thing is that there is infact, a market for that, hence the increase in popularity. It increases the need for others to have to navigate through communication, but there are reasons why it exists. Edited November 11, 2023 by soloyo215 + ButchAtl and Your Man in Arlington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 1:57 AM, viewing ownly said: This is a stipulation I'd see very seldom, but now it seems to be exploding in popularity. When penis size and position preference is listed, that wouldn't be something anyone would need to know if only a massage is given, am I right? All I can gather is that if they have an upper hand with the client connection, further activity is a rule they're willing to fib on. I get it. It's so important to go in to an appointment without confusion as to the experience desired. Communication is key. The real question is whether the clients want an escort or a massage fee... Are the escorts "a la carte"? Would they charge differently for an oral HE instead of intercourse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn233 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Most of the guys I find say this, but then you message them you find out they are willing to do much more. I think it's like they don't wanna put it all out there publicly, in case someone they know see's their ad etc. Your Man in Arlington and Yukon21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 8:33 PM, marylander1940 said: The real question is whether the clients want an escort or a massage fee... DING DING DING.....WINNER! You nailed it my friend! I've always stated in my ads that I'm not a MT, I don't advertise as a MT and that I do not offer MT services yet I still I get loads and loads of people asking me "what's the fee for a massage?" 🤦🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Vin_Marco said: DING DING DING.....WINNER! You nailed it my friend! I've always stated in my ads that I'm not a MT, I don't advertise as a MT and that I do not offer MT services yet I still I get loads and loads of people asking me "what's the fee for a massage?" 🤦🏻♂️ Exactly! The HE is WHAT they crave they should get an escort not a masseur! Did you miss this other thread? Simon Suraci 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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