Thoughts on the meeting location being an Airbnb?

[Simon Suraci]

8 hours ago, moonlight said:

It's the owner's guest house/ADU.

^I go out of my way to figure out if the listing is an ADU or if the host is onsite or has a property that they occupy on site or a property adjacent to the unit or in view of the unit, such as a house across the street. These are a non-starter for me. I won’t rent these units because I value privacy for myself and for my clients. It’s not always clear in the listing that you’re going to be monitored in such ways. That’s one of many reasons I prefer to rent a whole stand-alone single family house.

39 minutes ago, Thelatin said:

I like to have a private pool with my guests

^This is usually cost prohibitive to have such a feature, at least for me, for business trips, but it’s nice to enjoy private amenities wherever possible.

1 hour ago, keroscenefire said:

With all the fees and restrictions they often tack on, it's often barely cheaper than a hotel and at a hotel

^You just have to be good at searching, and select cities that offer competitive Airbnb rates. Some cities are prohibitively expensive and/or the options are more limited. For some cities, hotels are the same or better in terms of price. Many of them, including mid-size cities are actually a considerable savings compared to hotels.

Hotels may be convenient for the person staying at the hotel, but often not for the person visiting. Parking fees in downtown locations and having to hike a ways with a massage table are two big ones. I consistently hear clients complain about providers hosting in downtown locations and that they won’t consider a incall in a downtown location. That’s why it behooves providers to host in AirBnBs. They’re convenient. They’re safe, depending on the neighborhood. Parking is free, close, and right next to, or on site with the unit, assuming the provider is discerning about choosing the right listing.

1 hour ago, keroscenefire said:

AirBnbs might make sense for a larger group when renting out a whole house

^Absolutely. Family or group vacations are much more cost effective this way, and arguably more fun having everyone under the same roof. It’s cozier, and offers more space and you get a full kitchen, among other amenities.

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

Slightly off topic, but in general AirBnBs have less and less appeal for me as a traveler. With all the fees and restrictions they often tack on, it's often barely cheaper than a hotel and at a hotel you have way more freedom to do what you want with it. Plus so many of the hotel chains or Hotel.com have really good rewards programs that can siginificantly lower the price.  AirBnbs might make sense for a larger group when renting out a whole house or whatever but for a solo traveller, it's a hotel all the way. 

Not dragging this out of subject but in big cities Airbnb are great choices for small families and certainly way cheaper than most hotels. I'm aware that's no longer the case in NYC. 

Some relative stayed at a nearby basement apartment with a bedroom and a sofa bed in the living room and paid $149 + tax, any hotel in the area would have been at least twice that amount and they needed 2 rooms.

I stayed with family in Miami, 2 rooms and it was 110 + tax, I checked hotels and it was at least 200 per room and obviously no kitchen.

Most hotels now require a key card to come up in the elevator, others they even require it to enter the hotel through the main door and all hotels have cameras in public places except corridors.

Having said that as long as the hotel has a club / concierge lounge I always prefer them but in large cities Airbnb are cheaper. 

@hwic04 Hotels also have cameras but they're accustomed to traffic and as long as there's no noise nobody will bother a guest. 

1 hour ago, Thelatin said:

I rent Airbnb because I like to have a private pool with my guests, in ways that you generally can’t at hotels.  If the owner wants to record me, what ever.  I’m not spending the next 20 years worrying about crap that might happen. 

Believe me... if an escort wanted to secretly tape guys having sex with him for his OF page, he would pick guys from Grindr and not clients. 

I doubt someone who owns an Airbnb would film even for his own pleasure. Why would he jeopardize his business.

On 12/4/2023 at 7:55 PM, maninsoma said:

Renting someone's apartment versus staying in a hotel is definitely a gamble.  While I have never been entirely disappointed by an Airbnb or VRBO rental, there's always been something that was disappointment.  My best experience was in Los Angeles, near Paramount Studios.  The living room was nice, the kitchen was nice, there was a washer/dryer and dishwasher.  Unfortunately, the bed was just okay -- certainly not as comfortable as a standard hotel bed.  Another apartment had a better bedroom with a more comfortable bed, but two nights out of five we were awakened in the middle of the night due to neighbors setting off fireworks for over an hour.  (This was pre-pandemic; I know that random fireworks that have nothing to do with the 4th of July have become a bigger problem since 2020.)  The worst was a rental on Kauai.  It was basically a converted laundry room behind someone's house; on my approach to the property, I was hoping that I had taken a wrong turn because the front yard looked like a junk yard.  At least it was a tropical destination and I wasn't planning to spend a lot of time at the property anyway, but the place really was one step above a dump.

Agreed with most of what you say but thank you for reminding as about hotel beds! They are resistant, made to last!

Let's picture an average escort with a 300lbs client, some Airbnb beds wouldn't survive! 

[Moke]

I also much prefer a nice hotel. Unrelated to this hobby, I’ve had friends whose travel has been disrupted bc airBnB hosts fuck up the resy, wasn’t available for problems or totally misrepresent the home. Hotels r much easier all round. 

[+ keroscenefire]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

 

Most hotels now require a key card to come up in the elevator, others they even require it to enter the hotel through the main door and all hotels have cameras in public places except corridors.

Having said that as long as the hotel has a club / concierge lounge I always prefer them but in large cities Airbnb are cheaper. 

I stayed in an Airbnb in Toronto once and it became clear that it wasn't actually allowed in his building. I had the whole apartment which was nice but like I always had to go through weird side doors and avoid the concierge in the building. It just made it very uncomfortable and felt like I actually couldn't host guys there. Plus there was a "cleaning fee" even though the instructions had me strip the bed, put the linens and towels in the washing machine, put all the dishes in the dishwasher and throw out all the trash in the trash room. And he even asked if I could sweep up his floors if there were any messes. It's like what is this $50 cleaning fee for then? That was kind of the last time I did an AirBnB. Just have had some kind of shady experiences with them.

[Thelatin]

1 hour ago, Moke said:

e. Hotels r much easier all round. 

To an extent.  But I’ll be spending a week at an airbnb this month.  So out poor pool and spa.  Naked all day every day with “guests” - hard to do that at a hotel. 

[moonlight]

10 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

^I go out of my way to figure out if the listing is an ADU or if the host is onsite or has a property that they occupy on site or a property adjacent to the unit or in view of the unit, such as a house across the street. These are a non-starter for me. I won’t rent these units because I value privacy for myself and for my clients. It’s not always clear in the listing that you’re going to be monitored in such ways. That’s one of many reasons I prefer to rent a whole stand-alone single family house.

If only you ran a charm school, Simon, to teach other men such niceties.

In my case, it was clear that English was not his primary language, so the exact meaning of "guest house" and its implications may have been lost. But the listing does make very clear that the owners live on the property.

[Simon Suraci]

16 hours ago, moonlight said:

If only you ran a charm school, Simon, to teach other men such niceties.

I run a snake charming school…😆 

In all seriousness, I continue to learn every month, every year. I am happy to share my journey and lessons learned with those who want to grow. Big ask since the youngest among us think they know everything, and the older ones think the same, but for very different reasons. Technology and culture are in constant flux. Nothing is exactly the same as it was five years ago, and nothing will be exactly the same five years from now. A few core tenets are exactly the same because they are rooted in human nature.

Unabashedly, I don’t know everything. I aim with an open mind to keep growing and learning from both those older and younger than myself, peers, and clients alike. That’s one of the main reasons why I’m here. Plenty of providers know about this site yet see no value in engaging with it. I do.

Accommodation selection is one of many hiring topics. To any provider that wants my input, I’m an open book. 

17 hours ago, moonlight said:

English was not his primary language

^Understandable. Be kind and patient with your providers speaking English as a second (or third) language. Anyone offering services in a culture different from their own should take it upon himself to use whatever tools available to communicate as clearly as he can. Some things, however, get lost in translation no matter the level of effort. That’s just the way it goes.

[+ haring222]

Well, I'll chime in.  I have quite a few airbnb units.  

Honestly, I'd not recommend any escort or masseur booking an airbnb unless the host is ok with your activities.  You just never know what kind of host you will get and most will have major opinions about your hosting folks in their property.  In particular avoid any host or charges extra guest fees, as those folks tend to be all about watching guests to make sure they are not sneaking in people to avoid guest fees.  I'd have zero worries about hidden cameras, as they are just as likely to be in a hotel as an airbnb.  If you are going to be blackmailed, it will be because the provider has recorded the encounter.    You actually might want to check out misterb&b which is a more gay focused and sex positive platform to book spaces.

With that said, as a former escort I am all about supporting the working boys and have a specific unit you are welcome to book.  It's located in a fantastic neighborhood in Chicago called the Southport Cooridor and is a short walk away from the Halsted gay bar strip.  It is in a large apartment building but has a private exterior door going into the unit from the sidewalk.  I actually put in a small secondary bedroom so guys can have an extra place to actually sleep that is not the bed they are working on.  Washer in unit and I will be happy to leave extra linens and towels for you.  Not to mention, I might be very willing to barter a bit for masseurs 🙂 

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