Today is National Bartender's Day

[Ali Gator]

On my local noon news, they let viewers know 'Today is National Bartender's Day'.  The very young female news anchor then said, "So don't forget to tip your bartender today after they serve you."   The older male co-anchor chuckled at her and said, "Well, give an extra tip. You should always remember to  tip your bartender."  The younger anchor said, "Mmmm...I rarely do."  She was very serious, and there was an uncomfortable silence between the two after that exchange (and a stunned look on the older male's face). Then they cut to the surprised weather man who could only say, "Happy Bartender's Day...".

I wonder which bartender is looking forward to serving her in the future ?  

[Luv2play]

I think it is true that women are generally poorer tippers than men. Maybe an exception is when women are in the service business themselves in an area where tipping is the norm, like waitresses or hairdressers.

I have seen it at play in restarurents years ago when payment was more often in cash and the tip was left on tbe table. Today with these machines they bring you at the table you don't know what is being paid as a tip.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Luv2play

[CuriousByNature]

[Ali Gator]

1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

I think it is true that women are generally poorer tippers than men. Maybe an exception is when women are in the service business themselves in an area where tipping is the norm, like waitresses or hairdressers.

I have seen it at play in restarurents years ago when payment was more often in cash and the tip was left on tbe table. Today with these machines they bring you at the table you don't know what is being paid as a tip.

I think it's more of a generational tip. I have a part-time job in the service industry, catering to wealthy and well-educated people. The younger generations (under 50) DO NOT TIP. Neither men nor women, no matter their profession.

[+ BobPS]

I don’t understand why younger people don’t tip. They certainly watched their parents tip. Also, many  of us in high school or in college had classmates who were servers, and or bartenders or we were servers, bartenders, etc . ourselves. Unless you live under a rock, you know that servers, , bartenders, etc., rely on tips for such luxuries as rent and food. IMNSHO, if you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out or go to a bar.

[Luv2play]

1 hour ago, BobPS said:

I don’t understand why younger people don’t tip. They certainly watched their parents tip. Also, many  of us in high school or in college had classmates who were servers, and or bartenders or we were servers, bartenders, etc . ourselves. Unless you live under a rock, you know that servers, , bartenders, etc., rely on tips for such luxuries as rent and food. IMNSHO, if you can’t afford to tip, you can’t afford to eat out or go to a bar.

I agree with the last sentence that if you can't bring yourself to tip for a meal or a drink that is brought to you ( not buffet or self serve places) then go to the latter.

[+ azdr0710]

it seems the entire rest of the world figured out tipping/service charges for good long ago and the US continues to agonize and wring its hands over how much to tip and even the custom itself......this uncertainty has been going on for many decades.....US tourists overseas feel guilty and will leave the good ol' 15% cash on the table, despite a service charge and much to the bemusement of staff......well-intentioned restaurant managers/owners have tried various methods to solve it for the customer, but nothing sticks.......no answer in sight.....

this suggestion upthread that under 50s don't tip these days is news to me......

[SouthOfTheBorder]

3 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

this suggestion upthread that under 50s don't tip these days is news to me.....

yeah - I’ve never seen mention of this anywhere.  If this was true, the service industry dependent on tips would be in open revolt.

 

[viewing ownly]

Jobs that pay a low wage with the expectation of tips are the worst kind of jobs to have. I had one, and went two seven week stretches, including one from late November to early January without making a penny. I quit because I was tired of being blamed for adversely effecting everyone else's salaries. The last straw was working a Super Bowl, busting my ass, and making 2 dollars. Everyone else made around three hundred, at a minimum. Tips were divided up and shared.

[+ Pensant]

10 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

this suggestion upthread that under 50s don't tip these days is news to me......

That is absolutely not my experience. The kids I see at coffee shops and bars around me are excellent tippers. 

[Ali Gator]

9 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

yeah - I’ve never seen mention of this anywhere.  If this was true, the service industry dependent on tips would be in open revolt.

 

In case you haven't noticed, the service industry is in an open revolt - Starbucks is trying to unionize each location (because the servers say they are not making enough money in their hourly wage or in their tip cup (and who is their core demo who should be tipping ?);   restaurants are closing each day or cutting back on open hours because they can't find help (no one wants to be a server these days when they're not getting tipped);  fine restaurants are cutting back / eliminating valet service as they can't find anyone to fill those positions (again, no one is tipping); major hotels are slowly getting rid of 'bellman' services as those jobs can't be filled since no one tips them any more (BTW - read up on the hotel industry these days: they can't staff bellmen, housekeepers, restaurant staff, room-service, and other service-oriented positions which depend on tips), etc.  Many thought the 'answer' was those cash-out terminals now found in every restaurant where the "tipping suggestions" pop out for you to choose - but everyone found a way around it by tapping on 'custom tip' and leaving "0" (I learned this trick from a young professional in her 20s.)  

And who is the core demo who is the clientele these days for the above ?  22 - 50 year olds. 

[Ali Gator]

9 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

Jobs that pay a low wage with the expectation of tips are the worst kind of jobs to have. I had one, and went two seven week stretches, including one from late November to early January without making a penny. I quit because I was tired of being blamed for adversely effecting everyone else's salaries. The last straw was working a Super Bowl, busting my ass, and making 2 dollars. Everyone else made around three hundred, at a minimum. Tips were divided up and shared.

I have a neighbor who just graduated with an MBA from a prestigious business college this past, at 24. He's responsible and mature for his age. He's quite handsome, tall, with a hot gym body - very sexy and he knows how to use it. 

He was hired in June at a brand new upscale restaurant / club which opened in one of the 'upscale hotels' in our financial district. He was hired as bartender in their club, which is what he wanted so he could meet and network with people his own age and potential head-hunters from the companies in the area who went to this place after work. He has a full-time job, but this was a weekend job to supplement his income.  (I've checked out the social media pages of this restaurant / club over the summer and the past few months - all the female patrons look like Taylor Swift or Kim Kardashian, and all the guys look like Harry Styles or Timothee. Seriously. )  

I was catching up with this young neighbor over Thanksgiving weekend when he was outside. He told me he hated his server job as he's making no money. He told me about the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving (big 'going out night' for younger singles) - the place was packed all night and he 'busted his ass' with the other servers. He made no money (or as he said, 'less than $150 on tips', while he correctly was expecting at least double that working the bar all night). He said some of the women left him their phone number where it said 'tip' on the check. (He also said this wasn't uncommon during the summer).

My neighbor said he gave a month's notice to his boss the other day. He really likes his boss and coworkers, but he can't survive there any longer.  He will stay through New Year's Eve since the place is booked for December for Christmas parties, mostly from the financial community. Again, I commend him for being responsible - especially to his boss and coworkers. 

So then he will be looking for another p/t  job to supplement his 'entry level' income  - I think he should be an escort (I'd hire him in a heartbeat), but that's a suggestion for another day.  (With a handsome face and a 24 year old muscled chest with actual hair on it - he has little competition! 😊).