ICTJOCK Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I'm interested in both provider and client views on bookings on the Christmas Eve/ Day timeframe. I am always ask if I will do it and I did on Christmas Eve for a couple of years, but now feel I need time with my friends and family. Most client's understand. When I have been booked on the "Eve", clients were generally very gracious and generous in their tips. The end of the year tends to be very busy anyway, so I now tend to think of the two day holiday timeframe as "my time". Thoughts on this and for those clients, how do you approach the holiday? Your Man in Arlington and dbar123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ICTJOCK said: I'm interested in both provider and client views on bookings on the Christmas Eve/ Day timeframe. I am always ask if I will do it and I did on Christmas Eve for a couple of years, but now feel I need time with my friends and family. Most client's understand. When I have been booked on the "Eve", clients were generally very gracious and generous in their tips. The end of the year tends to be very busy anyway, so I now tend to think of the two day holiday timeframe as "my time". Thoughts on this and for those clients, how do you approach the holiday? If someone wants to book me on Christmas Eve/Day I am always willing. While it's nice to be with friends and family during the holiday making some money is also important too I find. Luv2play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Keenan said: If someone wants to book me on Christmas Eve/Day I am always willing. While it's nice to be with friends and family during the holiday making some money is also important too I find. I hope though you don't tell your family you can't come to a family xmas function to take a client instead. I have worked places where I was able to get pretty much unlimited overtime at this time of year but I realized money is not the be all end all and it was important to have some downtime and make time for family. Njguy2, MikeBiDude, ICTJOCK and 3 others 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted December 17, 2023 Author Share Posted December 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, Keenan said: If someone wants to book me on Christmas Eve/Day I am always willing. While it's nice to be with friends and family during the holiday making some money is also important too I find. A heathy balance is important. Christmas comes once a year and I know the New Year's holiday will be busy. I view it as a reasonable trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelatin Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I’m looking forward to reconnecting with my first long term provider over Xmas. He had moved away, and then Covid etc. We always got along very well so would like to travel with him if we still click. ICTJOCK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Doing this kind of work it is easy to get drawn into saying “yes” to all requests for bookings because you don’t want to turn down the business (you never know when the clients might stop coming). But I’ve found it’s important to draw some boundaries and keep some time sacrosanct for yourself. So whilst I’m happy to see clients on Christmas Eve, I’ll not take any bookings for 25th or 26th. TorontoDrew, + KensingtonHomo, Your Man in Arlington and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 If all plays out well and it goes as best as possible, realistically, how many more Christmas's do I have left with my family or my parents specifically.... my mom is in her late 60's, my dad in his early 70's..... I'd hate to look back in regret and wished I took advantage of being able to see my family and folks when I easily could've. ..Time is our most valuable commodity.... we can always make more money but time we will not get back.... I preface almost all my posts here by stating that we all do it differently and once again I find myself seeing some similarities with guys like @Jamie21 but so drastically different from so many others. If I could proffer or dole any unsolicited advice it would be to be well aware and remind ourselves that tomorrow isn't promised and our time here on this planet is both numbered and finite...... I realize that not everyone's financial situation is the same and I'd hate to think that someone couldn't pass on a few days a year however if both a provider and a "conspicuous consumer" both don't have a family ( that would make me sad ) then who's to say seeing one another on Christmas Eve or Christmas 🎅🏽 day isn't such a bad idea..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I haven't done 'traditional' holidays for many years. It's just never been a big deal to me. If a client wants to go somewhere and asks me as their company, I'm game. For example, this year I'll spend xmas eve through the 28th on a small island in the Caribbean. Edited December 17, 2023 by BenjaminNicholas Luv2play, spidir, slimdude2 and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, arnemgreeves said: A lot of clients can lack empathy, and have unfair expectations of escorts. That said, there's little wrong if the escort doesn't mind working on holidays, but then it shouldn't be an expectation. A provider doesn't even have to say I'm not free on xmas as I wanna spend time with family. They can simply reply back I do not have any availability that day. Simple response. ICTJOCK, Your Man in Arlington, + robear and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I reserve the day of Christmas and day of Thanksgiving for family. Some of the people at these gatherings I may only see once or twice a year. One member is near the end of his expected life. Not missing that. Edited December 17, 2023 by Simon Suraci ICTJOCK, + Pensant, Shawn Monroe and 5 others 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I don’t think there’s a wrong answer here. I don’t book over the holidays due to family commitments, but I don’t presume that others value this holiday, have family or would want to spend this time with them, or that this is the time of year they’d want to take time off. As an aside, there are many reasons that clients book time with providers; being horny is just one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, arnemgreeves said: True. But there are always pushy clients who would do this. We just need to leabe escorts alone and not expect them to be at a beck and call. a day or two without a bj or fucking will suffice, it won't kill a person! My experience is that pushy clients are extremely rare. If I say I’m not available then they take it as that and either ask for a different day or just say ‘thanks’. Maybe my experience is unusual but I doubt it. The ‘pushy’ client is not really a thing. In fact most clients are more on the deferential, non assuming kind. + Vegas_Millennial, + Pensant, ICTJOCK and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippoorwill Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 When I was young and picking up tricks in bars, I always found Thanksgiving night and Christmas night to be easy pickings. People had spent all day with family and were ready to put a bullet through their brain or a c__k up their a__. Now that I am past the tricking age and in the hiring age, I would expect there are likewise many clients desiring relaxation after a stressful day with family. But of course, completely up to providers to decide if they are working or not. That's the nice thing about being an independent provider. viewing ownly, Your Man in Arlington, BonVivant and 7 others 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I’ve always had a big family so I’m very busy with family during the holidays. But I think providers who see clients who may not have family or close friends to spend the holidays with are doing a lovely service. Hot4latin, spidir, Walt and 3 others 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Jamie21 said: Doing this kind of work it is easy to get drawn into saying “yes” to all requests for bookings because you don’t want to turn down the business (you never know when the clients might stop coming). But I’ve found it’s important to draw some boundaries and keep some time sacrosanct for yourself. So whilst I’m happy to see clients on Christmas Eve, I’ll not take any bookings for 25th or 26th. I like the answer. You are your own boss, I've enjoyed making my own decisions since I was in graduate school. Hope all goes well and you enjoy a peaceful and enjoyable Christmas and the day after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: I’ve always had a big family so I’m very busy with family during the holidays. But I think providers who see clients who may not have family or close friends to spend the holidays with are doing a lovely service. Good point. I talked about my extended times with clients around this time of year and I don't mind giving them a little company or to chat in some personal detail if they initiate it or want company. I just appreciate a little down time. My non escort professional career is also on pause during that time and it is quite nice to relax with family or take a trip. I also appreciate time with my boyfriend. Luv2play, Your Man in Arlington and + KensingtonHomo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamie21 said: My experience is that pushy clients are extremely rare. If I say I’m not available then they take it as that and either ask for a different day or just say ‘thanks’. Maybe my experience is unusual but I doubt it. The ‘pushy’ client is not really a thing. In fact most clients are more on the deferential, non assuming kind. This must be a polite British thing! Maybe also in Canada? Some clients here in the US are pushy. Not the majority, but a few here and there have no respect for “no” or “I’m unavailable on x day or y time”. I offer alternatives like “I’m sorry, I am unavailable on 12/25, but I have availability from 12pm-7pm the day after”. Then they ask the same thing again, “Nothing available on Christmas Day?” 🤦♂️ Luv2play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Another guy here who's always with his family on Christmas. Remote tech work is a great thing. Hiring's not much of an option. And always spend NYE with friends. One time I did hire a guy on NYE, since it was shortly after a breakup and I cut my plans. He's been a regular for 7 years now. Profitable rebound. ICTJOCK, Marc in Calif, Your Man in Arlington and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viewing ownly Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's really a double-edged sword. It seems the men I'm interested in seeing on major holidays are close with their family, so are not available. I was accused of being incredibly inconsiderate to even ask with one of them. Understand, BECAUSE it's a major holiday, I have the time off that normally I don't. I'm glad to see that more of you are open to meets regardless of the day it is. I presume business still isn't brisk on those days because of the client's fear of potentially being inconsiderate to ask. Shawn Monroe and Marc in Calif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: This must be a polite British thing! Maybe also in Canada? Some clients here in the US are pushy. Not the majority, but a few here and there have no respect for “no” or “I’m unavailable on x day or y time”. I offer alternatives like “I’m sorry, I am unavailable on 12/25, but I have availability from 12pm-7pm the day after”. Then they ask the same thing again, “Nothing available on Christmas Day?” 🤦♂️ My clients are international. Being based in London I get a lot of US visitors, and the Middle East as well as Brits. I’d say the most pushy as to availability are the Middle Eastern clients who seem to like to pick times that aren’t available. As in: Client: “when are you available tomorrow?” Me: “I’m available between 11am and 2pm, or 4pm to 8pm”. Client: “I book an hour at 6pm” Me: “I cant do 6pm” …..and so it goes on with me suggesting available times and him asking for days or times I can’t do. Eventually if we do set a time then he’ll move it by 15 minutes. I think these clients just enjoy the haggle. They could reach agreement quickly but that feels like they haven’t achieved anything so they turn the booking into a haggle. At the session they’re usually very deferential indeed (and super inhibited), but that’s a different topic! Simon Suraci, + Pensant, BonVivant and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot4latin Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Jamie21 said: My clients are international. Being based in London I get a lot of US visitors, and the Middle East as well as Brits. I’d say the most pushy as to availability are the Middle Eastern clients who seem to like to pick times that aren’t available. As in: Client: “when are you available tomorrow?” Me: “I’m available between 11am and 2pm, or 4pm to 8pm”. Client: “I book an hour at 6pm” Me: “I cant do 6pm” …..and so it goes on with me suggesting available times and him asking for days or times I can’t do. Eventually if we do set a time then he’ll move it by 15 minutes. I think these clients just enjoy the haggle. They could reach agreement quickly but that feels like they haven’t achieved anything so they turn the booking into a haggle. At the session they’re usually very deferential indeed (and super inhibited), but that’s a different topic! At risk of being a difficult client, in what time zone does 6pm not fall between 4pm to 8pm? Jamie21, Marc in Calif, Moke and 10 others 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 As a client that hires at least once every month and frequently more often, the major holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving usually find me with friends or family. In the past New Years as well but now that I live in a small town rather remote from family I wouldn’t mind seeing a provider then. My experience when I lived in Montreal some years ago was that most providers weren’t available then as they either had significant others they spent time with or were into going to parties. Walt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, ICTJOCK said: I'm interested in both provider and client views on bookings on the Christmas Eve/ Day timeframe. I am always ask if I will do it and I did on Christmas Eve for a couple of years, but now feel I need time with my friends and family. Most client's understand. When I have been booked on the "Eve", clients were generally very gracious and generous in their tips. The end of the year tends to be very busy anyway, so I now tend to think of the two day holiday timeframe as "my time". Thoughts on this and for those clients, how do you approach the holiday? For me, I am with my immediate family during the holiday season, and in that setting it's really inapproproiate for me to even think about a provider. However, I know that the holiday season is a lonely, depressing and difficult season for many. The movie theaters, bars and many other venues are full during those days, as many prefer to escape the celebrations (for a number of reasons, not just sadness and depression). To me that indicates that it makes sense that some might want to treat themselves with a good time with a provider. I also imagine that there migh be providers who are on the same page, the holiday season might not be as celebratory, or they might prefer to cash in rather than celebrating. It's my believe that as providers you get to choose your clients and schedule, so not being available during the holiday season should be respected by clients as much as when you are not available at any other time of the year. I imagine the same goes for other relevant dates, birthdays, annyversaries, or just self-care. The holiday season seems to be rough on some people, though, so some clients might be extra needy. Just my thoughts. Edited December 18, 2023 by soloyo215 + APPLE1, liubit, Simon Suraci and 3 others 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, soloyo215 said: It's my believe that as providers you get to choose your clients and schedule, so not being available during the holiday season should be respected by clients as much as when you are not available at any other time of the year. I imagine the same goes for other relevant dates, birthdays, annyversaries, or just self-care. The holiday season seems to be rough on some people, though, so some clients might be extra needy. Just my thoughts. Well said, thanks for sharing! Simon Suraci and soloyo215 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfer Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Not all clients hire simply because they're horny and need to unload. The first holidays after my divorce, I enquired with a regular (at the time) if we could have a session around Christmas. I felt lonely and did not want to be with the little family I had because it would remind me of the divorce. soloyo215, Brock O, + BenjaminNicholas and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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