Sub boy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 minutes ago, carolus said: If the OP doesn't take a "no" for what it is, then that's an issue. merely asking isn't. I recall i used to see a nude massage only provider several years ago, and I would admit I asked him once if he did sex. He smiled and said "no, he only gives massage since sex to him is special". I said no problem and never raised it again. I recall him doing an interview for a local LGBT mag, and he said the same thing that he didn't offer intercourse, only massages, handjobs and prostate massages at best, so one can infer it was a hardline and most likely a number of his clients asked and he declined. It's a pretty natural request in that setting, given the erotic nature of massage and him being naked whilst delivering it. I don't really see the deal. Provided the client respects the escort's boundaries, it's pretty fair. Did the provider specifically state “no sex” on his advertisement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 20 minutes ago, Sub boy said: And like I already said, there’s no harm is respectfully asking. But it’s kind of pointless when you already know the answer is no. Oh NOW you’ve changed your tune…. earlier, you equated asking to “sexual harassment.” + Vegas_Millennial, + azdr0710 and Danny-Darko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I personally wouldn't contact a "women only" escort, as I avoid straight guys. As far as asking - if a guy lists himself on a gay website, he's asking to be hit on by gay men. I wouldn't be surprised if the "women only" guys just say that so they can keep telling themselves they're straight. + Vegas_Millennial and + APPLE1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said: I personally wouldn't contact a "women only" escort, as I avoid straight guys. As far as asking - if a guy lists himself on a gay website, he's asking to be hit on by gay men. I wouldn't be surprised if the "women only" guys just say that so they can keep telling themselves they're straight. Neither would I. And there are plenty “straight” guys who are willing to have sex with men. But when they specifically state “ Ladies only”, it’s pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) On 6/14/2024 at 8:35 PM, Henric8 said: There are a few straight performers that advertise in certain escort forums, especially here in Europe. Although they advertise for ladies only, I would not be surprised if they may bend the rules, at least to a certain extent for the right price. Has anyone ever contacted someone like this, and what would be the right approach? I do not want to offend anyone. thanks. My current regular massuer at home is straight and only has sex with women. I see him because his rates are competitive and he gives a good thorough massage. While chatting during our second session, the subject of partners came up and it led to a discussion of how often I have sex, by which he seemed impressed and intrigued. After a few sessions, I started flirting with him a little each session. While he has not taken off his clothes (yet), he has played with my nipples and inserted a vibrator (that I provided) in my ass as I jerk off to completion as part of the ending of the massage. Some people may call that sex. I didn't start with an end goal of hiring a straight man for sexual activity. It just happened, and we're both satisfied. Edited June 17 by Vegas_Millennial Danny-Darko, SouthOfTheBorder, + azdr0710 and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolus Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 22 minutes ago, Sub boy said: Did the provider specifically state “no sex” on his advertisement? yes he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 minutes ago, carolus said: yes he did. Ok, so another “rule bender”. Got it. Do you bro, but maybe I joined the wrong forum because I’ve ran into some vile people on here who clearly hire escorts out of necessity and not out of convenience. pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and carolus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolus Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, Sub boy said: Ok, so another “rule bender”. Got it. Do you bro, but maybe I joined the wrong forum because I’ve ran into some vile people on here who clearly hire escorts out of necessity and not out of convenience. lol. yes, the moral indignation. go and label any inquiry as "sexual assault" and not even get hiring dynamics which all parties accept. If you have issues in enforcing boundaries, don't project that onto others. + DrownedBoy and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolus Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 30 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: My current regular massuer at home is straight and only has sex with women. I see him because his rates are competitive and he gives a good thorough massage. While chatting during our second session, the subject of partners came up and it led to a discussion of how often I have sex, by which he seemed impressed and intrigued. After a few sessions, I started flirting with him a little each session. While he has not taken off his clothes (yet), he has played with my nipples and inserted a vibrator (that I provided) in my ass as I jerk off to completion as part of the ending of the massage. Some people may call that sex. I didn't start with an end goal of hiring a straight man for sexual activity. It just happened, and we're both satisfied. said man isn't straight if he's willing to give anal play to another man. + Vegas_Millennial and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolus Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 You have a flair for making illogical leaps. You do realise that many men who pay for sex are married or otherwise have no issues in getting dates/sex? why then does that lend to "not testing boundaries"? curiosity, desire, and just really being horny in the moment are not limited to one's non-paid for status! look even at Kevin Spacey for a really alleged extreme case of pushing boundaries! if an A-list actor can do it, a random Joe can. Your incessant moral lectures and bad rational associations are not why I come here! marylander1940 and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, carolus said: You have a flair for making illogical leaps. You do realise that many men who pay for sex are married or otherwise have no issues in getting dates/sex? why then does that lend to "not testing boundaries"? curiosity, desire, and just really being horny in the moment are not limited to one's non-paid for status! look even at Kevin Spacey for a really alleged extreme case of pushing boundaries! if an A-list actor can do it, a random Joe can. Your incessant moral lectures and bad rational associations are not why I come here! I trust that’s not your case. Your case and the case of other “rule benders” seem rife with desperation. But anyway, hopefully you don’t run into a provider who makes you pay dearly for trying to “bend the rules”. Good luck and take care. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I look at the last 1/2 dozen posts, and this thread seems to be turning into a two man show…with the OP having bowed out long ago. @carolus and @Sub boy, as fairly new members you may not know what “time to order pizza” is. But I’m ready to order! (Hint, topic has run it’s course) + jeezopete, + Vegas_Millennial, Sub boy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Agreed. I’m over it. Monarchy79 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 6/16/2024 at 6:13 PM, pubic_assistance said: Only if you're forcing their hand. Doesn't hurt to ASK. Voluntary engagements aren't rape. (In spite of what some "me-too" cry babies want to claim). I always say in cases like this, if never hurts to ask. Chances are you’ll strike out but you never know what set of circumstances may smile down on you, like a car payment coming due, or an unexpected opening in his schedule because of a cancellation. Be prepared to pay generously though as it is you who are asking the favour. + APPLE1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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