Contacting "ladies only" escorts

[Monarchy79]

8 hours ago, Sub boy said:

Terrible example. At least with restaurants, the items you may want to substitute are still on the menu. However with a provider who blatantly says “Ladies only”, it’s very clear that men are not on the menu. 

Ummm no. 

Sex, is “what’s on the menu” 

The provider’s sexual orientation and preferences are the items that can be discussed and negotiated. 

[Monarchy79]

23 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

You must be a lot of fun at parties 🎉

As soon as anyone at a party potentially flirts with him, he’d call the police on them for “sexual assault”. 

[Monarchy79]

13 hours ago, mike carey said:

It's fine and delightfully sunny, if a little chilly, thank you for asking!

I’m feeling “triggered”. You addressing the weather is a metaphorically sexual, “micro aggression”, I’m reporting your posting for sexual intimidation and harassment!!! 😂🤓😂🤓😂

[Monarchy79]

9 hours ago, Sub boy said:

That’s like going to McDonald’s and asking “Do you also serve lobster?” 

 

Well actually my point is proven. 
There are McDonald’s that actually serve lobster…. 

Edited June 17 by Monarchy79

[Monarchy79]

2 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

It's called flirting.  It's queer that today's younger generation are afraid to flirt with anyone new, least it be called harassment.  Instead, they wait for both parties to swipe right on an application.

 

And this is why much of their generation is sexually repressed and miserable. 

They don’t understand the art of flirtation.

They incorrectly overanalyze everything.

[mike carey]

1 minute ago, Monarchy79 said:

They incorrectly overanalyze everything.

Including the weather.

[Monarchy79]

39 minutes ago, Sub boy said:

Ahhhh yes, How To Be A Predator 101, the good old “wait-until-he’s-had-a-few-drinks-and-can’t-give-legal-consent-to-get-your-way-after-he-already-told-you-no-before”. I think you left out the part where you roofied him and dragged his body back to your place. 

Ummm… you’re reaching once again. 
even in the OPs comment, getting a potential conquest inebriated was never mentioned or suggested. You literally went off the deep end because the OP wanted to ask a “straight” provider if he’d consider entertaining a male client. 
you called that rape and sexual harassment, and now you’re inferring another poster’s description of flirtation to indicate getting someone drunk or inebriated to have sex with them….

I don’t  know what goes IN your butt, but I definitely know what you’re pulling OUT of it… exaggerations, misinterpretation, and misinformation. 
 

How more insufferable can one get? 
 

 

Edited June 17 by Monarchy79

[caramelsub]

To answer the original question, I would say no, not a good idea. If the “straight” escort advertises on rentmen, and says he’s gay for pay, go for it. But if he is on a site for ladies only clients and declares himself to be straight, just leave it. I think there is some degree of wishful thinking here, which I can understand, the whole straight boy fantasy thing. But if the provider on a ladies only website specifically states he’s into women only, why bother?

[Sub boy]

1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

You must be a lot of fun at parties 🎉

Notice how you didn’t deny it 😬

And yes, I am fun at parties actually. And I don’t need to roofie guys or wait until they’re drunk to have fun either lol

And since you’re clearly a shameless deplorable I won’t waste any more time responding to you. Take care. 

[Sub boy]

43 minutes ago, caramelsub said:

To answer the original question, I would say no, not a good idea. If the “straight” escort advertises on rentmen, and says he’s gay for pay, go for it. But if he is on a site for ladies only clients and declares himself to be straight, just leave it. I think there is some degree of wishful thinking here, which I can understand, the whole straight boy fantasy thing. But if the provider on a ladies only website specifically states he’s into women only, why bother?

Exactly! And if they showed me any straight guy they’re interested in, I can show them 3 gay/bi guys who are hotter. There are plenty fish in the sea. There is NEVER a good excuse to try to “bend the rules” and coax a straight guy who clearly states “Ladies only” into doing something they obviously don’t want to do. Period. 

Edited June 17 by Sub boy

[Monarchy79]

22 minutes ago, Sub boy said:

 

And since you’re clearly a shameless deplorable I won’t waste any more time responding to you. Take care. 

Now you’ve reduced yourself to name calling… 

Classy. 

Edited June 17 by Monarchy79

[Sub boy]

2 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

Now you’ve reduced yourself to name calling… 

 

Or you. Take care. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

And this is why much of their generation is sexually repressed and miserable. 

They don’t understand the art of flirtation.

They incorrectly overanalyze everything.

One definition of a "Lady" is playing hard to get.  The art of flirtation is saying "No" with your words, but "Yes" with your eyes 😉

I can be both a Slut and a Lady by waiting until the Gentlemen buys me a drink before I offer to let him see the view from my bedroom.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, caramelsub said:

To answer the original question, I would say no, not a good idea. If the “straight” escort advertises on rentmen, and says he’s gay for pay, go for it. But if he is on a site for ladies only clients and declares himself to be straight, just leave it. I think there is some degree of wishful thinking here, which I can understand, the whole straight boy fantasy thing. But if the provider on a ladies only website specifically states he’s into women only, why bother?

Thank Goodness that my first boyfriend took the initiative to ask me out on a date, even though we were in an integrated heterosexual setting and therefore he assumed I was straight.  He opened me up, literally 😉, to a whole new world.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 6/14/2024 at 8:35 PM, Henric8 said:

There are a few straight performers that advertise in certain escort forums, especially here in Europe.  Although they  advertise for ladies only, I would not be surprised if they may bend the rules, at least to a certain extent for the right price.

Has anyone ever contacted someone like this, and what would be the right approach?   I do not want to offend anyone.  thanks.

I've approached straight male dancers who performed for ladies.  They've occasionally "bent the rules" for me... But I'm to say "Bent their publicly viewable rules", because they had a "secret menu" of services they offered to men who ask and with whom they felt comfortable.

Most memorable to me are guys in Montreal and Puerto Vallarta.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, caramelsub said:

To answer the original question, I would say no, not a good idea. If the “straight” escort advertises on rentmen, and says he’s gay for pay, go for it. But if he is on a site for ladies only clients and declares himself to be straight, just leave it. I think there is some degree of wishful thinking here, which I can understand, the whole straight boy fantasy thing. But if the provider on a ladies only website specifically states he’s into women only, why bother?

This is similar to women on Grindr trying to catch very horny questioning gay men.  I don't know why they bother me asking if I want to hook up with them, when I state in my profile I am clearly interested only in a man.  What a queer idea to think that some men would accuse these women of sexual assault for reaching out to them on the app when clearly it's meant for men only.  You block them; you don't press charges.

[Monarchy79]

1 hour ago, Sub boy said:

Or you. Take care. 

Good Riddance… 🥾💨💨💨

[carolus]

22 hours ago, Sub boy said:

I’m sorry but this was triggering for me. “Bend the rules” sounds like creepy and borderline rapist behavior. I guess there’s no harm in respectfully asking, but if his ad specifically says “ladies only” he pretty much already told you no. And remember, no means no. Otherwise it’s pretty much the same scenario as the powerful men of Hollywood that dangle money & job opportunities in front reluctant women #MeToo

with respect, that's an extreme logical reach to make. 

Asking a guy who is straight "would you fuck a man for pay?" isn't rape or SA. the worst he can say is "no". 

[carolus]

If the OP wants to ask straight escorts, let him. he'll just get told no most of the time. Or he might score lucky, occasionally. I don't see the big deal. No more than asking a top-only escort if he bottoms. He'll just say "no, i only top". What's the deal? lol.

[carolus]

5 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Ummm no. 

Sex, is “what’s on the menu” 

The provider’s sexual orientation and preferences are the items that can be discussed and negotiated. 

This depends, a lot. 

More often than not, they do what they say in their profile. this includes sex acts as well as who they fuck or what sex/gender they're willing to fuck. 

For a lot of providers it is a hard line, but not all providers would break their profile requirements. 

There is no harm in asking, I suppose. But then asking something they won't ever provide can lead to a blocking in some cases. 

The OP or anybody else can try but proceed with caution all the same. 

 

[Sub boy]

37 minutes ago, carolus said:

with respect, that's an extreme logical reach to make. 

Asking a guy who is straight "would you fuck a man for pay?" isn't rape or SA. the worst he can say is "no". 

The straight guy’s profile clearly states “Ladies only” and the original poster was already fully aware of this and his intent (as he himself admitted) was to “bend the rules”. Completely different, sorry. 

And secondly the term is sexual harassment, which is different from sexual assault. 

[carolus]

19 minutes ago, Sub boy said:

The straight guy’s profile clearly states “Ladies only” and the original poster was already fully aware of this and his intent (as he himself admitted) was to “bend the rules”. Completely different, sorry. 

And secondly the term is sexual harassment, which is different from sexual assault. 

I mentioned SA since you mentioned rapist behaviour. Asking a person if they would fuck men for pay isn't connected at all to SA. 

Don't move the goalposts. 

[carolus]

19 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Well since there are escorts in this forum let’s ask them now:

1.) if a potential client asks you to negotiate your sexual preferences/practices, do you consider that to be sexual harassment? Or simply an inquiry from a potential client? 
 

 

 

There's no real harm in asking. 
not all inquiries of this type lead to harassment or pressuring. At best, that depends on the client in question. Some might ask, and if declined, never ask again. Others might push it to the point the escort has to "fire" the client. 

An escort, if asked about if they'd breach a stated boundary or service limit, can do a few things. they may accept the breach and the extra money, politely decline, decline in a hostile manner and continue with the session, or tell the client to leave and never return. 

Escorts with sense would know there would be some clients who might ask for "more". If they are firm at preserving the boundary, so be it. 

This thing isn't really that deep, and the OP really is doing nothing wrong. 

Let's be honest here, i think most clients have asked a provider if they will do "more" in specific occasions. If the provider gives a hard line and is true to their profile, so be it. It's somewhat expected and escorts would know it happens. Take a massage-only provider, I'd bet they get many requests for sex even though massage is only on offer. It happens. they know it will happen, and they just put their foot down.

The Sub Boy guy making the OP seem like he's as bad a war criminal is very cringe and excessive. 

[Sub boy]

11 minutes ago, carolus said:

I mentioned SA since you mentioned rapist behaviour. Asking a person if they would fuck men for pay isn't connected at all to SA. 

Don't move the goalposts. 

And like I already said, there’s no harm is respectfully asking. But it’s kind of pointless when you already know the answer is no. 

[carolus]

If the OP doesn't take a "no" for what it is, then that's an issue. merely asking isn't.

I recall i used to see a nude massage only provider several years ago, and I would admit I asked him once if he did sex. He smiled and said "no, he only gives massage since sex to him is special". I said no problem and never raised it again. I recall him doing an interview for a local LGBT mag, and he said the same thing that he didn't offer intercourse, only massages, handjobs and prostate massages at best, so one can infer it was a hardline and most likely a number of his clients asked and he declined. It's a pretty natural request in that setting, given the erotic nature of massage and him being naked whilst delivering it. 

I don't really see the deal. Provided the client respects the escort's boundaries, it's pretty fair.