Providers blocking clients

[+ José Soplanucas]

1 hour ago, Sub boy said:

The high-end escorts who block do. Which is what this thread is about…

With all respect, I doubt you know what you are talking about.

By the way, you were just bragging about the "LUXURY escorts" (I am following your capitalization) you hired? I may be wrong, but that is quite tacky. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

It's also a bad idea because different providers are "worth" different amounts to different clients. There's a lot of guys other CoM members drool over that I don't find attractive at all, and vice versa.

All you can do is hope you found a provider you click with.

[+ José Soplanucas]

Back to topic, I do not think there are escorts out there blocking clients because they are tacky. Going back to the analogy with buying tomatoes, if you walk into a grocery store and shoot the question about the price without even saying good morning, you would not be tacky, you would be rude. 

Rudeness is a key indicator to know how poor your social skills are (for instance, I do not score very high there). Not only high end escorts, but any sex worker who is in a stable situation and not hustling, will care about their clients social skills. 

You can ask for the fee in your first contact, or even in your first question, without being rude. When I was hiring online, often my first contact would be something like. "Hi. I saw your ad in XXX and I am interested in meeting you. May I ask your fee for one hour in my place?". No escort would block you for initiating the conversation that way. I think many would even appreciate a straight to the point "May I ask your fee for one hour in my place?". 

Now, if your first contact is shooting a message like "How much?", I would not be surprised if an escort blocks you. Not because you would be tacky, or would sound like you are poor or concerned about the money. They may block you because you would be rude, and someone with no manners is probable unpleasant to interact with.

I think there are many reasons why an escort, or anyone, would block someone. If I were blocked, I would assess my behavior. A service provider does not block a potencial client without a reason (good or bad). 

Edited July 20 by José Soplanucas

[jmichaeliii]

14 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Back to topic, I do not think there are escorts out there blocking clients because they are tacky. Going back to the analogy with buying tomatoes, if you walk into a grocery store and shoot the question about the prive without even saying good morning, you would not be tacky, you would be rude. 

Rudeness is a key indicator to know how poor your social skills are (for instance, I do not score very high there). Not only high end escort, but any sex worker who is in a stable situation and not hustling, will care about their clients social skills. 

You can ask for the fee in your first contact, or even in your first question, without being rude. When I was hiring online, often my first contact would be something like. "Hi. I saw your ad in XXX and I am interested in meeting you. May I ask your fee for one hour in my place?". No escort would bloc you for initiating the conversation that way. I think many would even appreciate a straight to the point "May I ask your fee for one hour in my place?". 

Now, if your first contact is shooting a message like "How much?", so I would not be surprised if an escort blocks you. Not because you would be tacky, or would sound like you are poor or concerned about the money. They may block you because you would be rude, and someone with no manners is probable unpleasant to interact with.

I think there are many reasons why an escort, or anyone, would block someone. If I were blocked, I would assess my behavior. A service provider does not block a potencial client without a reason (good or bad). 

I have found this to be hit and miss no matter how you do it.  I always try to be pleasant but to the point with questions and more often than not, I get the answers and have a great experience.   I've also been completely ignored and have every question but the rate answered.

[ericwinters]

On 7/9/2024 at 6:25 PM, BeamerBikes said:

I had one block me right after a session.  Very odd because I’m usually fairly self aware and didn’t think the massage was off.  
I texted to rebook.  No issues rebooking and we have had multiple sessions since then.  We never spoke of it.  
I’m curious if it was just a vibe thing or feared a bad review? 

Interesting. I had this happen twice. One provider would not talk to me at all after the session and he was very well reviewed here, and the other I would end up seeing several times, including an overnight. Go figure.

[+ José Soplanucas]

17 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

I have found this to be hit and miss no matter how you do it.  I always try to be pleasant but to the point with questions and more often than not, I get the answers and have a great experience.   I've also been completely ignored and have every question but the rate answered.

It is easy to be ignored. I've seen a few escorts' inboxes, and the amount of hits can be overwhelming to manage. I do not think we are talking about that. We are discussing why a sex worker would block you.

[jmichaeliii]

4 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

It is easy to be ignored. I've seen a few escorts' inboxes, and the amount of hits can be overwhelming to manage. I do not think we are talking about that. We are discussing why a sex worker would block you.

Good point, I did get off topic.  That happened to me once when I booked Casey Everett in Vegas.  We had plans 2 weeks in advance and confirmed the day before.  He then no showed me then blocked me.

[Daniel84]

I block clients if they book and don't show, possessive, rude and disrespectful or if they talk about slamming..

I'm currently in San Francisco I had a client that was scheduled for Wednesday then he reschedules to Friday. Three hours before our appointment he said he can't make it.. One hour later he ask to see me at the scheduled time.. Guess what he didn't show up. So not only did he get a block from me he also got a negative review on Mr number. 

I wasted hours dealing with this client and lost other clients that wanted his time. I don't want to do this but I might have to require a small deposit for new clients. I've had eight no-shows in San Francisco this trip. 

[Sub boy]

1 hour ago, Daniel84 said:

I block clients if they book and don't show, possessive, rude and disrespectful or if they talk about slamming..

I'm currently in San Francisco I had a client that was scheduled for Wednesday then he reschedules to Friday. Three hours before our appointment he said he can't make it.. One hour later he ask to see me at the scheduled time.. Guess what he didn't show up. So not only did he get a block from me he also got a negative review on Mr number. 

I wasted hours dealing with this client and lost other clients that wanted his time. I don't want to do this but I might have to require a small deposit for new clients. I've had eight no-shows in San Francisco this trip. 

Just curious. Out of the no-shows, how many of them started the conversation with just “What’s your rate?”, “Rate?”, or some variation of a rate inquiry?

[Sub boy]

2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Now, if your first contact is shooting a message like "How much?", I would not be surprised if an escort blocks you. Not because you would be tacky, or would sound like you are poor or concerned about the money. They may block you because you would be rude, and someone with no manners is probable unpleasant to interact with.

This is exactly what I was talking about. If the first contact is only a rate inquiry with no introduction or any amplifying information as to what you want. 
 

Also… “rude can be a synonym for tacky, both words can describe something as embarrassing or distasteful. For example, tacky clothes can be inexpensive but flashy and showy, and tacky comments can be tasteless, rude, and trashy”

So thanks for proving my point

[Danny-Darko]

On 7/9/2024 at 2:26 PM, arjoness06 said:

Have any of you noticed that providers have become more “block-heavy” lately? I reached out to this provider and he immediately blocked me. And there have been several others who were quick to block too.

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It happens. I've been blocked by pushy despearte escorts who hit me up seeking business after coming across my profile. After a polite "thank you but no thank you", or a "possibly in the future when I'm in your area", and then getting blocked. Some can't deal with rejection or if one just doesn't then and there set up a date to meet up or fly out across the country for them on the spot! Also some escorts for some reason don't want to be asked any questions at all about the services they provide or their body. I guess they want whatever is posted on their profile to be taken as face value no matter how vague descriptions might be or even if they put "Ask Me" for everything. Move on, I say. It's their loss and I see it as I've dodged a bullet.   

[Danny-Darko]

On 7/10/2024 at 10:25 AM, maninsoma said:

I've read here that some providers will block people who view their photos a lot without reaching out to them to book.  I'm not sure why that would bother a provider since I don't think their ad rate is dependent on how many times its viewed, but it seems to rub some guys the wrong way.

True! This is why I always set my setting to private so they can't see if I've visited their profiles. It also avoids having to answer countless messages as to if I'm interested or not.. 

[Daniel84]

3 hours ago, Sub boy said:

Just curious. Out of the no-shows, how many of them started the conversation with just “What’s your rate?”, “Rate?”, or some variation of a rate inquiry?

I had 8 clients confirmed with my hotel and room and not show up..

[jmichaeliii]

3 minutes ago, Daniel84 said:

I had 8 clients confirmed with my hotel and room and not show up..

That sucks man and I'm sorry that happened to you.  Not all us clients suck like that!

[Lolito]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:24 AM, Sub boy said:

 

Nothing is necessarily “wrong” but opening up a conversation with a rate inquiry is tacky and immediately makes you sound poor. You basically introduced yourself as “Hi I’m a bargain shopper, is this the discount escort section?” l’m sure this is a turn off for providers, especially for the more elite providers who are only interested in wealthy clients. A wealthy client will NEVER start a conversation with a rate inquiry because money isn’t an issue. 

Furthermore his rates could differ based on the desired service (massage vs dinner companion vs BFE). But it appears you didn’t include what you were looking for or even a basic greeting. 

I disagree with this. Starting off with a rate inquiry , regardless of your wealth as a client, is a great way to signal your interest in meeting and actually paying.

escorts get a ton of unserious people , who go on and on and on with the pleasantries and the “you’re so beautiful” and etc. I used to do this- say hello, then say how are you, then say, what are you up to, and compliment endlessly. I was then told it can be a sign of a scammer/unserious client.

Starting with a rate inquiry, location, and time availability is on average, a wise thing to do in my opinion. Perhaps not for all escorts, but I believe it works for a lot.

[Daniel84]

3 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

That sucks man and I'm sorry that happened to you.  Not all us clients suck like that!

Normally the clients that book and flake are usually the clients that are into PNP.  I have been a massage therapist for 12 years and then escort for 3 years I'm pretty good at weeding out the bad ones. 

[Lolito]

11 minutes ago, Lolito said:

I disagree with this. Starting off with a rate inquiry , regardless of your wealth as a client, is a great way to signal your interest in meeting and actually paying.

escorts get a ton of unserious people , who go on and on and on with the pleasantries and the “you’re so beautiful” and etc. I used to do this- say hello, then say how are you, then say, what are you up to, and compliment endlessly. I was then told it can be a sign of a scammer/unserious client.

Starting with a rate inquiry, location, and time availability is on average, a wise thing to do in my opinion. Perhaps not for all escorts, but I believe it works for a lot.

Now, I definitely do understand that there may be a difference between

1. “Hello! Hope you’re well! You’re so hot!. I’m in NYC, are you available tonight? What are your rates?”

2. “How much”. 

[Daniel84]

2 minutes ago, JTtorretto said:

Totally off topic.  The world doesnt revolve around your millennial existence & your personal problems Danny.   
 

this thread is about escorts who block clients profiles & yet we are subjected to hearing about how all of clients in SF have flaked on you today.  

Open a thread if u want to bitch about that so we can ignore ur current diatribe. 

If you actually read what this thread is about, you would know why providers block clients. I block clients when they flake, slam , are disrespectful, rude, or if they harass me (like the guy I am quoting)

To the original post, since you were blocked by the provider, you will never know why they blocked you, so it's best not to dwell on something over which you have no control.

[JTtorretto]

8 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Actually it's not.

Read again.

Ooppss my bad  !!!

 

lol ololol

 

sorry pubic assistance

[Sub boy]

1 hour ago, Lolito said:

Now, I definitely do understand that there may be a difference between

1. “Hello! Hope you’re well! You’re so hot!. I’m in NYC, are you available tonight? What are your rates?”

2. “How much”. 

Ding, ding, ding! 
 

The difference between #1 and #2 matters. Which one sounds more like a respectful and serious client? And which one sounds more like a tacky bargain shopper who’s likely to flake? 
 

Now imagine taking it a step further and doing what I do, which is 

#3. ”Hi (escort’s name)! I’m (my name), I throughly enjoyed your profile and I’m very interested in meeting. I’m looking for (what I’m into). I would like to meet July (date) at (time) at (place) if possible. Looking forward to hearing from you!”

 

Now. Which of these 3 options do you think a LUXURY escort will take most seriously?

Edited July 21 by Sub boy

[+ José Soplanucas]

9 minutes ago, Sub boy said:

Now. Which of these 3 options do you think a LUXURY escort will take most seriously?

I am sure you already have the imaginary response of your imaginary LUXURY escort.

[Kevin Slate]

I have been blocked twice that I know of.  One was by a provider I really liked, I tipped him well, and when I left he told me how to get in touch to schedule future meetings.  I even had my phone checked because it made no sense.  About a year and a half later I noticed that he commented in his profile how he had a new phone number — I called the new number and set up another meeting.  After this meeting he said again that he hoped I would contact him when back in town and I mentioned he had blocked me.  He said he was sure he hadn’t — but commented that his boyfriend sometimes gets jealous and blocks recent phone numbers he doesn’t recognize.  I was also blocked on rentmasseur for someone who also indicated he hoped I would contact him again.  I contacted him by phone and told him after we met again and he said he never intended to block me and pulled out his computer and tried to figure out how to change it — he ended up just telling me how to contact him on another app.  I’ve learned not to read too much into these things.

[Daniel84]

2 hours ago, Sub boy said:

Ding, ding, ding! 
 

The difference between #1 and #2 matters. Which one sounds more like a respectful and serious client? And which one sounds more like a tacky bargain shopper who’s likely to flake? 
 

Now imagine taking it a step further and doing what I do, which is 

#3. ”Hi (escort’s name)! I’m (my name), I throughly enjoyed your profile and I’m very interested in meeting. I’m looking for (what I’m into). I would like to meet July (date) at (time) at (place) if possible. Looking forward to hearing from you!”

 

Now. Which of these 3 options do you think a LUXURY escort will take most seriously?

My pet peeve.. when a client says " Sup"

[liubit]

1 hour ago, Kevin Slate said:

He said he was sure he hadn’t — but commented that his boyfriend sometimes gets jealous and blocks recent phone numbers he doesn’t recognize.

This happened to me with an escort I used to see quite frequently in Prague, who suddenly, without any warning, blocked me. I was appalled, but fortunately, I had other means to contact him through common friends, and he explained that his jealous girlfriend du jour repeatedly erased “suspicious” numbers from his phone. She very quickly disappeared from the picture 😀

Edited July 21 by liubit

[Simon Suraci]

I block for several reasons. Here are just a few I can think of off the top of my head:

1. Repeatedly inquiring but never booking, sometimes over periods of years. Often with a lot of chatter that I patiently respond to every time. At some point, dealing with the client over and over has cost me more in time than it’s worth for me to collect in fee for an actual meeting, so I cut it off to quit my losses.

2. Client texts gibberish or something that looks like it will be so difficult to communicate with him that it’s not worth my time or energy to deal with it. See example below from tonight.

3. Client clearly only wants my time and attention for fantasy purposes but is not serious about booking me. Sometimes it’s obvious in a few texts or few minutes. Other times they string me along for hours or days with lots of time gaps in between messages.

4. Repeatedly asks the same questions, like I literally copy and paste my previous response or say “see response above”. Happens many, many times before I block.

5. Harassment, verbal abuse, personal attacks, threats of violence, and the like. People commenting on my body, looks or something about me they don’t like. Basically troll behavior. I suspect some of those are actually from right here on CoM.

6. Mr. Number reveals some egregious behavior from a problem client. I give 95% the benefit of the doubt, but proceed with caution. Once in a while comments are so consistent over such a long time (for example, many no-shows over two years), that I just don’t want to waste my time bothering with the client at all.

7. Penpals. Like a client books me for a one hour massage one time in a faraway city, and now feels it’s his right to insert himself into my life all the time by sending messages. I’m patient and polite, far beyond what I should be. I set boundaries with them. When they continue to ignore my boundaries, I block.

8. Scams. So many scams. On the daily.

9. Client indicates he is sexually interested in, or actually has sex with minors or non-consenting adults. Please don’t do this. It makes me have to report that stuff to the authorities and it puts me in a horrible position.

10. Stalker behavior, unhinged behavior. Like the client who I keep saying no to and eventually block but he tracks me down on Facebook and other socials to keep asking again and again, and uses manipulation tactics. He hired me for sex once and then expected me to go on dates with him for free and got upset when I didn’t and called me rude when I explained what the boundaries were. He kept at it for months with the same cycle. Eventually, just…block. He deleted his A4A profile and created a new one to try to talk to me again but I figured it out quickly, and so the saga continues on every platform to this day. I don’t engage with him anymore. Just block!

10. More will come to me…

Wtf? After these six messages, I blocked:

This one below really pissed me off. The first time he has a mysterious car accident before his appointment but texts to say he can’t make it. I’m forgoing my Father’s Day plans to make time for his second appointment and the client is having me cross dress (mutual CD situation, wants me to top… don’t ask). This next bit made me want to block him on the spot, but he apologized later. I’m at my door in lipstick, heels, and other attire (which he paid a deposit for), and he pulls this:

None of the following are reasons for me to block:

1. Client is generally annoying.

2. Client looks, age, body type, race, ability, political affiliation, religion, class, gender identity, sexual orientation, relationship status.

3. Client likes to keep in touch, but maintains some boundaries.

4. Client asks for rates or other relevant information, no matter how rudely or politely they ask. Sometimes the info is on the particular platform they are viewing, sometimes not. I still answer anyway.