wanderlust307 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 11 minutes ago, APPLE1 said: I completely understand the point. It was worth it to you, even when the price tripled. Maybe I should have been more direct in my initial reply. A "few" dollars means different things to each of us, and we all allocate discretionary funds in different ways and in different amounts. Personally, I don't have enough of a sense of entitlement to say "If these little things [Uber costs] matter to you, you probably have the wrong hobby." Much like I'd never say to someone that 'if you can't afford to hire twice a week, you can't afford this hobby.' Point taken. Mea culpa. + APPLE1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderlust307 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 minutes ago, wanderlust307 said: Point taken. Mea culpa. But pls let me add that rate tripled but it was still less than 200 USD. Also, uber was peanuts compared to the total cost 😭 + APPLE1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay DC Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I offer an Uber up front so I don’t know how many would have requested it. Parking is tricky in my condo complex. I buzz visitors in at the main gate but our security guard is located by the guest parking. The security person can ask the visitor who they are here to see and request to see ID so they can record the information in a visitor log. I then need to walk over to guest parking to give the visitor a parking pass or the visitor can get it at my front door and run back to put it in his car and walk back to my place. A car can be towed without a visible parking pass. It’s a tedious process and not every visitor wants to engage with a security person. Plus the visitor has to provide my full name and address. With Uber, a visitor is dropped at my front door-no questions asked. If you’re not parking, no security interaction. I just have to give the visitor my first name for pick up. It’s easier all around to use Uber. There is minimal public transportation in my city and none after dark. I’m retired now so discretion is no longer a top priority and using Uber makes my life easier so I should be paying for it. And I’m not sure I agree that requesting an Uber is a sign of laziness, entitlement or the decline of western civilization. If someone’s request of an Uber is so offensive, just move on rather than use energy to be indignant or calculating the number of nickels and dimes that need to be deducted especially if you read the request as a scammer or addict’s ploy to get the best of you. That energy is better used once a provider you feel comfortable with gets to your place. Most providers I hire are visiting my city and appreciate the offer. It takes a bit of a leap of faith on the provider’s part that I’ll actually get the Uber for the return trip. That said, most decline the offer of an Uber. Plus a potential Uber benefit are the stories I hear of hot Uber drivers and how spontaneous group action can occur—but my drivers seem to always be exhausted single mothers. I have noticed that since I have been making these offers, my rider rating on Uber has slipped half a point and I occasionally get charged a waiting fee. I can live with that. + ThroatCummer, wanderlust307, MikeBiDude and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 7/18/2024 at 2:38 PM, TruthBTold said: I am not taking a stance but I just wondered if you left out some facts in the narrative. So he claimed that he drove to the hotel where you were staying but realized he forgot his wallet when he got there. Did you ask to see the parking ticket or how were you made aware that he did not park when he arrived? He met me in the circular parking lot at the front of the hotel. There was also a convention of some kind going on so hotel parking was all taken. I went with him to a nearby parking lot where I paid the parking lot fee. Then we walked the one or two blocks back to the hotel. I was mentally -- then actually -- deducting the parking fee from what I'd planned to pay. He was a gym rat. All kinds of hard bulging muscles and an ass like granite. I paid the base rate (it was relatively cheap at $150.00 per hour. I hired for two hours.) but not a penny more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/13/2024 at 1:21 AM, marylander1940 said: Flakiness also goes both ways, sometimes providers don't show up Or don’t open the door … or slam the door in your face … marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/12/2024 at 9:31 AM, HotelFun said: except that if the client has to book the Uber and doesn’t have a separate profile, discretion and total privacy are lost. Some providers admit they use Uber bookings (if the client agrees or offers) to gain additional identity information. While they don't ask for an Uber solely to get ID info, they leverage the opportunity if it arises. Likewise some also request sharing Uber journey details or Apple Maps to track your journey, to be ready and know your eta, but if not done with precautions that also serves the same purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderlust307 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 34 minutes ago, DWnyc said: Some providers admit they use Uber bookings (if the client agrees or offers) to gain additional identity information. While they don't ask for an Uber solely to get ID info, they leverage the opportunity if it arises. Likewise some also request sharing Uber journey details or Apple Maps to track your journey, to be ready and know your eta, but if not done with precautions that also serves the same purpose. This happens both ways. Late at night, I've send a kid back home with my uber and saw his home address. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/15/2024 at 3:23 PM, Jamie21 said: or is in a dodgy area. Love that word! Jamie21, + WSPigBrooklyn and thomas 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotelFun Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 From recent experience, I’m now convinced that in London at least this has become the NORM with providers - they expect and insist on providing an Uber. Revolting practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderlust307 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 hours ago, HotelFun said: From recent experience, I’m now convinced that in London at least this has become the NORM with providers - they expect and insist on providing an Uber. Revolting practice I stay in hotels in central London and so far have not been asked for Uber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotelFun Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 On 8/17/2024 at 1:27 PM, wanderlust307 said: I stay in hotels in central London and so far have not been asked for Uber. Interesting. So where do you meet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 7/15/2024 at 12:17 PM, BostonDadType said: Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort. Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all. I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time. Some threads unfortunately have become a race to the bottom to see who can get the hottest guy for the least amount, some folk even brag about alleged discount they have received, sad but true. Sending an uber is not so much about the escort not covering the fare it would take him to get to the client but to show commitment. Burning apps have changed the game for bad and some escorts just can't trust new clients for outcalls. Anyone can download a new number use it for a fake outcall and later on do the same the next day with another number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 On 8/17/2024 at 7:27 AM, wanderlust307 said: I stay in hotels in central London and so far have not been asked for Uber. It's like staying in Midtown 95% of guys will be walking distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 5 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Sending an uber is not so much about the escort not covering the fare it would take him to get to the client but to show commitment. Burning apps have changed the game for bad and some escorts just can't trust new clients for outcalls. Anyone can download a new number use it for a fake outcall and later on do the same the next day with another number. ^Yes, this. I do not ask for Ubers but reliability and accountability is what providers are after, not simply to “expense” travel directly to the client. Just the other night I agreed to an outcall for a client 10 miles away. After agreeing on a rate for services, location, and what I should wear, I drove to his hotel, telling him right when I left that I am on my way and gave a precise ETA. I messaged when I arrived, saying I parked. He then read my latest message and immediately blocked me on the app. Such a waste of time. We never know with a new client if he’s serious or just playing games. It’s almost like this client deliberately wanted to waste my time and gas. He could have just said never mind before I left, or even on the way. Christ, he could have said anything at all after I arrived if he was a decent human being. Just blocking me is such a dick move. Coward. I’m not saying asking for an Uber is right or the way I personally do business, but I understand why some providers prefer an Uber. Not to make the client pay the travel expense, so much as it gives the provider greater confidence that the client will actually follow through, and if he doesn’t, the cost is on the client, not the provider. Requesting an Uber is another form of requesting a deposit. We’re not making money on deposits. We are making money on time spent with serious clients. This is one of many ways to identify more serious clients. marylander1940, BSR, Saabster and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderlust307 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, HotelFun said: Interesting. So where do you meet? At my hotel, obviously. Usually at the bar. We have a drink and then go upstairs. Edited August 19 by wanderlust307 MscleLovr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jusmeinbr Posted Monday at 03:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:04 AM In South Louisiana (to include the NO metro area), I think Uber would not come into play, or at least it hasn’t in the twenty years I’ve hired. Having said that, I found it galling when I made a business trip to Houston only a couple of weeks ago and, despite negotiating every aspect of a meeting (including me providing the hotel address at which I would be staying) a FULL EIGHT DAYS before my trip (which created a link which could easily be clicked on), I get informed an hour before our meeting that: I would have a $100 in/city “transportation fee” added to the $300 negotiated rate. Furthermore, I was simultaneously told (again, an hour before our scheduled meeting) that I would be required to remit a $100 deposit upfront to “cover gas” as the provider didn’t consider the upscale section of Houston where I chose to stay (and gave the address eight days before) to be “Houston,” notwithstanding the address CLEARLY being a Houston address! I therefore concur with prior comments that these transportation demands are functions of laziness (in my case, the provider not even clicking on a link until being ready to depart to meet an hour before the meeting) and/or entitlement! marylander1940 and BSR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted Monday at 10:10 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:10 AM On 8/18/2024 at 10:03 PM, marylander1940 said: It's like staying in Midtown 95% of guys will be walking distance. No such thing as Midtown in London! Its City or West End. Or if you want to be less specific, Zone 1 on tube. Faster to get to those locations by tube or bike than it is to take an Uber most time of the day… Saabster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted Monday at 05:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:53 PM (edited) I only ask for ubers for longer distances outside of Manhattan. It's an indirect way of having a deposit and confirming is a real client texting me. I can't take serious someone telling me he lives in New Jersey across the Hudson and not willing to uber me. Potential clients don't trust when you ask for deposits so I don't even bother. Edited Monday at 10:11 PM by socurious + BOZO T CLOWN and marylander1940 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted Monday at 06:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:01 PM If I'm new to the city and the client is far I also ask for transportation. My time when I travel is gold and costs me real money. I can't just trust someone texting and telling he is going to hire me. It's been many times random folks play games with me online. Maybe someone that can't pay 20-30 extra bucks for a Uber shouldn't be hiring escorts in the first place. Well, maybe you are just cheap. I rather stay away from cheap clients honestly. + BOZO T CLOWN and marylander1940 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:28 PM On 7/13/2024 at 7:49 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said: It is definitely both. BTC The escort is entitled to demand his conditions (the same way he is entitled to set his limitations). If you don't respect that it means we aren't a match and maybe you should move to another one. And no, hiring an escort is not the same as hiring a plummer like you said in your initial response. A sexual interaction with a stranger is a real deal and quite risky. It can cost you jail or a std. marylander1940 and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted Monday at 07:45 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:45 PM (edited) On 7/13/2024 at 5:33 AM, HotelFun said: Don’t buy it - I think it has more to do with entitlement, laziness or both. There are a myriad ways to establish if a client is a time waster - they just lack the initiative to do so Put yourself in an escort's place. At 10:00 p.m. a potential client texts you asking you to be as soon as possible at an airport hotel. Trying to save time you call him to know what he's into, other details and mostly to get a feeling, and you discover he's using a Google Voice number... You check Uber and the ride to the airport is $40 each way... Would you ask him to send you an Uber to make sure he's for real? Edited Monday at 08:20 PM by marylander1940 socurious, Moke, + BOZO T CLOWN and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted Monday at 08:00 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:00 PM 1 hour ago, socurious said: The escort is entitled to demand his conditions (the same way he is entitled to set his limitations). If you don't respect that it means we aren't a match and maybe you should move to another one. And no, hiring an escort is not the same as hiring a plummer like you said in your initial response. A sexual interaction with a stranger is a real deal and quite risky. It can cost you jail or a std. Some people on here unfortunately brag about getting a discount on a first meeting, being pushy, getting more for less, etc. I think we should treat others the way we would like to be treated. socurious, 56harrisond and + Travis69 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted Monday at 08:02 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:02 PM 2 hours ago, socurious said: I only ask for ubers for longer distances outside of Manhattan. It's an indirect way of having a deposit and confirming is a real client texting me. I can't take serious someone telling me he lives i'm New Jersey across the Hudson and not willing to uber me. Potential clients don't trust when you ask for deposits so I don't even bother. If he lives there he knows already he has a fewer selection of guys, therefore it's up to him to come to Manhattan or adopt to the logical requests of guys from Manhattan he wants to host in New Jersey. Life is about choices! Personally in his place I would go to Manhattan. Do you move the piano to the stool or the stool to the piano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted Monday at 08:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:47 PM On 8/19/2024 at 3:51 AM, wanderlust307 said: At my hotel, obviously. Usually at the bar. We have a drink and then go upstairs. Maybe you should buy them a snack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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