Is it normal to have to Uber providers if client hosts?

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I don’t pay for Ubers. This is NYC and if they choose to take a car they pay for it out of their fee, which is increasingly $350-$400. 

[The Dude]

I'm OK paying for a car if the outcall is my choice. If the provider is "outcall only" then it should be on them.

[BostonDadType]

Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort.  Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all.   I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time.

 

 

[+ José Soplanucas]

4 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort.  Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all.   I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time.

 

 

+1

Plus, it is up to the escort's business model. Some include the transportation cost in their fees, some charge it to the client as an additional cost. If someone does not like, move to the next instead of preaching how things should be done, according to them of course.

Edited July 15 by José Soplanucas

[Lohengrin1979]

5 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort.  Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all.   I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time.

 

 

Oh please. It’s not penny pinching. It’s expecting a provider to know their costs of operation and build it into their fee. I’m not going to wrestle with booking an Uber for a provider who is a big boy and should know how to provide transportation for himself. Truth be told, I’ve only been asked once to cover an Uber ride and I declined to. When I was a contractor, I provided my own transportation and wrote it off. While the escorts may have difficulties with that, the masseurs could and should be deducting mileage and other expenses. Then again, I’m usually not inclined to hire a 23 year old who slapped his pic on a website and decided to get paid for being pretty. Those providers are the ones asking to be chauffeured, not the true professionals, I would surmise.

[TruthBTold]

Perhaps it's like a waiter asking for transportation fees while waiting on you.  I would build these fees into my tip if I was concerned that the institution wasn't paying the waiter well.

Edited July 15 by TruthBTold

[+ DrownedBoy]

5 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort.  Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all.   I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time.

 

 

Ubers usually cost a lot more than that in a big city with traffic conditions. 

[Jamie21]

I don’t do out calls if it’s too far away or just difficult to get to or is in a dodgy area. Also, I need to take the table so usually I can’t use public transport unless the client doesn’t want the table (so we use the bed). Each person operates differently so i understand why some might prefer to have their Uber paid for by the client.

I think it’s ike the difference between a low cost airline where everything is broken down into a menu of options, all individually priced ….or a full service airline where everything is included in the headline price. The client decides which airline gets their business. 

[moonlight]

13 hours ago, BostonDadType said:

Talk about penny pinching and nasty ways to treat an escort.  Jeez guys if you can't afford the $20-$30 extra for an Uber for the guy you're hiring maybe you shouldn't be hiring at all.   I always offer the guy Uber transportation up-front - they often say no that they don't need it - but offering and even providing it shows I'm serious about meeting and it's appreciated every time.

 

 

I understand this perspective but for me and others it's a matter of discretion rather than cost. I'm wary of extending my digital footprint to third party platforms, whether through Uber or deposits, in dealings with providers. I'm happy to pay transportation costs in cash.

Edited July 16 by moonlight

[+ APPLE1]

On 7/12/2024 at 11:48 PM, APPLE1 said:

I get that most services charge a "delivery fee." If it's extra for an out call though, isn't that extra the "delivery fee?"

I was sincerely hoping for an answer or insight. My understanding was that the extra fee for outcall was compensation for travel expense and travel time.

Is it not?? Is there some logical piece I am missing?

[mike carey]

2 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

I was sincerely hoping for an answer or insight. My understanding was that the extra fee for outcall was compensation for travel expense and travel time.

Is it not?? Is there some logical piece I am missing?

In- and out-calls are priced differently for whatever reason the provider decides, and where an out-call is more expensive it may be for one of the two reasons you cite. Or maybe not. He may just want to incentivise in-calls.

[wanderlust307]

11 hours ago, Lohengrin1979 said:

I’m usually not inclined to hire a 23 year old who slapped his pic on a website and decided to get paid for being pretty. Those providers are the ones asking to be chauffeured, not the true professionals

Correct, but you don't what you 're missing. They are more fun than the pros.

[+ APPLE1]

30 minutes ago, mike carey said:

In- and out-calls are priced differently for whatever reason the provider decides, and where an out-call is more expensive it may be for one of the two reasons you cite. Or maybe not. He may just want to incentivise in-calls.

I can certainly accept that logic. But, I feel like if they can go through the effort to list in-call and out-call rates, they can certainly muster the effort to key in "Uber cost added to out-call."

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

Correct, but you don't what you 're missing. They are more fun than the pros.

I have rarely found new 23 year old providers who could measure up to the pros. Not in technique,  and certainly not in intelligence and maturity. 

[Lohengrin1979]

8 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

Correct, but you don't what you 're missing. They are more fun than the pros.

To each their own, but, I’ve never found those types to be fun. I hire to be catered to, not to mentor some twenty-something on the ins and outs of self-employment.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

On 7/15/2024 at 6:10 PM, DrownedBoy said:

Ubers usually cost a lot more than that in a big city with traffic conditions. 

Agreed!
In NYC, Chicago, Philly, DC, Atlanta, and other major US metropolitan areas, there are hundreds of RM listings.
Any provider that is foolish enough to tack on an extra $40-$50 bucks ($80-$100 round trip) will find out soon enough that he is pricing himself out of business in highly competitive (and probably a bunch of not-so-highly competitive) markets.

Any RM prima donna that is too spoiled to take public transportation would probably be a lousy escort.
Bozo is not the type to throw good money after bad.

BTC

Edited July 17 by BOZO T CLOWN

[misterhumphries]

I was on an out-of-town business trip and had an escort stiff me for his parking fee near the hotel where I was staying. He claimed he DROVE to the hotel without his wallet -- and the moon is made of green cheese. I paid the parking lot fee but quietly deducted that amount from the additional tip I had planned on offering him.

But pay for an Uber? I wouldn't do it.

[TruthBTold]

18 hours ago, misterhumphries said:

I was on an out-of-town business trip and had an escort stiff me for his parking fee near the hotel where I was staying. He claimed he DROVE to the hotel without his wallet -- and the moon is made of green cheese. I paid the parking lot fee but quietly deducted that amount from the additional tip I had planned on offering him.

But pay for an Uber? I wouldn't do it.

I am not taking a stance but I just wondered if you left out some facts in the narrative.  So he claimed that he drove to the hotel where you were staying but realized he forgot his wallet when he got there.  Did you ask to see the parking ticket or how were you made aware that he did not park when he arrived?

[+ DrownedBoy]

23 hours ago, misterhumphries said:

I was on an out-of-town business trip and had an escort stiff me for his parking fee near the hotel where I was staying. He claimed he DROVE to the hotel without his wallet -- and the moon is made of green cheese. I paid the parking lot fee but quietly deducted that amount from the additional tip I had planned on offering him.

But pay for an Uber? I wouldn't do it.

I had an escort try to stick me with a parking ticket.

Since the ticket said "Mercedes" and the guy didn't have money or a sugar daddy, I scolded him for not being careful, then stopped hiring him.

[Lolito]

On 7/12/2024 at 10:21 PM, marylander1940 said:

In this era of texting apps and flakiness sending an escort an Uber is a way to show you are for real and not going to flake.

I've never done it because where I live I am within walking distance of almost everywhere but I know plenty of escorts that 99% of the time get the client to send them an Uber. 

Flakiness also goes both ways, sometimes providers don't show up

 

 

 

 

This right here. The Uber assures providers (who often get people who waste their time) that the client is really planning to meet.

 

it also allows client some assurance that the provider is on their way (one can track the Uber ride while it is occurring).

Its a good alternative to a deposit in my opinion, especially when the provider is far away from me and skeptical about making a 2 mile + journey.

 

[wanderlust307]

This will probably be an unpopular opinion. We have a  long threat on Uber costs. This is ridiculous.  Talking about escorts trying to deceive and making inflated expense claims. And escorts scolded for driving a Mercedes and not being careful. Who are you guys? The expense department or their headmaster? 🤣

If these little things matter to you, you probably have the wrong hobby. When I am with someone I like, I just don't care about petty staff and just enjoy my time with him.

[+ APPLE1]

2 hours ago, wanderlust307 said:

This will probably be an unpopular opinion. We have a  long threat on Uber costs. This is ridiculous.  Talking about escorts trying to deceive and making inflated expense claims. And escorts scolded for driving a Mercedes and not being careful. Who are you guys? The expense department or their headmaster? 🤣

If these little things matter to you, you probably have the wrong hobby. When I am with someone I like, I just don't care about petty staff and just enjoy my time with him.

My take away from the "Mercedes story" was that client believed the provider pulled the ticket off a stranger's car, and then tried get reimbursement for a ticket that wasn't even his.

If we should all be willing to accept and pay any "add on" fees the provider deems necessary, why even ask about a the rate to start with. Wouldn't take long for a provider to double his standard with add on fees.

I look at the details of nearly every bill I pay. If there are "add on" fees that seem abnormal or excessive, I question the business, and likely frequent a different business in the future.

Edited July 19 by APPLE1

[wanderlust307]

1 hour ago, APPLE1 said:

My take away from the "Mercedes story" was that client believed the provider pulled the ticket off a stranger's car, and then tried get reimbursement for a ticket that wasn't even his.

If we should all be willing to accept and pay any "add on" fees the provider deems necessary, why even ask about a the rate to start with. Wouldn't take long for a provider to double his standard with add on fees.

I look at the details of nearly every bill I pay. If there are "add on" fees that seem abnormal or excessive, I question the business, and likely frequent a different business in the future.

My view is that it doesn't matter as long we have fun. A few dollars more makes no difference. 

[wanderlust307]

Just now, wanderlust307 said:

My view is that it doesn't matter as long we have fun. A few dollars more makes no difference. 

Here is something relevant that happened to me. A few years ago I met a 20yo in Grindr. He was not considering himself an escort, no ad in Hunqz, but made clear that he wanted money. He said he was meeting another older guy like me for 50 euros and I gladly agreed (50 euros is really low in my city and he was so good-looking...).

So we meet and everything goes extremely well. I had the best sex of my life. I got super excited, exchanged WhatsApp and Instagram and started long chats. So the next day we make plans to meet again and he goes, from now on it will be 100 euros because of... some stupid excuse. Now if this happened in my business I would say fuck off. But with him I said fine. Because he was a kid and because I had the best sex of my life. To cut a long story short, I kept seeing him for 4 years, the rate went up to 150, we had weekly meetings, lunches, dinners. He met my friends, we went to Mykonos and Ibiza together.  He told me the story of his life, about his father, his mother, his aunt... 😅 I had lots of fun with him for years. 

So should I say no to his demand from the start? That would be the correct business approach. But I would miss all this fun. I hope I make my point clear.

[+ APPLE1]

29 minutes ago, wanderlust307 said:

Here is something relevant that happened to me. A few years ago I met a 20yo in Grindr. He was not considering himself an escort, no ad in Hunqz, but made clear that he wanted money. He said he was meeting another older guy like me for 50 euros and I gladly agreed (50 euros is really low in my city and he was so good-looking...).

So we meet and everything goes extremely well. I had the best sex of my life. I got super excited, exchanged WhatsApp and Instagram and started long chats. So the next day we make plans to meet again and he goes, from now on it will be 100 euros because of... some stupid excuse. Now if this happened in my business I would say fuck off. But with him I said fine. Because he was a kid and because I had the best sex of my life. To cut a long story short, I kept seeing him for 4 years, the rate went up to 150, we had weekly meetings, lunches, dinners. He met my friends, we went to Mykonos and Ibiza together.  He told me the story of his life, about his father, his mother, his aunt... 😅 I had lots of fun with him for years. 

So should I say no to his demand from the start? That would be the correct business approach. But I would miss all this fun. I hope I make my point clear.

I completely understand the point. It was worth it to you, even when the price tripled.

Maybe I should have been more direct in my initial reply. A "few" dollars means different things to each of us, and we all allocate discretionary funds in different ways and in different amounts.

Personally, I don't have enough of a sense of entitlement to say "If these little things [Uber costs] matter to you, you probably have the wrong hobby."

Much like I'd never say to someone that 'if you can't afford to hire twice a week, you can't afford this hobby.'