HotelFun Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 I mean, seriously, in 2024 how can the best we have be such an outdated, non user friendly, unreliable platform? The alternatives are even worse and not worth a mention. How is there not a slick, modern, utterly reliable global platform in 2024? How are there are not agencies that can handle every step of arranging, organizing and guaranteeing bucket list experiences with the best providers (or others like celebs) that are out of normal reach? surely there is a market of zillionaires or those with excessive disposable income to pay anything to have everything taken care of and arranged for a weekend with someone that is otherwise just a fantasy. What happened to money can buy anything? GCMan and marylander1940 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ poolboy48220 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 I kind of miss the days of agencies, pre-internet hiring. The agency I used most often knew me and knew my type, when I'd call they'd tell me about any new guys that they thought I'd like. I did hit the jackpot with one guy who gave me his number and we met many times, just arranging between ourselves. + DrownedBoy, + Pensant, pubic_assistance and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 I don't know because I'm not that wealthy, but if I understand your argument there should be premiere websites and agencies accessible to everyone who wants to hire, but then they should also offer access to the "best providers" or "celebs" that "are out of normal reach." I'd suggest that there probably are networks available to the very wealthy who hire, and they are specifically not available to most people because they are catering to the top 1% of wealth holders. If you are in that tier and haven't made such a connection, network with the other gay 1%ers to see what they recommend. If you're not in that tier of wealth, you're certainly welcome to make your own website (or hire someone to make it to your specifications) if you don't like Rent.men. Personally I am less bothered by Rent.men's functionality than I am with the ability for obvious scammers to put up ads over and over. + APPLE1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DynamicUno Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 hours ago, HotelFun said: I mean, seriously, in 2024 how can the best we have be such an outdated, non user friendly, unreliable platform? The alternatives are even worse and not worth a mention. How is there not a slick, modern, utterly reliable global platform in 2024? How are there are not agencies that can handle every step of arranging, organizing and guaranteeing bucket list experiences with the best providers (or others like celebs) that are out of normal reach? surely there is a market of zillionaires or those with excessive disposable income to pay anything to have everything taken care of and arranged for a weekend with someone that is otherwise just a fantasy. What happened to money can buy anything? You've answered your own question. Gay zillionaires can buy access to models, minor celebrities, and other providers, and there are middlemen/fixers who discreetly make those arrangements on a bespoke basis. Nobody is going to create a mass market website or agency for those customers because discretion is a premium. For everyone else RM has carved out a niche that is very hard to duplicate, it's very costly to create a premium website from scratch especially for a legally dubious market. + José Soplanucas, BonVivant, Sub boy and 6 others 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonVivant Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 RM isn’t the only game in town. It is for the N.American market. There is also Hunqz and sleepyboy. + APPLE1, Dolman, MikeBiDude and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 37 minutes ago, DynamicUno said: Gay zillionaires can buy access to models, minor celebrities, and other providers, and there are middlemen/fixers who discreetly make those arrangements on a bespoke basis. Nobody is going to create a mass market website or agency for those customers because discretion is a premium. This is exactly right. Very wealthy people already have 'their people' to handle such things. They don't need a new website. Agencies are mostly dead and likely not coming back. It's an old model of business that doesn't suit today's younger client. + APPLE1, 56harrisond, thomas and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvwnsd Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 27 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: ...Agencies are mostly dead and likely not coming back. It's an old model of business that doesn't suit today's younger client. They also don't suit today's younger provider. Why give part of your fee to an agency when you can pay a flat monthly fee to a website where you control the messaging and content? thomas, + José Soplanucas, + DynamicUno and 5 others 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 5 hours ago, HotelFun said: I mean, seriously, in 2024 how can the best we have be such an outdated, non user friendly, unreliable platform? The alternatives are even worse and not worth a mention. How is there not a slick, modern, utterly reliable global platform in 2024? How are there are not agencies that can handle every step of arranging, organizing and guaranteeing bucket list experiences with the best providers (or others like celebs) that are out of normal reach? surely there is a market of zillionaires or those with excessive disposable income to pay anything to have everything taken care of and arranged for a weekend with someone that is otherwise just a fantasy. What happened to money can buy anything? There are agencies. Including ones that have access to famous Instagram models who publicly claim they don’t escort. However you will never find out about them unless you are well-connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 hours ago, maninsoma said: I'd suggest that there probably are networks available to the very wealthy who hire, and they are specifically not available to most people because they are catering to the top 1% There were always word-of-mouth agents who introduced models to discreet wealthy gentlemen. I am sure Hollywood works the same way. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: doesn't suit today's younger client You just casually dropped this. I think it is interesting. What did you exactly mean? A- there is a noticeable reduction in today's client's average age B- the new generation of clients, while average age remains unchanged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderlust307 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Not agencies but PR guys. They introduce the new models in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotelFun Posted July 13 Author Share Posted July 13 Thanks for all the responses. Seems the agencies or PR people do exist, then… never hear of them though. I really do think there’s a market for ultra premium BonVivant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said: You just casually dropped this. I think it is interesting. What did you exactly mean? A- there is a noticeable reduction in today's client's average age B- the new generation of clients, while average age remains unchanged A: Unless the client retires wealthy, many older clients stop seeing escorts as their income becomes firmly fixed. B: The new generation I'm seeing are as young as early 30s (in tech or finance, making good money and tired of the scene). MikeBiDude, pubic_assistance and + José Soplanucas 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ José Soplanucas Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: A: Unless the client retires wealthy, many older clients stop seeing escorts as their income becomes firmly fixed. B: The new generation I'm seeing are as young as early 30s (in tech or finance, making good money and tired of the scene). Generational replacement (B) is expected and predictable. I think interesting that clients' average age is now lower (A), as this is new (to me). This is one reason to explain the increase in escorts rates in the US that no one brought before to the table. (or I missed in case someone did) Edited July 13 by José Soplanucas + BenjaminNicholas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 14 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: B: The new generation I'm seeing are as young as early 30s (in tech or finance, making good money and tired of the scene). It's called Grindr fatigue Many IT and finance guys are of Asian or Southeast Asian background, they prefer to get what they want whenever they want instead of spending hours online. Dolman, + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub boy Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 21 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: It's called Grindr fatigue Many IT and finance guys are of Asian or Southeast Asian background, they prefer to get what they want whenever they want instead of spending hours online. This! Sure I could waste time in bars or on Grindr but I have shit to do. I hire out of convenience, not out of necessity. + KensingtonHomo and marylander1940 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnychgo Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Perhaps David Forest can be resurrected from the dead? + poolboy48220 and marylander1940 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 11 hours ago, HotelFun said: I mean, seriously, in 2024 how can the best we have be such an outdated, non user friendly, unreliable platform? The alternatives are even worse and not worth a mention. How is there not a slick, modern, utterly reliable global platform in 2024? How are there are not agencies that can handle every step of arranging, organizing and guaranteeing bucket list experiences with the best providers (or others like celebs) that are out of normal reach? surely there is a market of zillionaires or those with excessive disposable income to pay anything to have everything taken care of and arranged for a weekend with someone that is otherwise just a fantasy. What happened to money can buy anything? It's hard to believe even nowadays done people still crave the come back of Craigslist... Have you heard of a seeking arrangement success? Some gentleman there wanted to hire a kept boy for a bargain price. Back to subject, RM is not perfect although we have plenty of choices but that might depend on where do you live. Even in New York some people can't find what they're looking for for a certain price Edited July 13 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 10 hours ago, poolboy48220 said: I kind of miss the days of agencies, pre-internet hiring. The agency I used most often knew me and knew my type, when I'd call they'd tell me about any new guys that they thought I'd like. I did hit the jackpot with one guy who gave me his number and we met many times, just arranging between ourselves. That's precisely the reason so many agencies were put out of business. Internet definitely got rid of the middle man like it did in so many businesses. Edited July 13 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 There's even a word for it in economics: disintermediation. So it's not just in this business. Simon Suraci, + BenjaminNicholas, + José Soplanucas and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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