Escorts and PNP

[desertguy1954]

Today, I was on RM and was checking a profile.  His pictures and profile were perfect.  Right age hairy, versatile, then when checking on what he was into, he had listed PNP.  That is where he lost me.  I am finding this in several profiles that I look at.  Is now listing PNP in your profile a necessary item?  For me, it is an immediate click and on to the next profile.  How d you guys feel about that in an escorts profile?

[+ Kevin Eagle]

Means Chemsex

[moonlight]

I have yet to hire someone who lists PNP. I've come close but ultimately it violates a boundary I set for myself early on. TBH, I'm thinking about dropping that boundary (not to do PNP myself but to at least try well reviewed providers who list it). It just makes me nervous, and I'm very cautious.

[Daniel84]

My profile says pnp friendly. I smoke pot and if a client wants to do something else that's up to them but I don't do it. A lot of clients decide not to book me because I won't smoke T with them... 

I lost nine friends last year to fentanyl overdoses.. The sad truth especially in San Francisco where 7 out of 10 clients want PNP. 

I don't judge, when I go to big party festivals I partake in some things but as a provider I need to be at the top of my game and make sure I'm taking care of my clients. 

Most guys say they are pnp friendly because if we don't clients won't book us. 

[moonlight]

7 out of 10 in SF? Wow, that's surprising.

There's a huge difference to me between a provider who is comfortable with a client using, but doesn't use themselves, compared to the provider actually using. I don't want to hire anyone who uses T. And the most reliable way for me to do that is to simply filter out all the PNP profiles.

But there do seem to be well-reviewed providers who list PNP, so maybe there's a case to be made for evaluating on a more individual basis as a client gains experience?

Edited July 20 by moonlight

[+ ThroatCummer]

The issue is that you can only list PNP on the profile as a binary option yes/no and not clarify. Many of the escorts that I know list it, but don't use themselves. They are okay with clients who want to use something to be more comfortable or take the edge off.  Yes, that means you can get into really bad situations where a client overdoses in front of you and that's the worst case scenario. But if you are really interested in an escort and they have PNP in their profile, there is no harm in asking them to clarify when you engage with them. Those three letters are a deal breaker for some, and that's understandable. We simply can't know what or how much the escort uses, unless we ask. Then they can lie. It's a chance you take. But I have found many escorts that are actually clean and have PNP for their clients. So take that for what it's worth. 

[+ Axiom2001]

3 hours ago, Daniel84 said:

My profile says pnp friendly. I smoke pot and if a client wants to do something else that's up to them but I don't do it. A lot of clients decide not to book me because I won't smoke T with them... 

I lost nine friends last year to fentanyl overdoses.. The sad truth especially in San Francisco where 7 out of 10 clients want PNP. 

I don't judge, when I go to big party festivals I partake in some things but as a provider I need to be at the top of my game and make sure I'm taking care of my clients. 

Most guys say they are pnp friendly because if we don't clients won't book us. 

Some of the escorts with whom I played have PNP listed in their profile of "I Am Into."  They and I have partaken in some very good 420, and that's it for me!  

But one year I walked some twenty+ blocks while in San Francisco to visit an escort.  He invited me into his small apartment, invited me to sit, and after awhile offered me a drink.  I only requested water.  Well, to my being  non questioning and trusting, he must have put a little amount of Tina into my H2O, for after a bit, I began to feel strange.  We played a little bit, but he chose NOT to get fully involved.  Upon my getting ready to leave, I asked him to ring a taxi for me.  This guy played around in feigning his obtaining a taxi or maybe a Uber--I left and took the elevator.

I was out of it; I felt quite bizarre while riding on this elevator that was full of folks and took me to the underground parking area.  I freaked.  I was completely disoriented and didn't feel too well.  I managed to get outside and was in a state of confusion for about 45 mins.  I did not know where I was, but I did know, for I didn't venture beyond a two block radius from his apartment.  After a while--I came to grips with myself, found the street that I took to get there and walked back some 20+ blocks to my hotel.  ...went to my room and off to sleep, I think.

It was one hell of an experience that I wish NOT to relive.

 It's 420 only for me for now on and definitely nothing else!

[MscleLovr]

1 hour ago, Axiom2001 said:

He….offered me a drink.  I only requested water.

What a bad experience @Axiom2001 I’m glad that you were able to escape safely.
 

This is why, when visiting strangers or an area I’m unfamiliar with, I take bottled water with me. It’s also the reason why I offer first-time visitors reassurance and an unopened bottle of water. My motto is Better Safe than Sorry!

[JTtorretto]

3 hours ago, Axiom2001 said:

Some of the escorts with whom I played have PNP listed in their profile of "I Am Into."  They and I have partaken in some very good 420, and that's it for me!  

But one year I walked some twenty+ blocks while in San Francisco to visit an escort.  He invited me into his small apartment, invited me to sit, and after awhile offered me a drink.  I only requested water.  Well, to my being  non questioning and trusting, he must have put a little amount of Tina into my H2O, for after a bit, I began to feel strange.  We played a little bit, but he chose NOT to get fully involved.  Upon my getting ready to leave, I asked him to ring a taxi for me.  This guy played around in feigning his obtaining a taxi or maybe a Uber--I left and took the elevator.

I was out of it; I felt quite bizarre while riding on this elevator that was full of folks and took me to the underground parking area.  I freaked.  I was completely disoriented and didn't feel too well.  I managed to get outside and was in a state of confusion for about 45 mins.  I did not know where I was, but I did know, for I didn't venture beyond a two block radius from his apartment.  After a while--I came to grips with myself, found the street that I took to get there and walked back some 20+ blocks to my hotel.  ...went to my room and off to sleep, I think.

It was one hell of an experience that I wish NOT to relive.

 It's 420 only for me for now on and definitely nothing else!

The fact that he gave you a drink 🥃 (liquid form), feeling “strange” , “bizarre” , “disoriented” and then you went to sleep it off; is evidence that this escort gave you a dose of a drug called gHb. [also refereed to more recently as “b”, “gbl”, and the least desirable form “bdo”].  
 

The effects you describe is opposite from you feel when on tina” [aka crystal methamphetimine] which is a stimulant / not an hallucinogenic.  If you had been given meth [extremely odd in a drink btw], your senses wouldve been heightened, more alert, and super horny. Most importantly you wouldnt have been able to sleep.

A novice escort whos starting out (especially in a city such as SF where the majority of clients and 99% of the escorts partake ), easily couldve been mistaken that you understood what you were being offered as the ritual of a “party & play”  begins with the drinking of g (as the affects can take up to 20 mins).   Then usually meth is smoked or snorted in lines and the combination of the “downer” [gHb] with the “upper” [crystal meth] creates a horny, relaxed, uninhibited feeling of sublime.    
 

To do just gHb on its own makes most people feel sleepy. And to do crystal on its own, too edgy. Thats why a properly measured dosage combination is most ideal and the majority of your experienced providers will know how best to administer. 

Edited July 20 by JTtorretto

[JTtorretto]

8 hours ago, Daniel84 said:

My profile says pnp friendly. I smoke pot and if a client wants to do something else that's up to them but I don't do it. A lot of clients decide not to book me because I won't smoke T with them... 

I lost nine friends last year to fentanyl overdoses.. The sad truth especially in San Francisco where 7 out of 10 clients want PNP. 

I don't judge, when I go to big party festivals I partake in some things but as a provider I need to be at the top of my game and make sure I'm taking care of my clients. 

Most guys say they are pnp friendly because if we don't clients won't book us. 

sorry for the lost of your friends who were heroin addicts.

 

HOWEVER, You do realize that the horrific synthetic Heroin (fentanyl) has ZERO to do with the topic of this thread?   

Fentanyl is cheap synthetic HEROIN

it’s EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, isn’t sexual and I do not know any person who does heroin / fentanyl as its a completely different type of person who may enjoy sex with pnp.

DONT CONVOLUTE FENTANYL with PNP

[+ KensingtonHomo]

2 hours ago, JTtorretto said:

sorry for the lost of your friends who were heroin addicts

There is no need to dehumanize the friends that Daniel lost. People who battle substance abuse deserve our empathy and help to recover, not your judgment. 

[Thelatin]

Ghb - can be horribly addictive.  I have a friend/provider who is struggling to quit.  
 

[TorontoDrew]

My experience with PNP is limited to two friends.  It is not a good experience as both have become HIV positive due to risky behavior while high.

So any time I see PNP, it's a hard pass. 

[JTtorretto]

3 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

There is no need to dehumanize the friends that Daniel lost. People who battle substance abuse deserve our empathy and help to recover, not your judgment. 

Im sorry if you perceived it that way.  I was just stating the fact that their drug induced deaths was a result of heroin addiction. [no judgement / just the fact]. 
 

I stated this detail (which u took as a judgement) because without it, someone reading his post, whos not familiar with recreational drug use could have think that hes implying all drug use can be just as deadly “pnp = death”.  
 

Heroin / Fentanyl = is Not PNP 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 20 by JTtorretto

[Daniel84]

7 hours ago, JTtorretto said:

sorry for the lost of your friends who were heroin addicts.

 

HOWEVER, You do realize that the horrific synthetic Heroin (fentanyl) has ZERO to do with the topic of this thread?   

Fentanyl is cheap synthetic HEROIN

it’s EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, isn’t sexual and I do not know any person who does heroin / fentanyl as its a completely different type of person who may enjoy sex with pnp.

DONT CONVOLUTE FENTANYL with PNP

Okay with all due respect they weren't doing fentanyl they were doing cocaine, ketamine, and ecstasy that was laced with fentanyl. 

The majority of fentanyl overdoses is from fentanyl being laced in drugs that people don't know it's in. It has shown up in marijuana, ecstasy, Molly, cocaine, ketamine, and crystal meth. 

Do you know how many accidental overdoses are from fentanyl that is laced in other drugs. 

New Year's Eve last year. My husband and I were getting ready to go to a friend's party.  While we're waiting for the Uber my Amazon delivery was dropped off. I  picked up the package and we both went out and had a great time;  while we're at the house party two friends decided to share an ecstasy pill. The pill was laced with fentanyl in both friends overdosed. Thankfully that package that I picked up from Amazon was narcan which I use successfully to save both of my friends while we waited for paramedics to arrive. 

[Daniel84]

1 hour ago, JTtorretto said:

Im sorry if you perceived it that way.  I was just stating the fact that their drug induced deaths was a result of heroin addiction. [no judgement / just the fact]. 
 

I stated this detail (which u took as a judgement) because without it, someone reading his post, whos not familiar with recreational drug use could have think that hes implying all drug use can be just as deadly “pnp = death”.  
 

Heroin / Fentanyl = is Not PNP 

 

 

 

 

 

Dude you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Party drugs are being laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is cheap and dealers make more of a profit. Anytime you buy an illegal drug there's a risk that it could have fentanyl in it.  Why the hell do you think New York, California, Washington DC, and major cities are gives fentanyl testing strips away for free you can buy narcan at a fucking CVS now. 

You should educate yourself before you dishonor and trash the dead for something you really have no idea what you're talking about. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fentanyl-deadly-drug-dealers-lace-illicit-drugs/story%3Fid%3D96827602&ved=2ahUKEwivpcWohLaHAxWGD1kFHatqDjcQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2mekzprWwkD9CljQCHazKj

[BonVivant]

1 minute ago, Daniel84 said:

Dude you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Party drugs are being laced with fentanyl because fentanyl is cheap and dealers make more of a profit. Anytime you buy an illegal drug there's a risk that it could have fentanyl in it.  Why the hell do you think New York, California, Washington DC, and major cities are gives fentanyl testing strips away for free you can buy narcan at a fucking CVS now. 

You should educate yourself before you dishonor and trash the dead for something you really have no idea what you're talking about. 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fentanyl-deadly-drug-dealers-lace-illicit-drugs/story%3Fid%3D96827602&ved=2ahUKEwivpcWohLaHAxWGD1kFHatqDjcQFnoECBgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2mekzprWwkD9CljQCHazKj

This is why I stick to good 420. I like to stay alive. The 420 does the trick. It is satisfying. 

[Daniel84]

1 minute ago, BonVivant said:

This is why I stick to good 420. I like to stay alive. The 420 does the trick. It is satisfying. 

I agree, I love weed 😂. It's more expensive but I buy from dispensary here in Massachusetts as they are finding marijuana laced with fentanyl. 

[BonVivant]

6 minutes ago, Daniel84 said:

I agree, I love weed 😂. It's more expensive but I buy from dispensary here in Massachusetts as they are finding marijuana laced with fentanyl. 

💯. Stick to a legal, licensed dispensary only. Lucky to be in NYC. I have one on my block! 🌿🌿😎

[+ DrownedBoy]

1 hour ago, BonVivant said:

💯. Stick to a legal, licensed dispensary only. Lucky to be in NYC. I have one on my block! 🌿🌿😎

Nah - you can buy decent Delta9 (that's real THC, not Delta 8 or its cousins) on the Internet a lot cheaper than legal dispensaries. I use a place called Binoid. Illinois dispensaries are overpriced, highly taxed, and you have to visit an ATM first.

It usually comes in vape or edible form, but that's how I like to use it. Cannabis just makes me lose all my inhibitions and let my partner have his way with me.

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

There is no need to dehumanize the friends that Daniel lost. People who battle substance abuse deserve our empathy and help to recover, not your judgment. 

I think his point was that heroin is not a substance used as pnp. Which is true. It's off topic.

[Daniel84]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I think his point was that heroin is not a substance used as pnp. Which is true. It's off topic.

We are not talking about heroin we are talking about PNP where party drugs aka PNP drugs are laced with fentanyl.. 

[JTtorretto]

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I think his point was that heroin is not a substance used as pnp. Which is true. It's off topic.

THANK YOU Public_Assistance 

Bringing up heroin / fentanyl in a thread titled Escorts & PNP is off topic.  
 

daniel, maybe no one has educated you that “pnp” does not mean any assortment of “party drugs”.  PNP = is meth & ghb during a sexual encounter.  
 

You describing a new years house party, cocaine, ketamine, molly, ecstasy, 420 = ALL OFF TOPIC = that was a house party with drugs / not “pnp”.  

PNP is NOT “party drugs”.  

PnP = meth / ghb 

[Ive been an escort who has offered pnp as a service since before you could legally drive a car dude, dont lecture me]

Edited July 20 by JTtorretto

[Daniel84]

Just now, JTtorretto said:

THANK YOU Public_Assistance 

Bringing up heroin / fentanyl in a thread titled Escorts & PNP is off topic.  
 

daniel, maybe no one has educated you that “pnp” does not mean any assortment of “party drugs”.  PNP = is meth & ghb during a sexual encounter.  
 

You describing a new years house party, cocaine, ketamine, molly, ecstasy, 420 = ALL OFF TOPIC = that was a house party with drugs / not “pnp”.  
 

PnP = meth / ghb 
 

Like I said you should educate yourself before you respond. I simple Google search. 

2016, found that the most commonly used drugs in chemsex are "GHB/GBL, cocaine, ecstasy, silver bars (MDMA), poppers and Viagra".[11]

Have a good day, glad to educated you. Also where's the apology for being a jackass saying my friends were addicted to heroin.. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_and_play#:~:text=Activities may include unprotected sex,as poppers) are also used.

 

[JTtorretto]

You got your education from using google. Isnt that cute. 
 

My education is from life experience and engaging in pnp coast to coast for over 16 years. How long have you been a provider offering pnp?  Oh never? Then shut ur trap. 
 

I will not be replying further. 

Edited July 20 by JTtorretto