"Clients" asking for nudes

[socurious]

How can you tell a real client is really trying to see the product before buying it and not messing with you to try to collect pictures and flake? I have a private gallery but at times some potential clients message me on WhatsApp or text to ask for dick pictures. As a matter of fact, I just had one texting me right now on WhatsApp saying he could host tomorrow and blablabla. I told him I don't share any nudes unless I get a deposit. He ended up telling that they are many other guys out there and left the chat. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

A lot of providers include dick pics, especially if they claim they're big. It's a reasonable request, but full nudes sound like photo hunting.  If you have a pic of yourself in a speedo or something it should be good enough.

As a client, I need to point out that he's right, and there are literally hundreds of alternatives. And if photos aren't verified I'll ask for one. And if a client refuses my request to unlock their gallery, they get blocked.

[Jamie21]

I share a dick pic or other pic if they want one. Clients can also see my pics and a demo video of me on my website. I think it’s fine if they want to see that because it’s a better session if they choose to book knowing what I look like. 

Where I draw the line is multiple requests for pictures via text or WhatsApp. That’s just a picture collector. I tell them if they want more pics they should follow my twitter. They usually go quiet after that. 
 

[PhileasFogg]

The point to me is whether I'm making a decision on current photos or photos from a long distant state of fitness.   Just happened to me a couple weeks ago.   Young, pornstar with vids as recent as several months ago, but completely let himself go in the fitness realm.

Edited to add:   having said that, I've never asked for pictures.   But I have requested a clothed video call as that would tell me all I need to know.

Edited Friday at 08:06 PM by PhileasFogg

[marylander1940]

8 hours ago, socurious said:

How can you tell a real client is really trying to see the product before buying it and not messing with you to try to collect pictures and flake? I have a private gallery but at times some potential clients message me on WhatsApp or text to ask for dick pictures. As a matter of fact, I just had one texting me right now on WhatsApp saying he could host tomorrow and blablabla. I told him I don't share any nudes unless I get a deposit. He ended up telling that they are many other guys out there and left the chat. 

It's a bad business strategy. You have to show the goods!

[socurious]

1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

It's a bad business strategy. You have to show the goods!

Oh hell no. I rather having less clients than showing myself naked on that platform.

[socurious]

5 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I share a dick pic or other pic if they want one. Clients can also see my pics and a demo video of me on my website. I think it’s fine if they want to see that because it’s a better session if they choose to book knowing what I look like. 

Where I draw the line is multiple requests for pictures via text or WhatsApp. That’s just a picture collector. I tell them if they want more pics they should follow my twitter. They usually go quiet after that. 
 

Most of my interactions with people asking for cock pics have been photos collectors. 

[Ali Gator]

This is where the concept of 'business' comes forward, and takes its place front and center.

Providers can't forget that this is a business they have chosen, they have set their prices, and want to be taken as a serious business (and I don't blame them). They want to be respected as a serious business man - and they should. After all, this is their livelihood - not a hobby. They need to build up a clientele - success on their end is to be so busy, their calendar is full. 

Something important they are promoting in their business (aside from their skills) is their physical appearance - their face, their body, and yes, their penis.  It's up to the client to decide whether they want to spend $200+ for a massage with you, or $300+ for an escort experience. The photos will help with the decision. 

A friend of mine is getting married in a few months. He and his girlfriend are at the 'cake' stage of their wedding. They have decided $350 for the cake is within their budget, and they made a list of specialty cake bakers they are interested in. They are not going to spend their $350 on a wedding cake based on a website with photos and good reviews (same with clients of providers). They want to visit the baker in person and sample the cakes (they're not requesting a private audience with the baker and for him / her to bake a cake just for them to sample - they schedule for an afternoon when other couples will attend who are looking for the same thing - so one small layer cake gets sliced up into 8-10 pieces).

And they (and the other couples) have every right to request this, and they should! Of course, they have run into bakers who have outright refused their request (they've been told 'no free samples -I'm not a charity'), so they will be taking their $350 elsewhere. It's a risk some of these bakers are taking, and most likely find themselves on the losing end.

Like the bakers, providers should accommodate the potential client. One photo is enough - multiple photos are a no (and it should be one photo which is sent to everyone, so if they sneakily ask again a few weeks later, they get the same photo you already sent them). 

[socurious]

31 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

This is where the concept of 'business' comes forward, and takes its place front and center.

Providers can't forget that this is a business they have chosen, they have set their prices, and want to be taken as a serious business (and I don't blame them). They want to be respected as a serious business man - and they should. After all, this is their livelihood - not a hobby. They need to build up a clientele - success on their end is to be so busy, their calendar is full. 

Something important they are promoting in their business (aside from their skills) is their physical appearance - their face, their body, and yes, their penis.  It's up to the client to decide whether they want to spend $200+ for a massage with you, or $300+ for an escort experience. The photos will help with the decision. 

A friend of mine is getting married in a few months. He and his girlfriend are at the 'cake' stage of their wedding. They have decided $350 for the cake is within their budget, and they made a list of specialty cake bakers they are interested in. They are not going to spend their $350 on a wedding cake based on a website with photos and good reviews (same with clients of providers). They want to visit the baker in person and sample the cakes (they're not requesting a private audience with the baker and for him / her to bake a cake just for them to sample - they schedule for an afternoon when other couples will attend who are looking for the same thing - so one small layer cake gets sliced up into 8-10 pieces).

And they (and the other couples) have every right to request this, and they should! Of course, they have run into bakers who have outright refused their request (they've been told 'no free samples -I'm not a charity'), so they will be taking their $350 elsewhere. It's a risk some of these bakers are taking, and most likely find themselves on the losing end.

Like the bakers, providers should accommodate the potential client. One photo is enough - multiple photos are a no (and it should be one photo which is sent to everyone, so if they sneakily ask again a few weeks later, they get the same photo you already sent them). 

Great 👏

[liubit]

This is perhaps obvious, but I will chime in. When you share pics on WhatsApp, there is an “Open Only Once” feature which does precisely what it says: the receiving end can open the pic only once, then it disappears. You cannot save such pics or take a screenshot. I find it quite useful, and it might serve your purpose, @socurious  🤷🏻

[Vin Marco]

Existing client I've seen or that I see regularly, no problem, happy to share... an inquiring mind on RM that has seen the multitude of nudes, localized nudes, full mast at attention nudes, it's a "red flag" for me in which case  I kindly say, "if 15 nudes aren't enough, 150 won't be enough"  Most likely I'm dealing ( not for long ) with a tire kicker and or a "pic collector" And this comes from years of experience and collected test market analysis 🧐 📊 📈 😜

[rvwnsd]

A client requesting access to your private pics on RM in advance of booking is reasonable to me. That's why those pics are there. Charging a fee to display your private RM pics to a prospective client is a bad business practice. They are paying a handsome fee, and they want to know what and who they are getting.

Messaging you via text, Whatsapp, etc requesting pics seems a little shady, unless that's how you have been communicating. Even if that's how you have been communicating, I think directing them to your RM private pics and unlocking them are fine. Asking the prospective client for a small deposit to send full nudes via text, Whatsapp, etc, to me, is also OK. You don't know what he intends to do with them and you don't know him. Being compensated will deter some pic collectors from taking the pics and never booking.

 

[Jamie21]

The pic collector Venn diagram circle almost completely covers the sex chat Venn diagram circle in my experience.

They say they’ve seen my ad (and presumably the pics on it) and they are interested in booking but want more information…. “what happens during a session?” (‘we drink tea and play dominoes obviously 🙄)….then they ask something like “how big is it?”…then “can I have a pic”….then the sex chat starts “what will you do to me…. I’m very tight, do you like tight?”…and they want more pics. I say “if you want to book a session please let me know” and close it down because this chat is going nowhere.

They always come back with “definitely going to book once I sort out my calendar or once I get paid etc”. That means he’s never going to book and once he’s finished wanking over the sex chat and pics he’ll forget about it until next time he’s horny and he contacts me again (often months later having forgotten the first time!). 

Dealing with enquiries is just part of the business. It’s fine, many are genuine and turn into great regular clients. I think some clients ask these questions to see what kind of person you are. If you’re irritated by a few questions, want payment to send a pic, don’t want to engage with someone who genuinely seems to be seeking information about booking (especially if all of this hiring thing is new to them), then it tells them you’re probably not going to be a great experience.

I’m ok for potential clients to know as much about what I’m like as possible because if they then choose me I know it will be a great experience for them (and therefore for me too). 

[marylander1940]

13 hours ago, socurious said:

Oh hell no. I rather having less clients than showing myself naked on that platform.

and less reviews.

[Thomas_Belgium]

This is probably one of the reasons providers can link their OF on  Hunqz (escort site from Romeo.com).

For example:

https://www.romeo.com/hunq/HAIRY_ALEXIS_XL

 

Edited Saturday at 02:28 PM by Thomas_Belgium
added example

[Simon Suraci]

I won’t charge a fee to view nudes. Plenty of other guys will share theirs freely, so you’re turning away quite a lot of potential business.

The pay wall issue is not just about money; it’s about convenience. The client wants to know: How easy is this provider to work with? They also want to know what they’re getting, and if they can’t, they wonder what the provider feels he has to hide.

At the same time, if the client can’t ascertain if they want to hire me with a few pictures of my whole body from front to back, including being hard, etc. I know from experience they’re only looking to waste my time getting some form of free fantasy entertainment.

Same goes for extended detailed discussions about the session and what will happen “what will you do to me?”, “tell me more”, etc. I have to cut those off. I don’t mind confirming what I am able and willing to provide for the client, but I’m not a free phone sex / sexting service. 

[polythome]

I just got told off by a provider (who has multiple accounts at Hunqz btw) that I was "photo shopping" 🛒 when all I wanted to ask for was a face shot. In both accounts, which I didn't necessarily know were both his, he only had body shots with his dick, all with blurred out faces.

I think it's not an unreasonable request when setting up appointments to ask for that and if he refused, I may still have been ok working with the info I had.

However, I think during the inquiry phase, it's clear that clients would want to compare what's available, who would actually answer etc. and can't just message 1 provider at a time - also since most providers scoff at doing this ahead of time. Otherwise, happy to set this up like hotel bookings where you do it weeks in advance. Like in regular business, we survey what's in the market and decide on what's best on offer.

[nate_sf]

I have a bunch of nude photos of myself on my RM profile and other places, so am coming from a different place than someone who is protective about sharing images of themselves naked. But personally I don't see the big deal of sending a photo to a pic collector, provided they don't follow up with further requests or the chat nonsense other providers here have described. I know some guys will send photos that only show from the neck down, and I think that's a decent compromise. That won't be that interesting to a pic collector, and if they ask for a full body and face photo is reasonable to say no.

But I'll add that at least from my experience, WhatsApp has way more flakes and scammers, at least here in the US. The only legit contacts I get through WhatsApp is from international clients, and those are easy enough to sort out as legit (or not) after a few exchanges. Overseas is another matter, as pretty much all my communications when traveling abroad are through WhatsApp, and that makes sense. But here in the US, my red flag is already at flying at half mast for anything coming through WhatsApp.

[Jamie21]

1 hour ago, polythome said:

I just got told off by a provider (who has multiple accounts at Hunqz btw) that I was "photo shopping" 🛒 when all I wanted to ask for was a face shot.

Seems a bit difficult of him! If someone asks me for a face pic I’m ok to share it, but my public pictures on my advertising don’t show my face. For some clients it’s important so they’ll ask but in my experience most are ok with making decisions based on the pics or videos on my advertising or website. 

[Ali Gator]

I'm not a subscriber to RM. In the past I've asked a provider (who I've hired) for access to his nude photos on the site - which he obliged by giving me the passcode. However, I still couldn't access the photos because I'm not a paid subscriber on the site. Any other way around this ? 

[DamizzonNYC]

This is a funny one for me, because nude photo modeling was my original gateway to sex work.  So I definitely became comfortable being widely naked on the internet before I seriously pursued escorting.  So I come to assume that most men who inquire have already seen everything.  
 

I realize I’m coming from a certain specific position here, but it’s hard to relate to being squeamish about sharing nudes. 

[BaronArtz]

I do from time to time get a paid membership on rentmasseur.  Many, if not most, of the profiles include nude pictures in their private galleries.  And those are masseur profiles.  They could be headless nudes, but still.  I don't understand what the big deal is about sharing nude pictures.  It is part of doing business.

[misterhumphries]

On 9/14/2024 at 9:19 AM, marylander1940 said:

and less reviews.

Grammar police alert: The word is "FEWER" reviews and clients.

[AtlTopGuy]

So if a provider has limited pictures on their profile (and or none of his face) but has pictures that are locked behind the RM paywall, I will typically be blunt and say "I dont have access to the RM private pics, would you share them with me" or I may ask "are there other pics you share".  Neither way is a demand or expectation.  75% of providers will send a pic or two or a link to some other site with pics.  A few refuse or demand a payment.  Then based on what I see or don't see I make a decision to meet up or not.    No fights...no drama.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I am a paid client subscriber on RentMen. I can leave reviews, but can't see all of a provider's photos - some are still locked and require me to ask the provider to unlock.

That's why I'm not impressed by providers who refuse to unlock - they can clearly see I'm a paid member and have money in the game, yet they refuse to show any details.