Why do escorts escort?

[marylander1940]

Why do escorts escort?

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

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Why do I do sex work? Well it’s partly for the money of course, and because I like the flexibility of it but it’s also because it meets a need for me. Not for sex (tbh it rather ruins your sex life) but it meets other needs that go beyond the need to earn an income. Things to do with identity and being desired etc. So in that sense my client has a great deal of power over me even though he’s the one hiring me. 
 

Inspired by this wonderful post by @Jamie21 !

[moonlight]

To the extent that the motivation is financial, I find myself wondering just how rewarding it is for the average provider who derives most of their income from this work. Among that group, any guesses as to what the median income might be? 90th percentile? Client hours per week?

Maybe an indecent question. And sorry if veering off topic. Just something I ponder when asking the question in the title. Given high overhead expenses and the unique challenges of the work, it's actually hard for me to imagine they're making "enough" to make it worth it. Which is one reason I never balk at fees.

Edited yesterday at 02:24 AM by moonlight

[blck37]

5 minutes ago, moonlight said:

To the extent that the motivation is financial, I find myself wondering just how rewarding it is for the average provider who derives most of their income from this work. Among that group, any guesses as to what the median income might be? 90th percentile? Client hours per week?

Maybe an indecent question. And sorry if veering off topic. Just something I ponder when asking the question in the title. Given high overhead expenses and the unique challenges of the work, it's actually hard for me to imagine they're making "enough" to make it worth it. Which is one reason I never balk at fees.

Not sure bout median income....but i know of a provider who own 2 apartment units, prolly makes ~50k/ month excluding special bookings eg days/ week long trip. 

[+ ThroatCummer]

I can tell you about three: 

1. Immigrant. He does it as a way to supplement his income for family purposes. All of his extra money goes back overseas to his family and he recently paid in cash for a huge 4 bedroom house for his mother and his brothers and sister in his home country. 

2. Born and raised citizen. He has a very, very good government job with a big salary and benefits and a pension. He does it as a way to supplement his income to travel the world and buy those little "extras" that even a job like his full-time job would never allow. Think: second vacation home, bigger retirement nest egg, and a boat. 

3. Immigrant. He does it to work less hours.  He had regular average paying jobs here in the US, but was only getting by after paying all his bills and expenses in a high cost of living city, but it required busting his ass working on his feet more than 60 hours per week. Escorting allows him to match the salary of his legit work but only put in a fraction of the hours he would otherwise have to work, thus more free time to pursue hobbies and non-work stuff. Why work 5-6 days a week for 10 hours a day when you can work 2-3 days a week for 4-6 hours a day? 

All three of them don't "need" this type of work so they can be very picky about the clients they engage since they have non-escort options to make money and sustain their living. For all three, I would consider them "people pleaser" types who truly get off on making others happy and building connections. That makes all of them really, really phenomenal escorts.

That help?

Edited yesterday at 09:55 AM by ThroatCummer

[marylander1940]

11 hours ago, moonlight said:

To the extent that the motivation is financial, I find myself wondering just how rewarding it is for the average provider who derives most of their income from this work. Among that group, any guesses as to what the median income might be? 90th percentile? Client hours per week?

Maybe an indecent question. And sorry if veering off topic. Just something I ponder when asking the question in the title. Given high overhead expenses and the unique challenges of the work, it's actually hard for me to imagine they're making "enough" to make it worth it. Which is one reason I never balk at fees.

Obviously depends on how he looks, what he's willing to do with clients (that in an overwhelming percentage are men he's attracted to) and how competitive his market is.

Obviously some small and medium cities have no choices because there's simply no market for a local to thrive.

I've been hiring a couple of guys for over 20 years and they say in the early 2000 things were way less competitive. 

Back to subject financial reward is the main reason most guys do it but not anybody is cut off for the job and many would prefer any other kind of job.

 

Edited yesterday at 01:26 PM by marylander1940

[cany10011]

Most I know are either students earning pocket money.One is a law student and he does this to pay for living in NYC.  I'm one of his regulars and see him weekly and he gets about 2K from me per month. Another works in finance (just starting out) and he gets 3K from me per month and it supplements his travel budget. Everyone has different reasons. I don't know any real professionals who do this as their sole income source. 

[robberbaron4u]

Sundry reasons: money, validation that the escort is "desirable" in that another man will pay to have his company, physical beauty, personal charm and sexual prowess are the only assets the escort has to exploit..

[maninsoma]

I find the speculation about income level interesting. Given my limited sample (escorts I knew/know well enough to know what their income was/is), I think the reality is that some guys don't make all that much money, some guys are able to make enough that they are solidly upper middle class (and maybe even become "rich" due to wise investments) and then there's a lot in the middle.  A lot of careers/jobs result in people working for vastly different wages.  Some of that difference is due to luck (right place, right time), but a lot of it is due to what an individual brings to the work.  In terms of escorts, I think the principal qualities that result in a higher income are looks, personality and business acumen. 

[NJF]

16 hours ago, blck37 said:

Not sure bout median income....but i know of a provider who own 2 apartment units, prolly makes ~50k/ month excluding special bookings eg days/ week long trip. 

Not sure that is believable lol. Let’s just say the hourly rate is $500, 100 hourly appointments are needed to generate 50k per month. 3.3 appointments per day for 30 days. He got super stamina 😂 

[+ ThroatCummer]

37 minutes ago, NJF said:

Not sure that is believable lol. Let’s just say the hourly rate is $500, 100 hourly appointments are needed to generate 50k per month. 3.3 appointments per day for 30 days. He got super stamina 😂 

You're not thinking about intangibles. There are plenty of escorts out there who receive weekly or monthly deposits in their bank accounts just for texting and talking and sharing pictures of their daily life.

Don't underestimate the number of people will pay to have a pretend boyfriend. 

[SamRockdale]

I recently graduated with an engineering degree from a credited university. The job market is so tough right now though that this is my only job right now. While I would love to work in my field eventually, I was tired of waiting for corporations to hire me and decided to take matters into my own hands. I love my regulars and would still continue seeing them when this becomes a secondary job for me just because of the satisfaction of caring and investing in my them.

[SamRockdale]

6 hours ago, cany10011 said:

Most I know are either students earning pocket money.One is a law student and he does this to pay for living in NYC.  I'm one of his regulars and see him weekly and he gets about 2K from me per month. Another works in finance (just starting out) and he gets 3K from me per month and it supplements his travel budget. Everyone has different reasons. I don't know any real professionals who do this as their sole income source. 

I hope one day I will find regulars who desire to invest in me like this. I dream of moving to NYC and would definitely needed the support if I ever did.

[cany10011]

13 minutes ago, SamRockdale said:

I hope one day I will find regulars who desire to invest in me like this. I dream of moving to NYC and would definitely needed the support if I ever did.

Pretty confident you will not be lacking suitors. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

Money is always the reason, but I'm not as optimistic as to the goals.

One mentioned immigrants. I know one. Was considered highly desirable 5 years ago. Is now coming to terms with his: non-fluent English, no education beyond 8th grade from some South American country, and an aversion to both working for others and going to school. Quit a free English course because he "got tired of it."

Another mention is freedom. Met quite a few men who want that. Quite a few have a "I'll do what I want" attitude, and have zero respect for authority or prudence.

In other words, many guys escort because they can't hold a job. That's a very dangerous path. I knew kids in my neighborhood like that. The ones who took drugs  never survived their 20s, and I'm just starting to get funeral invites for the ones who turned to alcohol.

 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

4 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Money is always the reason, but I'm not as optimistic as to the goals.

One mentioned immigrants. I know one. Was considered highly desirable 5 years ago. Is now coming to terms with his: non-fluent English, no education beyond 8th grade from some South American country, and an aversion to both working for others and going to school. Quit a free English course because he "got tired of it."

Another mention is freedom. Met quite a few men who want that. Quite a few have a "I'll do what I want" attitude, and have zero respect for authority or prudence.

In other words, many guys escort because they can't hold a job. That's a very dangerous path. I knew kids in my neighborhood like that. The ones who took drugs  never survived their 20s, and I'm just starting to get funeral invites for the ones who turned to alcohol.

 

It's a hard way to make an easy living.

[blck37]

8 hours ago, NJF said:

Not sure that is believable lol. Let’s just say the hourly rate is $500, 100 hourly appointments are needed to generate 50k per month. 3.3 appointments per day for 30 days. He got super stamina 😂 

Some would pay for sext or companionship. His best client is a sexter only client...never meet irl for sex.

Lets not forget some clients would hire multiple hours at a time. I tend to believe him on account of his lifestyle. 

Edited 12 hours ago by blck37

[blck37]

5 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Money is always the reason, but I'm not as optimistic as to the goals.

One mentioned immigrants. I know one. Was considered highly desirable 5 years ago. Is now coming to terms with his: non-fluent English, no education beyond 8th grade from some South American country, and an aversion to both working for others and going to school. Quit a free English course because he "got tired of it."

Another mention is freedom. Met quite a few men who want that. Quite a few have a "I'll do what I want" attitude, and have zero respect for authority or prudence.

In other words, many guys escort because they can't hold a job. That's a very dangerous path. I knew kids in my neighborhood like that. The ones who took drugs  never survived their 20s, and I'm just starting to get funeral invites for the ones who turned to alcohol.

 

One once said because he likes expensive lifestyle, he is good at sex, freedom comes with the job, branded freebies from clients and the ppl he admires would pay him big bucks for his time......he would never achieve any of the aforesaid if he were to stay a corporate man.

Though I agree, longevity is a real issue if they dont invest well. Market is very saturated, there will always be a new hot guy around the corner. Key is finding a client who is deluded enough to believe provider he is seeing is in love with him, and willing to spend endless $$$.

[pubic_assistance]

On 9/17/2024 at 5:16 PM, marylander1940 said:

Why do escorts escort?

I had a friend (who's since passed) who escorted in his youth. He wasnt gay but would often accept cash (and drugs) from men who performed oral sex on him.

I asked him once how he stayed hard if he wasn't physically attracted to men.

His answer was "power".

The turn on was the power.of knowing that someone desires you so much and finds you so attractive that they will PAY you for YOU to get off.

[marylander1940]

3 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I had a friend (who's since passed) who escorted in his youth. He wasnt gay but would often accept cash (and drugs) from men who performed oral sex on him.

I asked him once how he stayed hard if he wasn't physically attracted to men.

His answer was "power".

The turn on was the power.of knowing that someone desires you so much and finds you so attractive that they will PAY you for YOU to get off.

No doubt!

There's power and personal pride in having someone pay you to have sex with him. Even folks who in this forum constantly refer to escorts as "whores" know those whores have sex for free with other young in shape men but not with their clients. 

I do understand why some think having $200-$300 extra to spare gives them power over others... momentarily at least.

[PileDriver]

I have a few regulars here in nyc. all are hypersexual and very outgoing and adventurous. some are in long term relationships. one has a trust fund. all of them just enjoy sex. period. i sometimes get my favorites together and it is just pure fun and pleasure. my core regulars are all sapiosexuals. and yes for some of them the money helps. for others like the trust find guy he keeps his rate low because he doesn't need the money. and my two massage therapists the same. the massage therapist who is older than me (in my 60's) just enjoys the sex with me. and foreplay is often intense discussions of politics and culture. the other massage guy who is substantially younger than me and is married to a guy just enjoys discussing art, gardening, culture, and i've mentored him a bit about successful long term relationships...and we get off together just for fun and respect. and some of my regulars i have no idea about their personal lives but that are sweet and playful and can laugh but most importantly are also hypersexual and eager...

[Rod Hagen]

On 9/17/2024 at 2:17 PM, marylander1940 said:

Inspired by this wonderful post by @Jamie21 !

that link just takes me to his profile.  Please post a link to the message.  Thanks! 

[Rod Hagen]

On 9/18/2024 at 7:25 AM, robberbaron4u said:

Sundry reasons: money, validation that the escort is "desirable" in that another man will pay to have his company, physical beauty, personal charm and sexual prowess are the only assets the escort has to exploit..

Spot on.  "Sundry"  reminds me of the pertinent story Stephen Fry told of Gore Vidal:

"Can you remember a good Gore Vidal story? The best Gore Vidal story I have you’ll probably find unprintable, but it amuses me. I was visiting him in America at one point, and he was coming to England. He said, “I’m debating whether to stay at Claridge’s or the Savoy,” and I said, “The Savoy’s a bit down-at-heel at the moment.” He said: “Yes, I’d heard that. I think I will make it Claridge’s. I am fond of the Savoy, however, for a very particular reason — it’s a literary reason.” So I said: “Oh, is that because of Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald staying there in the good old days? Or because Oscar Wilde was there in the 1890s?” He said: “No, no. It’s far more literary than that.” He said: “I was there, oh, some years ago now, and I picked up the Yellow Pages and let my fingers do the walking, as the advertisement said, and found an agency. I thought, Oh, hello, here we go, and the agency duly were obliging and sent a young man to see me in the suite. We had agreed on a sum on the telephone, and we got down to it. At one point, he said, ‘I don’t do that.’ And I said: ‘Don’t be absurd. Of course you do.’ So all went perfectly well, and then I gave him his 30 pounds, and he said, ‘It’s got to be an extra 30.’ I said, ‘I agreed on a price with the agency, and I don’t propose to diverge from it now.’ And he started cutting up rough. He threw an ashtray at my head, which I had to duck to avoid, and so I pressed the bell, which was very handily placed in the wall above the head of the bed. In due course, a floor manager in a swallowtail coat and striped trousers appeared. I said: ‘Could you please remove this young man? He’s being a thoroughgoing nuisance.’ And the young man said, ‘He owes me an extra 30 quid.’ Then the floor manager said, ‘You come with me, young sir,’ and he got rid of the gentleman and I thought no more about it. But two days later I was checking out, and as I was paying the bill, I saw that at the foot of the column of figures it said, ‘Sundries: 30 pound.’ I thought the use of the word ‘sundries’ was inspired, and I have been fond of the Savoy ever since.”³

[marylander1940]

51 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said:

that link just takes me to his profile.  Please post a link to the message.  Thanks! 

The post by @Jamie21 is quoted in that message. 

 

On 9/17/2024 at 5:17 PM, marylander1940 said:

Inspired by this wonderful post by @Jamie21 !

Here's the quoted post again: 

On 9/17/2024 at 3:44 PM, Jamie21 said:

I don’t necessarily see it as a ‘they versus us’ binary power dynamic. It’s much more subtle than that. There’s a mutual dependence.

Why do I do sex work? Well it’s partly for the money of course, and because I like the flexibility of it but it’s also because it meets a need for me. Not for sex (tbh it rather ruins your sex life) but it meets other needs that go beyond the need to earn an income. Things to do with identity and being desired etc. So in that sense my client has a great deal of power over me even though he’s the one hiring me. 
 

 

Edited 43 minutes ago by marylander1940

[Rod Hagen]

13 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

The post by @Jamie21 is quoted in that message. 

 

Here's the quoted post again: 

 

I'm too out of touch to pick an emoji indicating embarrassment, so I'll just say "thank you, I'm so embarrassed."  

 

Oh, wait, where is THAT thread though, if someone can find it, because I want to engage with Jamie over this "Not for sex (tbh it rather ruins your sex life)" (WTHeck?!).  THANKS!

Edited 29 minutes ago by Rod Hagen