Different Rates for Different Clients

[+ DrownedBoy]

My regulars locked my price in (the exception was later fired for unrelated reasons).

For my longest time regular, who I've seen for 8 years, I just gave him a raise after the pandemic inflation because he drives and gas went up. But if he's near me for something else, he'll text and offer a discount.

Edited October 9 by DrownedBoy
Inflation

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

If you're a pain in the ass and I can make it plausible that you're the greatest thing since sliced bread, you're likely getting hit with a pain in the ass tax.

I don't really give a shit about someone's physical appearance as long as their hygiene is solid.

Where I draw the line is asking myself how well will we get along when we're clothed.

That's what can be the real work.  When it's not, it's serendipity.

 

[ApexNomad]

8 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

If you're a pain in the ass and I can make it plausible that you're the greatest thing since sliced bread, you're likely getting hit with a pain in the ass tax.

I don't really give a shit about someone's physical appearance as long as their hygiene is solid.

Where I draw the line is asking myself how well will we get along when we're clothed.

That's what can be the real work.  When it's not, it's serendipity.

 

The hygiene issue amazes me. For some, this isn’t cheap. Do you encounter this issue often with your clients? As a top, is it douching mostly or just all-around basic hygiene: oral, clothes, body odor?

I’ve only had a couple of poor hygiene issues with providers themselves - half of them who knew right away when they arrived and asked if they could shower. Only a few were oblivious and I asked them to shower and brush their teeth (I bring spare tooth brushes). 

[Vin Marco]

11 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

I don't really give a shit about someone's physical appearance as long as their hygiene is solid.

Where I draw the line is asking myself how well will we get along when we're clothed.

That's what can be the real work.  When it's not, it's serendipity.

 

Could not have said that better! Bravo 👏🏽 

Talk about what could be a career suicide thread.... sheesh 😵‍💫

[+ DrownedBoy]

5 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

The hygiene issue amazes me. For some, this isn’t cheap. Do you encounter this issue often with your clients? As a top, is it douching mostly or just all-around basic hygiene: oral, clothes, body odor?

I’ve only had a couple of poor hygiene issues with providers themselves - half of them who knew right away when they arrived and asked if they could shower. Only a few were oblivious and I asked them to shower and brush their teeth (I bring spare tooth brushes). 

Some people's concept of hygiene continues to disgust me.

A regular of mine had a client who has eating Doritos. When the regular asked that client to at least use mouthwash, he got offended!

[marylander1940]

On 10/9/2024 at 9:56 AM, pubic_assistance said:

I don't think it's a mark it up / mark it down sale-price situation as much as they want your business MORE when you're an easy lay. So it's an incentive price for the 40 year old fit daddy and an extra fee for enduring the 68 year old sweaty whale with saggy balls...

I didn't collect any photographic evidence here on C.o.M. but I do pay attention to some of the gentlemen here. Age and physical condition are sometimes shared...so I have a visual picture in my mind of a few people who like the same providers that I like.

I think having"saggy balls" is the least of the concerns....

[Vin Marco]

26 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

A regular of mine had a client who has eating Doritos. When the regular asked that client to at least use mouthwash, he got offended!

Delivery is everything...  when I give constructive criticism I always Include "it would be even better if..."  ( E B I ) it helps to not  put folks in a defensive mode... or there's always: 

[ApexNomad]

50 minutes ago, Vin Marco said:

Delivery is everything...  when I give constructive criticism I always Include "it would be even better if..."  ( E B I ) it helps to not  put folks in a defensive mode... or there's always: 

Very true! When I ask a provider to shower, I usually offer to join them, and they seem to enjoy that—it’s said with and always met with a smile. They might think it’s overkill since my hair is usually still damp from showering before they arrive, but I want us to feel comfortable.

[Vin Marco]

15 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

Very true! When I ask a provider to shower, I usually offer to join them, and they seem to enjoy that—it’s said with and always met with a smile. They might think it’s overkill since my hair is usually still damp from showering before they arrive, but I want us to feel comfortable.

You're so good! 😊 👏🏽 Showers almost always add even more fun!  

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

14 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

The hygiene issue amazes me. For some, this isn’t cheap. Do you encounter this issue often with your clients? As a top, is it douching mostly or just all-around basic hygiene: oral, clothes, body odor?

I’ve only had a couple of poor hygiene issues with providers themselves - half of them who knew right away when they arrived and asked if they could shower. Only a few were oblivious and I asked them to shower and brush their teeth (I bring spare tooth brushes). 

Some bottoms think they're ready....  And they're not.

They don't have the right diet, supplements or pre-game ritual.  It is what it is.

I mostly see guys on a longer-term timeframe, so I have the luxury of having a sitdown and giving them some pointers.

It might not always help me in the immediate, but it helps them moving forward with other people.  

That's a win to me.

[rvwnsd]

I've been charged less than the advertised rate for a variety of reasons, such as:

• Being "grandfathered in" to a rate when a guy raises them.
• The provider enjoyed spending time with me, and I booked for more than one hour
• I'm not a creepy, degrading, asshole (his words, not mine)
• My communications are clear, concise, and strike the right tone (I've heard this a lot)
• I treat the provider as the human being they are, not as an object ordered from Aazon 

I used to hire a guy to suck him, worship his muscles, and me rim him. Also swallowed his cum. He charged me his massage rate because it was me doing all the work (which was more than fine with me!) Guess it was an "enjoyment benefit."

[+ nycman]

On 10/10/2024 at 4:09 PM, Vin Marco said:

Delivery is everything

So fucking true.

I’ve talked about it before, but when I first started hiring there was a smoking hot Brazilian escort in New York City that I used to see regularly. At the time I suffered from hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating). I always arrive to my appointments firstly showered, but what can I say, when you’re an in shape 30-year-old pounding out the hottest piece of Brazilian ass you’ve ever seen for two hours straight, things can get a little "musky".

Whenever it got to be too much, he’d pat me on the ass and say "hit the showers champ". It was always said in a playful and fun manner. I’d happily bounced across the room and into the shower, not even mildly offended. And two minutes later, we’d be fucking like animals again. If he’d made a face or said something stupid like "Jesus Christ you fucking stink" I’m sure my reaction would’ve been much different. He was a true pro in every aspect. 

For the record, anyone out there who suffers from the same problem, Botox in the armpits is the answer. After years of suffering, now I don’t even have to use deodorant and I can easily run a 10k, without any sweating or smell whatsoever. I’ve even got my trainer trained to tell me, "it’s time for your shots, bro" whatever the shots start wearing off. Because honestly, I can’t always tell at first. 

And yes, there are some men who are mad that the "musk" is gone. You can’t please everyone!

Edited October 11 by nycman

[ApexNomad]

18 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Some bottoms think they're ready....  And they're not.

They don't have the right diet, supplements or pre-game ritual.  It is what it is.

I mostly see guys on a longer-term timeframe, so I have the luxury of having a sitdown and giving them some pointers.

It might not always help me in the immediate, but it helps them moving forward with other people.  

That's a win to me.

That’s great that you give pointers! I’m a man of a certain age—could you share what supplements you recommend? I might add them to what I’m already taking. Thanks!

[ApexNomad]

15 hours ago, nycman said:

So fucking true.

I’ve talked about it before, but when I first started hiring there was a smoking hot Brazilian escort in New York City that I used to see regularly. At the time I suffered from hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating). I always arrive to my appointments firstly showered, but what can I say, when you’re an in shape 30-year-old pounding out the hottest piece of Brazilian ass you’ve ever seen for two hours straight, things can get a little "musky".

Whenever it got to be too much, he’d pat me on the ass and say "hit the showers champ". It was always said in a playful and fun manner. I’d happily bounced across the room and into the shower, not even mildly offended. And two minutes later, we’d be fucking like animals again. If he’d made a face or said something stupid like "Jesus Christ you fucking stink" I’m sure my reaction would’ve been much different. He was a true pro in every aspect. 

For the record, anyone out there who suffers from the same problem, Botox in the armpits is the answer. After years of suffering, now I don’t even have to use deodorant and I can easily run a 10k, without any sweating or smell whatsoever. I’ve even got my trainer trained to tell me, "it’s time for your shots, bro" whatever the shots start wearing off. Because honestly, I can’t always tell at first. 

And yes, there are some men who are mad that the "musk" is gone. You can’t please everyone!

It’s all about the guy and the moment. I love some musk and sweat during sex; it adds to the heat! 😉 

[misterhumphries]

On 10/10/2024 at 8:28 AM, ApexNomad said:

The hygiene issue amazes me. For some, this isn’t cheap. Do you encounter this issue often with your clients? As a top, is it douching mostly or just all-around basic hygiene: oral, clothes, body odor?

I’ve only had a couple of poor hygiene issues with providers themselves - half of them who knew right away when they arrived and asked if they could shower. Only a few were oblivious and I asked them to shower and brush their teeth (I bring spare tooth brushes). 

"... asked if they could shower"?

You're better than me. My home is not an annex of the YMCA. I expect an escort to arrive shaved, bathed, and presentable. And a toothbrush???!

I do not pay hundreds of dollars for a fixer-upper.

Now there was one amateur bodybuilder with a massive chest and bodacious nips who I insisted be a little funky when we get together. I enjoyed smelling like him for a while after a session....

Edited October 11 by misterhumphries

[ApexNomad]

3 minutes ago, misterhumphries said:

"... asked if they could shower"?

You're better than me. My home is not an annex of the YMCA. I expect an escort to arrive shaved, bathed, and presentable. And a toothbrush???!

I do not pay hundreds of dollars for a fixer-upper.

Now there was one amateur bodybuilder with a massive chest and bodacious nips who I insisted be a little funky when we get together. I enjoyed smelling like him for a while after a session....

I have the same expectations. When they arrive not quite right, I’ll try a few different ways to make it work because I’ve made arrangements, and it’s my time and money too. I can tolerate a lot and will do what it takes to ensure we’re both comfortable and maintain that connection. But if the provider isn’t engaged or present or doesn’t make me the center of his attention (as he is to me!), I’m done. That’s my dealbreaker. I can’t go back from that.

[Thelatin]

Gross.

[ShortCutie7]

On 10/10/2024 at 9:28 AM, ApexNomad said:

The hygiene issue amazes me. For some, this isn’t cheap. Do you encounter this issue often with your clients? As a top, is it douching mostly or just all-around basic hygiene: oral, clothes, body odor?

I’ve only had a couple of poor hygiene issues with providers themselves - half of them who knew right away when they arrived and asked if they could shower. Only a few were oblivious and I asked them to shower and brush their teeth (I bring spare tooth brushes). 

People don’t always have control over these things. For example, if I’m going to an appointment after work, it’s not physically possible to be shower-fresh upon arrival.  That said, I would absolutely not be offended if asked to shower (and may even request one if available).

Anyway, I do often wonder if the rates I get quoted are lower or higher due to my stats, but unfortunately it’s nearly impossible to gauge if I am a provider’s “type”, which would make for a better session, anyway.

 

[ApexNomad]

5 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

People don’t always have control over these things. For example, if I’m going to an appointment after work, it’s not physically possible to be shower-fresh upon arrival.  That said, I would absolutely not be offended if asked to shower (and may even request one if available).

Anyway, I do often wonder if the rates I get quoted are lower or higher due to my stats, but unfortunately it’s nearly impossible to gauge if I am a provider’s “type”, which would make for a better session, anyway.

 

You’re right—we don’t always have control over that. I travel a lot, so most of my appointments tend to be outcall/hotel.

As for rates based on stats, I don’t know. You want to believe deep down that it shouldn’t matter, and these are professionals, so as long as you’re nice and clean, it should be fine. I’m hiring them, so there’s something about them they already know they’re my type.

Over the years, what I do know is this: it’s almost always worked for me, and based on talks—three things: First, showing up!! If you show up, a provider already loves you. It shows that you were serious in the communication, they’re going to get paid, and it happened! That’s more than half the battle. Second, smile! For me, I smile. A lot! Part nerves, part I’m genuinely happy to see them, part I’m excited. Providers have told me many times they really like that and it helps set a positive tone for the session. I’m respectful and not a dbag. Third, I’m clean! Top to bottom, I’m thoroughly clean. I take this up a notch because it makes ME calm and helps ME relax. I’m really able to focus on them and the experience, not wondering whether my breath stinks or if I’m ripe. 

[BonVivant]

Well…it’s a classic business model. As old as time. Some get preferred pricing. Some don’t. But why? Facts & circumstances. 

[Jamie21]

On 10/12/2024 at 12:34 AM, misterhumphries said:

"... asked if they could shower"?

You're better than me. My home is not an annex of the YMCA. I expect an escort to arrive shaved, bathed, and presentable. And a toothbrush???!

I do not pay hundreds of dollars for a fixer-upper.

Now there was one amateur bodybuilder with a massive chest and bodacious nips who I insisted be a little funky when we get together. I enjoyed smelling like him for a while after a session....

Amazed that some guys don’t have a toothbrush etc. I carry one around. I’ve got my kit with me - toothbrush, mouthwash, wipes, massage oil, lube, douche bulb etc… Sometimes clients book at short notice “hi I’m staying at xxx and looking for a massage this afternoon etc”. If I’m out in town then I can accept the booking. There’s always somewhere at their hotel you can freshen up before meeting them. 

Having said that a few clients like me to not have showered beforehand and to be ‘fresh from the gym’. None have ever said ‘oh and eat onions or garlic and don’t brush your teeth’ though! 
 

On 10/11/2024 at 4:58 AM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Some bottoms think they're ready....  And they're not.

They don't have the right diet, supplements or pre-game ritual.  It is what it is.

I mostly see guys on a longer-term timeframe, so I have the luxury of having a sitdown and giving them some pointers.

It might not always help me in the immediate, but it helps them moving forward with other people.  

That's a win to me.

I can live with that because I’m sure they tried. I just clean off and don’t make a big deal about it. There’s been occasions when I’ve bottomed and not felt completely confident about things…it’s a relief to see he’s not especially large 😂…so one can emphasise when slight mishaps occur.

I think advice on preparation for inexperienced guys is a great service. No one seems to ask how should they prepare though. I once saw a client who had only just finished douching as I arrived (at his apartment). Things got predictably messy so he broke off mid session to douche some more, but it didn’t help. I had to advise him to prepare much earlier, and let things settle down. 
 

[ICTJOCK]

I have a flat rate I charge clients,  but I add extra for travel to them  (beyond the metro area).   I think there could be things added for non "customary"  service.... something above and beyond.    I do think that if a provider charged a "different rate"  for various clients,  it would need to be based on some logic and reason... and be articulated to clients.

[LookingAround]

On 10/7/2024 at 10:27 PM, pubic_assistance said:

No. Unlike many people here, I have no problem providing photos of myself before a meet.

Even when I initially reach-out I say I am a "53 y.o.athletic/healthy married bi male". That description often leads to being quoted a reasonable rate and sometimes launches a request for photos. That further gets me a better rate, becasue I don't mind sharing a photo. They sent me theirs. Why not send my own.

That's not exactly Sir Lancelot territory. Hard to see how that demographic earns you an appreciable discount but whatever you say lol 

Are you saying 53 is considered young?

Do you think "bi" makes you more appealing in some way?

Healthy (as if a gay man wouldn't be?

Married is in some way a fetish?

Not quite getting your angle. Great you consider yourself fit and I know you think everyone else here is "old and fat" (you've said so countless times) but you might be shocked many are younger than you and probably a lot more built. You might wanna replace your stereotype of the average member here compared to you because the reality might be different. Rates as others have said also sometimes are based on personality and on that I won't comment further out of respect. 

Edited October 15 by LookingAround

[Simon Suraci]

This is why I don’t feel the need to charge differently based on client looks, age, fitness, etc: Last night….

Client: how do you get hard for unattractive men like me?

Me: I’m a professional.

Client: Good answer.

[cany10011]

On 10/10/2024 at 3:37 PM, DrownedBoy said:

Some people's concept of hygiene continues to disgust me.

A regular of mine had a client who has eating Doritos. When the regular asked that client to at least use mouthwash, he got offended!

I can’t imagine kissing someone who just ate Cheetos. I love Cheetos and only eat them when using chopsticks so i don’t dirty my fingers.