TRAVELLING WITH ESCORTS

[Guest EastWest Coast]

SDMuscl and Johnny:

 

I agree with you both. San Diego, while beautiful, is not as much of a party town as East Coasters think it is. (People who haven't been here tend to think of the city as Pacific Beach in August; not I-15 at rush hour.) But it's a great town nonetheless.

 

And, Johnny, as you note, I wouldn't spend $1000 a day to have an escort accompany me here from the East, although in fairness, nobody has directly asked me that. Then there is the added responsibility of having to entertain somebody day after day. There are only so many times you can to to the San Diego Zoo!

[Traveller]

SD is great if you're under 22 or over 65. There's a reason it's the most Republican big city in the USA. Was out there for Pride a year ago July. Chips and Blacks Beach were fun one day, and the zoo party was kinda different. But just try hiring an escort in that city. Two or three over four days, and a lot of work to get very mediocre quality. But it really is a very pretty city.

 

Later.

[marc anthony]

Well guys... to each his own, I guess. I am sure I won't ever convince to give the travel with escort thing a try. All I can tell you is that some of my best times with escorts have been travel times. It is true, that in all cases, I had known the escort from previous meetings, and we knew that we "clicked". And in all cases, the fee was negotiated to be fair to both parties. And after that, we had a phenomenol time in a destination that we both liked, did multiple fun activities like shows, tours, and the like, and had some kind of sexual activity (sometimes it was only cuddling as at my age, topping a cute twinky boy 5 times a day is out of the question) before dinner, late at night, first thing in the morning, and whenever the urge hit us. And the best thing is having one of your favorite boys to yourself in your bed night after night to snuggle next to after great sex and and hard days funning! Like the mastercard commercial says.... PRICELESS! (although the price can be actually quite affordable if you negotiate prudently LOL)

[Guest cp8036]

Unless you're traveling to Swizterland, seems most escorts overseas charge way less then USA based escorts.

 

When I travel overseas, I never eat hamburgers... so....

[Guest cp8036]

Yep, there are escorts all over the world. Local ones can be fun to know. Also he can give some good local advice.

[Guest JON1265]

Good topic.....interesting points....let me throw in my opinion on the subject...I figure if one escort charges $1,000 for a day....to me that's almost 3-6 escorts right there (depending on where you are, rates, etc.)

 

I would rather fly somewhere and sample the local cuisine. I just couldn't justify paying for an escort while he accompanies me on a vacation that I would be paying for as well.

 

Besides, I don't have that kind of cash....so I don't think it's a problem I will be facing anytime soon.

 

And I have a question for escorts....isn't it demanding to be "on" 24/7? Or would you only travel with someone you knew really well? I mean what if a guy called up and said "hey, you have great reviews, your hot, blah, blah, blah....come with me for a week in Europe." Would you do it? What are (is?) your criteria for deciding if you would go?

[Guest JT]

>My two cents worth

>

Hi Michael, I now know where you spent the two cents you collected from the other thread! hehehe...

 

JT

[Guest EastWest Coast]

Excellent point. From the escort's point of view, I would think it would be exhausting to spend 24/7 with somebody unless you really, really enjoyed his company.

[Guest cp8036]

Escorts I know said they make a point of having "X" amount of hours off each day. To shop, work out, nap, cry, look for flights back home, purchase a gun, write postcards, or meet someone fun.

 

One told me that he agreed to go with a gentleman to Bali for a week. From a northern climate, that's pretty attractive in January. The client said he wanted him to be naked 24/7, houseboy type of thing. Since the money was hard to decline, and the location, he agreed.

 

Turned out the nude houseboy thing wasn't really requested, and he said was a nice time, and they got along well. The free time each afternoon was important though.

 

If was me, think I'd look into some local talent... and be way ahead of the game, no airfare, and so on. If don't like first guy, are others to meet. I am already brushing up my Bahasa Indonesia.

[Guest DCescortBOY]

i went for well over a week to europe last summer thanks to the generosity of a client.

basically, we went to italy & i spent some time with him. then, when he flew home, i stayed over in italy--and he picked up the tab.

it works well if you've established things in advance & you know each other.

i've accompanied various clients to different places--europe, mexico, the caribbean.

 

i'm never ON all the time though. everyone needs some space once in a while. i've never had a problem getting the space either. it seems the clients who are serious about travel appointments already understand the complexities.

[Guest JT]

>One told me that he agreed

>to go with a gentleman

>to Bali for a week.

> From a northern climate,

>that's pretty attractive in January.

>and they got along well.

> The free time each

>afternoon was important though.

 

>If was me, think I'd look

>into some local talent... and

>be way ahead of the

>game, no airfare, and so

>on.

 

In the case of Bali, you may find your choice of escorts limited though. Of course, I'm talking about "professional and top-qaulity" escorts here. :-)

 

JT

[Guest JD]

This may be a stupid question but I don't know what to expect sexually when traveling with an escort.

 

For example, many messages here suggest that you allow time apart from the escort. (I think that's a great idea.) But, is it "normal" or expected that the escort will return to spend the evening?

 

I had one friend take an escort on a gay cruise. He claimed the escort spent more time "servicing" other cruisers and not my friend. There were a lot of hurt feelings and my friend felt he had been used.

 

I personally wouldn't expect sex every night during a 5-day cruise but I also would NOT want to feel that I had to "cruise" and compete for time with my traveling companion.

 

Is it generally understood that during travel times the escort is manogamous with the client (unless otherwise agreementse are made prior to travel)?

[Rod Hagen]

>I made the disasterous mistake once

>of inviting a young escort

>to my home city (major

>metropolitan area) for 5 days.

>We had a kind of

>"up and down" encounter on

>the West Coast (L.V.)

 

Adriano, I remember we had some fun "up and down"s in LV. Ever repeat those types of movements? :-)

 

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"I will seek out these androids, and I

will break them with my bare hands!"

[Guest DCescortBOY]

jd...

those are things you need to establish in advance. unless you do so, there is no excuse for hurt feelings.

 

i went to cancun this past fall with a client. we knew each other really well & he enjoyed my unique sense of humor. we established that there would be no set minimum amout of sex. we also established that i'd have as much "free time" as i wanted. in truth, i enjoy hanging out with him, so it wasn't a big deal. he went to chichen itza one day & i had already been there--i offered to go & be his own private tour guide, but he told me to stay & hang out. when i went scuba diving, he chose not to come with us.

we decided that we would both come back & spend the night together.

something unexpected happened though: i met someone i REALLY clicked with & to whom i was exceptionally attracted. one night, i was out with the new guy... i'd already made sure my client didn't have anything planned for US and that he had some company to hang out with. my new friend & i ended up falling asleep on a lounge chair on the beach for a while. the next morning, i apologized for being gone so long. the client--a really special man--just smiled & said he was glad i had a good time.

 

if you set up the rules in advance, and neither client nor escort is unreasonable, you CAN have a great time travelling with an escort. but, as many posters have pointed out: it isn't for everyone.

[Guest JON1265]

On that point JD...I'd have to say that the escort should be monogamous with his companion UNLESS it is arranged prior to that..true the escort is on vacation as well...but it is a "working" vacation of sorts....so I think the escort does not have a right to go cruising and having sex with other people....anyone else? Or do the escorts think I am off base on this?

 

Jon

[Guest DCescortBOY]

for the most part i think you're on track here.

the problem is: a lot of clients say "you should have fun too; act like you're on vacation!" then they might get upset if you enjoy yourself too much. this is much more likely to happen with younger, less-seasoned escorts. a decent compensated companion should know that whatever the client may SAY beforehand, he will be held to a high standard.

 

 

>On that point JD...I'd have to

>say that the escort should

>be monogamous with his companion

>UNLESS it is arranged prior

>to that..true the escort is

>on vacation as well...but it

>is a "working" vacation of

>sorts....so I think the escort

>does not have a right

>to go cruising and having

>sex with other people....anyone else?

>Or do the escorts think

>I am off base on

>this?

>

>Jon

[Guest DCescortBOY]

"he will be held to a high standard" he = the escort, not the client.

[marc anthony]

I have always given the escort lots of latitude to have fun on trips as well. Why shouldn't he have fun too? And even as far as sex goes, I really don't care if he goes clubbing and cavorts with others his own age as long as he is in top gear to perform when it is my agreed upon time! And since that is usually late at night, before dinner, and in the morning... he has lots of time to engage in fun time for himself!

[Guest cp8036]

It's not really a vacation. The money implies the escort is working. The escort has some obligation, as does the client to be reasonable. But, surely for cleint and escort to take an extended trip they have a good relationship, and they know the limits.

 

Anyone reasonable would want the escort to enjoy himself, to have quotas/rules/minimums would set a bad tone. But, the escort shouldn't take advantage of his flexibility. The guy that serviced other clients on the ship sounds bad. The client should have left him in Nassau.

[Guest regulation]

I don't take an escort on a trip so that he can amuse himself, but so that he can amuse me. I note that some clients feel that just going on the trip is part of the compensation the escort receives for his time and that the escort's fee should be greatly reduced for this reason. If one feels that way I suppose it makes sense to let the escort choose activities for himself while there. But if I am paying a substantial fee in addition to the expenses of the trip, I want to have the use of the time for which I am paying. If the escort isn't someone with whom you enjoy spending days as well as nights, why bring him at all? You can simply hire someone locally for the nights and avoid the bother and expense of bringing the escort with you.

[Traveller]

>This may be a stupid question

>but I don't know what

>to expect sexually when traveling

>with an escort.

>

>For example, many messages here suggest

>that you allow time apart

>from the escort. (I think

>that's a great idea.) But,

>is it "normal" or expected

>that the escort will return

>to spend the evening?

>

>I had one friend take an

>escort on a gay cruise.

>He claimed the escort spent

>more time "servicing" other cruisers

>and not my friend. There

>were a lot of hurt

>feelings and my friend felt

>he had been used.

>

>I personally wouldn't expect sex every

>night during a 5-day cruise

>but I also would NOT

>want to feel that I

>had to "cruise" and compete

>for time with my traveling

>companion.

>

>Is it generally understood that during

>travel times the escort is

>manogamous with the client (unless

>otherwise agreementse are made prior

>to travel)?

 

The only time I travelled with an escort was when I flew Sergi down from Berlin to Munich for Oktoberfest because of the dearth of escorts in Munich. For three days we tooled around Munich and the festival with my friends. The only time we were apart was when we were in the bath house looking to see who could get the best looking guy or guys for fun in a room. We had sex at least two, if not three times a day. (You gotta at least have it once or just what is the point.) If he had had sex with someone else (without me) during this time, I would've ripped off his head and shit down his throat.

 

I had played with him in Berlin before this, so I knew he liked to go dancing, drinking, etc., and that my friends and he would get along. Party hounds all of them. He was big fun to hang out with, great in the rack and we were the same size in clothes (i.e., my height and weight for a change).

 

This experience may be unusual, but the bottom line is that you're hiring a playmate. It is supposed to be fun. They should know what you expect, agree to it, and what you expect should make you happy.

 

Later.

 

PS. And with regard to another post on this thread, the daily price was much less than what I've seen quoted on this site for US escorts.

[johnnysneakers]

How do US escorts establish their daily rate?

 

Many have commented that $1000 is the standard daily rate for US escorts. I am curious how they establish this rate. Is this what they normally would make in a day? If so, their daily rate is to replace lost income. Is it an indication of the number of tricks, err "appointments" they would normally do in a day? If their normal fee is $200 for a session, then are they doing 5 appointments per day??

 

I suspect the top escorts in major cities might be doing this many, but few.

 

So why are they not discounting their daily fee as any smart business operator would do? Or are they turning more than 5 appointments each day. I would think they would prefer to have a fixed contract with guaranteed money, not much work, rather than to wait for the phone to ring, together with all the risks associated with hourly appointments.

 

In short, I feel this $1000 daily rate just does not add up, esp when the joy of travel is involved.

[Guest DCescortBOY]

RE: How do US escorts establish their daily rate?

 

then don't book someone for a day-long trip.

if you think a lawyer's retainer is too dear, you don't hire him, right? wouldn't the same rule of thumb apply?

[marc anthony]

RE: How do US escorts establish their daily rate?

 

Johnny: This has been my point all along. The joy of travel is not always involved. For some travel appointments with a client, the escort will have to put on a smiling face all day long for several days, have sex at someone else's beck and call, and be away from home and regular scheduled activity. Naturally they will charge a premium.

 

However, if you have a great relationship with an escort, and they know they are likely to really have fun, and you are going to a destination that they are interested in, the fee dramatically reduces! And I have found that this is true with both agency boys and independents (a lot of agency boys have more input into their charges than they like to let on).

 

Because I travel with escorts who I have gotten along well with in the past, and they know that I care about them and would make sure they have a great time, and because I usually bring them to great cities like Vegas, Honolulu, San Fran, NYC, New Orleans, etc.... my price is always very fair. I don't think I have ever had to pay an escorts "published" travel fee but a handful of times. And the time we have together has been first class!

[Guest cp8036]

Those Indonesian guys are hot !!!

 

Yes, may not find same as USA quality escorts. But, you get what you pay for. Pay less, get less. Would be out for some simple fun, not so much the companionship for a week.

 

Even if I could afford to pay for such an extended engagement with a traveling escort, I don't think I would. No problem with the hourly or overnight thing for some fun, but I couldn't justify the cost of a weekly trip. Were talking thousands of dollars. Don't mean any disrespect to the fine guys here, but is more my preference/position.

 

Even if was with a regular I get along with, I would have in the back of my mind that each day is in fact a commercial deal. Maybe I am cynical, but would still create some barriers in my mind.

 

If I had a particularly good relationship, I might consider offering the trip, paying for airfare, meals, petties, but not sure I would go so far as to pay for the weekly rate. I wouldn't expect a lot either, come and go as you feel.. meet others.. sex with others, no jealously issues. Maybe one quick roll in bed one night.

 

For a busy, full-time escort, I realize his lost income potential, so unlikely to make such an arrangement. But for a special case, there is a chance to get out of town, very "light duty", and the free travel value. This assume is good connection, and we do enjoy each other. Most unlikely, but just a thought.