Escorts set the rules!

[kjun]

I realize that escorting is a business and that escorts, as businessmen have a right to make certain rules. Still, I think that if they are professionals as most claim to be then my recent experinece bothered me. I saw a profile for Colo_Mountain on Men4RentNow.com ( http://www.men4rentnow.com/ads/index.asp?cmd=view&id=106785&Login=Colo_Mountain )The pictures of Mr. Mountain cause my heart to palpitate, so I sent a message. His reply included the following:

 

"MY RULES: no drugs, no smoking, no games. I'm only compatible with guys 18 to 40's who are height and weight proportionate. I'll need an up to date photo emailed to me before we meet. I require and assure 100% discretion and privacy."

 

Perhaps I am just upset because I do not qualify - too old and too fat - , but I found these rules offensive. He is the first escort I've contacted who has such rules. What do you think?

 

the Cajun

[Doc]

I think it is safe to say the you feel the escort is being rude. My take on this is, at least he is honest of what or who he might do or not do. As a customer I appreciate the fact that he states what his rules are so I don't go through the crap of trying to hook-up with him when he, in no-way, wants to do me because I don't meet his criteria.

 

I don't say this because I meet his criteria either. I fit into the age category fine, but as far has height and weight proportionate...well, let's just say if I was 9'8"; I could give him a call. Besides, you can't help it that he is shallow and wants to get paid to have sex with good looking, fit men.

[Big Daddy]

With those rules, he should PAY the client.

[+ Axiom2001]

I'd just say to him: Go screw yourself! If you want all of your contacts to meet those rigid criteria-- then CRUISE and hookup with those men who fit your profile of a partner for your fuckfest!

[Guest gentle guy]

Not as uncommon as you think

 

I agree with the comments above. Although he IS being honest, I find it offensive--and I meet his criteria. However, I would never send a photo.

 

This is not the first time I have read these "rules," or similar ones. There are quite a few AOL companions in NY who email such requirements or state them in their profiles. These guys seem to be mostly "recent" (they have appeared on the scene during the last 3-4 months), under 24 years of age, and unreviewed.

 

Sorry that someone whose job is to make you feel good made you feel not so good.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

What a schmuck~

 

First & foremost in my mind, an escort's job includes making a guy feel comfortable, being sexually compatable, listening, learning and making his fella feel like a million damn dollars...

 

Anything less would be uncivilized

 

Although 'honest,' i would call any escort who:

 

A) Requests mandatory pictures

B) Puts overtly excessive age, weight, income, etc restrictions on his clients.

C) is an elitest asshole with serious self-image problems

 

... To be not worth the dirt under your nails and certainly not worth a second look. There may be some pretty faces in this industry, but is it really worth feeling bad about yourself for that hour, evening, weekend or week of gratification? I didn't think so.

 

As an escort, if i can't come away from time with one of my guys feeling like we've really had great sex, intelligent conversation (including mindless chatter at times) and basic fun, then it really hasn't been gratifying... For either of us. That ultimately leads to burnout (with both parties) and bad reviews, etc.

 

You know, the typical 'I was once a great escort' NBC After-school special kinda stuff...

 

In this particular situation, it's probably best not to waste your time with this escort, as there are MANY others out there with better work ethics who would jump at the chance to meet with you

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[+ Cock Eyed Optimist]

So who does he think he is !!?? His pictures on M4RentNow aren't all that hot anyway. Oops, maybe that's a "sour grapes" reaction since I don't fit the age requirements either, but it is quite offensive to me.

[LovesYng]

Just my two cents because most you guys are saying the same I'm thinking, FUCK YOU Mr. Mountainx( Maybe you should stay on your mountain and keep thinking your God.

 

When in doubt I whip it out:+

[VaHawk]

Well imo, it is offensive to any client, whether they meet his requirements or not. Shows real hustler attitude on his part and that attitude is a real turnoff, that will cost him a lot of business, but then again I guess he has a right to limit his business if he wants. These types are the kind that give the "true escorts" a bad name and in turn cost them business. I think if this guy was your first hire, it would turn you off to escorts for a long time, if not forever.

 

It's too bad you had to waste your time sending an email. Why don't these types just post all of their rules under their listing and save everyone a lot of time?

 

Why not have a little fun with him? Send him a reply with an attached picture of a hot looking guy and make a date and be a no show. Well, I personally wouldn't be that evil now would I? }(

 

Or send an email back with your rules: proof of age required, time stamped full nude frontal and back pics required, provide authenticated positive reviews from satisfied clients, and written agreement that if you show up not looking like the pics, with a limp dick, demanding extra for agreed upon action, and giving bad attitude then you get NO PAY!

[VaHawk]

Well imo, it is offensive to any client, whether they meet his requirements or not. Shows real hustler attitude on his part and that attitude is a real turnoff, that will cost him a lot of business, but then again I guess he has a right to limit his business if he wants. These types are the kind that give the "true escorts" a bad name and in turn cost them business. I think if this guy was your first hire, it would turn you off to escorts for a long time, if not forever.

 

It's too bad you had to waste your time sending an email. Why don't these types just post all of their rules under their listing and save everyone a lot of time?

 

Why not have a little fun with him? Send him a reply with an attached picture of a hot looking guy and make a date and be a no show. Well, I personally wouldn't be that evil now would I? }(

 

Or send an email back with your rules: proof of age required, time stamped full nude frontal and back pics required, provide authenticated positive reviews from satisfied clients, and written agreement that if you show up not looking like the pics, with a limp dick, demanding extra for agreed upon action, and giving bad attitude then you get NO PAY!

[Guest jeffOH]

Escorts who have these restrictions are most likely not all that good of an escort in the first place and also are limiting their business to pretty much nothing. He's obviously in it mainly for the money and apparently has an highly exaggerated opinion of himself. Unless he drops his requirements, it's unlikely he'll last long as an escort.

 

Kjun, you're probably better off not seeing an escort of this sort.

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[Guest ncm2169]

On the other hand, he IS well hung. :9

[LovesYng]

>Why not have a little fun with him? Send him a reply with an

>attached picture of a hot looking guy and make a date and be a

>no show. Well, I personally wouldn't be that evil now would

>I? }(

>

>Or send an email back with your rules: proof of age required,

>time stamped full nude frontal and back pics required, provide

>authenticated positive reviews from satisfied clients, and

>written agreement that if you show up not looking like the

>pics, with a limp dick, demanding extra for agreed upon

>action, and giving bad attitude then you get NO PAY!

 

I love your thinking:P

 

When in doubt I whip it out:+

[VaHawk]

Well thank you! I always like your thinking also. Really, how ridiculous is the escort scene becoming when the product for sell determines the conditions for the buyer? Kind of reminds me of that car commercial where the car is cruising the streets and picks out the people "worthy of buying/owning it".

[AaronScottDC]

>I realize that escorting is a business and that escorts, as

>businessmen have a right to make certain rules.

 

Sure, any escort can set what ever rules they want to. And, of course, as clients, you guys can set what ever rules you want to.

 

If you really want to get this guy, then your rule should be to NEVER call him or hook up with him, or anyone else who has this kind of attitude. However, we all know he probably does get clients since we have witnessed this type of behavior being exhibited by a few other arrogant escorts who actually do get a lot of clients. (No need to mention any names, we all know who they are).

 

So, until clients start expecting a little better out of the guys they are hiring, then lovely escorts like Mountain Man will, sadly IMO, continue to do business.

 

Aaron Scott DC

http://www.erados.com/AaronScottDC

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/aaronscottdc.html

[Doug69]

This Mr. Mountain is infinitely more ethical than many of the supposedly "best-regarded" escorts who coo over everyone, because -- unlike the cooing escorts (who pretend to be attracted even to guys they really find vile just to get money) -- Mr. Montana at least is honest about what he's thinking, and isn't willing to pretend to want to be with someone who he really doens't want to be with. I think that's commendable.

 

What most people are looking for in what they consider "good escorts" are really good actors, i.e., guys who can pretend to think and want and feel things that they don't, at all, really think, want or feel, just because they are getting paid.

 

When looking for an escort, many clients want a little puppet - someone they can pay to be whatever the client wants, regardless of how detatched it is from reality, because such clients are really paying to escape reality, so they want the escort to be anything but real and true. In other words, such clients are paying the escort to live a lie with them - and for that time, the time that is theirs - these clients want guys willing to convincingly act the lie that the escort actually wants to be near them.

 

The reason this Mr. Mountain guy provoked so much anger and hostility and scorn (you would have thought he was some stealing, cheating street corner hustler from these comments) is because he is honest, real and true about what he thinks. In other words, he is in reality, the things that scare many of these clients the most.

[VaHawk]

Yep, there is absolutely no hope, that you will ever be able to comprehend the meaning of the words posted. You really need to go take a course in reading comprehension.

 

Why do you always skim the posts and pick out key words, totally out of context, and then proceed to take off on a wild tangent in your replies?

[Doug69]

>Yep, there is absolutely no hope, that you will ever be able

>to comprehend the meaning of the words posted. You really

>need to go take a course in reading comprehension.

>

>Why do you always skim the posts and pick out key words,

>totally out of context, and then proceed to take off on a wild

>tangent in your replies?

 

Whenever someone on the Internet who wishes to disagree with a point you have made can do so only by accusing you of being incapable of reading; or having so much "shit in your head that you need a roto rooter to cart it away" or any other similar, substantive analysis of your points, then you know that the person you have encountered on the Internet is incapable of mustering anything more -- it's not that he doesn't want to, it's that he can't -- and for that, you should pity him, rather than detest him.

[Rick Munroe]

>This Mr. Mountain is infinitely more ethical than many of the

>supposedly "best-regarded" escorts who coo over everyone,

>because -- unlike the cooing escorts (who pretend to be

>attracted even to guys they really find vile just to get

>money) -- Mr. Montana at least is honest about what he's

>thinking

 

I agree that's he's being honest but that certainly doesn't make every other escort a liar. What screwy logic. Unless you're a psychic, Doug, you have no idea what any escort is ever really thinking. And unless you're an escort, you don't know what it's like to be able to find something sexy or attractive in almost any man, as I can. That, not "cooing," is what makes a successful escort. You have every right to be cynical, however, just as Mountain Man has every right to set the rules of his business.

[Doug69]

>I agree that's he's being honest but that certainly doesn't

>make every other escort a liar. What screwy logic.

 

I agree it's screwy logic, which is why I'm glad I didn't employ it. Let me be a little more explanatory, since you missed it the first time.

 

There are 2 facts here, and they are not causally related:

 

(1) Mr. Mountain was honest in admitting that there are certain types of clients which he does not want to be around, and that candor is commendable;

 

(2) Many escorts do the opposite: they lie about wanting to be around their clients in order to get money, and somehow, the clients here find this deceit to be more commendable than this honest escort's candor. Now that's screwy logic!

 

>you're a psychic, Doug, you have no idea what any escort is

>ever really thinking.

 

If you want to tell me that you are attracted to every client you meet - no matter how fat, smelly, old or anything else, I would say that those are just the next lines in your running escort commercial here.

 

I agree that I don't know your particular taste. For you, the repugnant category may be thin, cologne-wearing and young, but all human beings, by their nature, have a type of person they find attractive and a type they don't, and to pretend otherwise is not just dishonest, it is so transparently dishonest, which is why it amazes me how much this Escort Act nonetheless works.

 

The need it serves is impressively compelling to allow for that level of Suspension of Disbelief! I have no objection to it - it's a desperate need for fantasy being filled by the market, and that's great. But, given its core dishonestly and lack of realism, it's still nonetheless astounding that it works.

[Rick Munroe]

>If you want to tell me that you are attracted

>to every client you meet

 

What I said was that I can find something sexy or attractive in almost any man. Pay attention, Doug. :*

[VaHawk]

>What I said was that I can find something sexy or attractive

>in almost any man. Pay attention, Doug. :*

 

Really, as I stated before, he never reads with comprehension or pays attention.

[VaHawk]

LOL! You really are pathetic. Want to throw around a few more "internet cliches". You do it so well, while denying it about yourself, and accusing others of the same.

[N.N.]

Benjamin Nicholas said "it's probably best not to waste your time with this escort, as there are MANY others out there with better work ethics..." Just what was unethical about this one?

 

jeffOH said "He's obviously in it mainly for the money..." How do you know that, jeffOH? He's limiting his client base substantially; does he seem more in it for the money than an escort who takes all comers?

 

I work in engineering. On occasion, I have chosen interesting jobs over less-interesting ones that paid more. No one complains about my choice in this matter; when I've turned offers down, no one called me names or impugned my ethics. Why should escorting be night-and-day different in this regard?

 

I acknowledge that there are polite ways to state one's limits and less-than-polite ways. But I've seen this topic discussed here enough times to know that no matter how politely an escort phrases it, some people will be offended by an escort limiting his clientele to, say, men under 40.

 

I have great respect for escorts who can do well with a wide range of clients. But escorts who are less adaptable are not necessarily bad escorts in my book.

[Rick Munroe]

Great post, N.N. You're right; Benjamin and Jeff were completely off-base. If he's clearly stating that he will only be able to perform with a certain type of client, obviously limiting his earnings potential, then how can anyone say he's unethical and merely "in it for the money"? Sounds more like the complete opposite to me.