Some escorts' rudeness is mind-boggling!

[Guest]

I can hardly believe the rudeness of some of the escort responses this week. Wisconsin Tom from Fort Lauderdale not only blows off (so to speak) his appointment (apparently turning off the ringer on his phone so his sleep won't be disturbed), but he has the nerve to be completely unapologetic for it. He can't even put up a public pretense of being sorry! Can anyone with a "real job" imagine sleeping through when they were supposed to be at work (silencing the phone to boot), then, when asked about it, to simply respond by saying "Your job wasn't a priority for me!" ?? :o

Mike from Minneapolis was no better. I guess the escort business seems to attract people with narcissistic personalities (not that all escorts are narcissists, by any means). These escorts really seem to think that the world revolves around them, and that how their behavior affects others is of no consequence (to them, at least).

[VaHawk]

WTF is WRONG with you? Don't you know that escorts are GODS who don't have to answer to anyone, especially mere MORTALS like the clients who hire them at exorbitant rates????

 

As such, they are ENTITLED to be as rude, obnoxious and underperforming as they wish to be, but the odious client is SUPPOSED to worship them, no questions asked or criticism allowed? If any client does that, then all the pathetic members of the Escort Worshipping Society on this site will then berate you to the point of submission!!

[marc anthony]

Well... now you guys know why I like twinks. If they are rude, you just spank 'em.

 

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[Rick Munroe]

>I guess the escort

>business seems to attract people with narcissistic

>personalities

 

That is really not true. Yes, my walls are all mirrored but that's only because it makes the rooms look bigger.

[Will]

He didn't say that *all* escorts are narcissists, just some of them. And I think that's very, very true. Any healthy person has a good dose of narcissism in him, just to keep him from collapsing. Many people have more than a healthy dose and, as it happens, they are usually charming, outgoing, friendly, eager to please. If you don't believe me, look up "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" in the diagnostic manual. Frankly, I don't know how else most escorts could function. After all, they are able to find something in any client to eroticize; and I can easily imagine that many clients are most erotic when they are turned on by the escort. Who doesn't feel great when somebody else shows them they think he's hot? Another thing about people with great big doses of narcissism is that they find genuine intimacy elusive. I suppose that's because once I've told you all about myself, what I want to hear from you is what you think of me. One-way streets don't lead to intimacy or even genuine friendship.

 

All the escorts I've reviewed have had healthy egos and were not morbidly narcissistic. As the son of a classic, textbook-case man with narcissistic personality disorder, I consider myself something of an expert. My father is the most charming, the funniest, the most endearing man I ever met. And the most dangerous. I've learned to be careful.

[golden guy]

VaHawk, I think for one time here you and I agree and your post "hits" the nail on the head. I too am amazed at the way some escorts behave and treat their clients.

Sometimes I think we are the ones to blame for the way some will act, for it is us, the clients, who from time to time will put them on a pedistial. As far as the current rates are going, I can't believe that some will even post that their fee of $250 per hour. I completed six years of college and still unable to attain an hourly rate of $250, let alone $200!

As I read the new reviews daily, I am shocked to see that some clients will pay an escort upwards of $3500+ for an all expense paid trip to some great location. Call me cheap, but if I were to offer an all expense paid trip to an escort, I'll be damned if I would pay him some crazy fee....just for his time in addition to paying all of his expenses! Having said that, I realize that most all escorts would laugh at me if I were to offer him an all expense paid trip, including a stay at a four/five star hotel and was only interested in paying him something like $200 per day. If someone offered me an all expense paid trip, I would be very pleased and thankful beyond belief just for the opportunity.

Since I am on a roll, how about another bitch of mine! The traveling escorts...Imagine any of us having the opportunity to travel to several cities over the course of a month and seeing clients for an hour at a time and therefore paying our expenses. The announcements that some will post in the traveling escort section make it out like a king is coming to town! You aren't a king. Yet we sure do treat them that way sometimes and it is easy to see how their heads can get too big.

Since I am new to the hiring process, I have often wished I could be a fly on the wall while the escort discuss us in private to their friends. We all know that it happens and I confident there have been unkind words said many times. Yet when we contact them again for a paid date they are all smiles and can't wait to get our money, oh I mean to see us again.

So VaHawk, thanks for your posts...always and thank you for setting a fire under me today. Now I must get back to the task at hand of finding an escort...see I even fall for their crap sometimes.

[+ Hoover42]

I've found that many of the service providers I've had to work with recently are just as rude, if not more so, than the escorts you mentioned.

 

Perhaps it’s the nature of the part of the country I live in, or perhaps I just rub people the wrong way, so to speak, but lately I've become accustomed to rudeness.

 

Polite service is a rare pleasure for me these days.

 

...Hoover

[Guest Tristan]

>WTF is WRONG with you? Don't you know that escorts are GODS

>who don't have to answer to anyone, especially mere MORTALS

>like the clients who hire them at exorbitant rates????

>

>As such, they are ENTITLED to be as rude, obnoxious and

>underperforming as they wish to be, but the odious client is

>SUPPOSED to worship them, no questions asked or criticism

>allowed? If any client does that, then all the pathetic

>members of the Escort Worshipping Society on this site will

>then berate you to the point of submission!!

 

VaHawk, very well stated. Though I believe there are quite a few escorts who don't fall into this category, a point made in this thread.

 

I think David Gartner was a perfect example of escort worshipping on this site. His travel logs of his road trip across the country were followed with such enthusiasm as if his words were the gospel, albeit they were entertaining. His following ignored the fact that he did not answer e-mail, was a total flake, did not give clients adequate notice for his schedule, constantly changed his schedule on short notice, and generally behaved in a very unprofessional manner. If any member said something negative about David, he was berated by David's followers and told that David was merely showing youthful exuberance.

 

Then it turns out that David wrote fake reviews for both himself and his friends, which apart from other things, was enough to put him in disrepute. The DG worshipping society must have crawled into their holes because they were never heard from again re DG.

[eastbayguy]

>I've found that many of the service providers I've had to

>work with recently are just as rude, if not more so, than the

>escorts you mentioned.

 

Sadly true. Called your cable company any time lately?

 

--EBG

[marc anthony]

>>I've found that many of the service providers I've had to

>>work with recently are just as rude, if not more so, than

>the

>>escorts you mentioned.

>

>Sadly true. Called your cable company any time lately?

>

>--EBG

>

 

ROFLMAO! You mean to say that you actually spoke to a human being when you called your cable company?????

 

:+ :+

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

>I've found that many of the service providers I've had to

>work with recently are just as rude, if not more so, than the

>escorts you mentioned.

>

 

I agree.

 

Personally, I think the content and tone of this thread is rude. There are rude and unprofessionial people in all walks of life not just escorts. And while all escorts have two legs not all two-legged beings are escorts -- get it!!.

 

Independent service providers by the nature of the business can exhibit this personality quirk more so than those working for others simply because those that are working for others wont be around long. The key word is INDEPENDENT not escort. Rude and irresponsible employess get fired all the time although it does take time to 'build a case' in this day and age or easier, they just get transferred or promoted to another department. Yeah there are some rude escorts, and hotel staff, wait staff, plumbers, lawyers, doctors, auto mechanics,...

 

To repeat myself... while all escorts have two legs not all two-legged beings are escorts!!.

 

Pardon me while I return to some fun dancers and escorts -- not to mention nice -- here in Montreal...

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Just a thought

 

>Yeah there are some rude escorts, and

>hotel staff, wait staff, plumbers, lawyers, doctors, auto

>mechanics,...

>

 

Oh yeah, i left out of the list rude CLIENTS. Anybody want to trash all clients as rude?? How about most? Maybe the explanation for those that are rude are that they are certain personality types practicing an INDEPENDENT activity. Just a thought.

[+ deej]

>ROFLMAO! You mean to say that you actually spoke to a human

>being when you called your cable company?????

 

I speak to a human being at my cable company regularly.

 

Well, technically, I speak to a telemarketer for my cable company because they continue to call me incessantly trying to sign me up even though I'm already a customer. }(

 

If I didn't already think they were incompetent (which I do), repeated calls from telemarketers trying to sign me up (when I'm already signed up) clinches the impression.

[Rick Munroe]

>He didn't say that *all* escorts are narcissists, just some

>of them.

 

It was a joke, son. :+

[woodlawn]

Kudos to Unicorn, VaHawk, Tristan and Goldenguy for their very trenchant remarks.

 

I do not find it to be true that a lack of concern for customers is more characteristic of independent service providers than of others in the business world. In the case of escorts, the fact that dissatisfied customers have little or no recourse probably figures in the way some of them behave toward clients. As does the fact that some clients seem so starved for even a simulacrum of intimacy that they will put up with almost anything in order to get it. Cougar, a sometime client of the escort Aiden from Tampa, comes to mind. This fellow was still willing to consider hiring Aiden even though Aiden had stood him up on three separate occasions and had called him a liar on this website when Cougar posted a review mentioning the no-shows. I find it difficult to believe that Cougar (or anyone) would put up with that sort of treatment from a plumber or repairman, but he was willing to put up with it from an escort.

 

Sadly, there are those who seem so dependent on escorts that they will defend escorts no matter what they do. They are not doing themselves or the rest of us a favor by acting that way.

[marc anthony]

I have a few "stream of consciousness" thoughts regarding all of the discussion so far.

 

I agree with Woodlawn that some escorts may feel immune from repercussion and thus may act with less courtesy than they should. I also think that some are quite good at being salesmen (which is really their "category" of work) and thus have all the necessary people skills that make them so likable.

 

I agree that there is a wide spectrum of behavior that people will tolerate, and because lust/desire/intimacy are involved with escort hiring, some people may take it to extreme. But I am wondering if we are surprised that those people populate this message board.

 

I also think that escort hiring, like almost any other decision making activity, is multi-factorial. I don't think any one thing makes someone hire another. There is physical attraction, convenience, personality, price, etc. Sometimes you have to give on one end to satisfy the other. For example, I am attracted to twinks, but I also like punctuality. If I dismissed every single escort the very first time they were late, I would have to have sex with a lot of people who didn't attract me.

 

Not sure I have an overall point (but then few people who are babbling in a "stream" do), but if I did, I guess it would be... to each his own. And if you have enough information about an escort to know you don't like him, you don't have to hire him.

[rocky]

Thanks folks; I thought I was the only one

that thought WT's response was inappropriate.

Not sure of the details but to say, I've

got a real job and this is a sideline,

well then get out of the sideline business

buck-oo

[rocky]

Thanks folks; I thought I was the only one

that thought WT's response was inappropriate.

Not sure of the details but to say, I've

got a real job and this is a sideline,

well then get out of the sideline business

buck-oo

[Guest skrubber]

Eastbayguy-

 

That was then, this is Comcast

[Guest skrubber]

I can honestly say that in my year of hiring I have NOT met a rude escort yet. Of course I am very careful on hiring and depend highly on reviews. Anybody who is stuck with getting rude escorts should definately try BN or CODYNYCSTAR two of the nicest most accomodating escorts I have ever hired (oh, where are my PomPoms?) The worst experience I have had (and it wasn't particularly bad) was with CLARCKSTUD-NYC who would not sleep with me on an overnighter. Althoug he was most gorgeous and had an impeccably beautiful ass.

[BobbyThompson]

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>As far as the current rates are

>going, I can't believe that some will even post that their fee

>of $250 per hour. I completed six years of college and still

>unable to attain an hourly rate of $250, let alone $200!

>If someone offered me an all

>expense paid trip, I would be very pleased and thankful beyond

>belief just for the opportunity.

>Since I am on a roll, how about another bitch of mine! The

>traveling escorts...

>Since I am new to the hiring process, I have often wished I

>could be a fly on the wall while the escort discuss us in

>private to their friends. We all know that it happens and I

>confident there have been unkind words said many times. Yet

>when we contact them again for a paid date they are all smiles

>and can't wait to get our money, oh I mean to see us again.

>So VaHawk, thanks for your posts...always and thank you for

>setting a fire under me today. Now I must get back to the task

>at hand of finding an escort...see I even fall for their crap

>sometimes.

 

 

Your envy of escorts is almost as obvious as your dislike of them. Perhaps you should take up being an escort yourself to alleviate this desire. Unless, of course, escorting is not something you're able to do. Those who can will continue to charge the fee that the market will allow. If the market goes down, most will choose to become certified massage therapists and make a little less money, leaving behind a smaller and perhaps less pleasing assortment.

 

You assume we speak unkind words in our private lives when you have no problem doing it in public forum. Yes, we are such horrid people.

 

I hope you treat your next escort a little better than your not-so-hidden prejudged impression of him. Money is a huge part of the equation, as I doubt you'd do your job for free. But clients that have treated me nicely have become friends I see several times per week WITHOUT compensation, and those I'm not able to see often, I look forward to.

 

Best of luck, traveling escort, Bobby Thompson

[marc anthony]

Obviously struck a nerve.

 

I can see how an escort like Bobby would take offense to this whole discussion, though. It really is an attack on "who he is", at least at this point in his life.

 

And for a guy like Bobby, who is charming, responsible, courteous, and tries to be accomodating... I am sure he doesn't appreciate being type cast as a villainous greedy parasite.

 

Like I have tried to point out all along, there is nothing wrong with judging each escort on his own merits, each client on his own merits, and each relationship on its own merits. I just don't see the utility in trying to railroad some stereotypical classification system in an area that revolves around personal choice, human emotion, and intimate interaction.

 

I consider myself to be one of those "friends" that Bobby referred to. I am lucky to have him as a friend. He is a talented pianist, a skilled conversationalist, and a good buddy for late night IM chats. I have paid him $250, and it was well worth it. But I have also seen him be willing to hang out with me in a city just for the hell of it for a couple of days.

 

He is truly one of the "good" guys. And even in this sordid world of escort hiring, there are some of those!

 

:P

[VaHawk]

>Your envy of escorts is almost as obvious as your dislike of

>them. Perhaps you should take up being an escort yourself to

>alleviate this desire. Unless, of course, escorting is not

>something you're able to do. Those who can will continue to

>charge the fee that the market will allow. If the market goes

>down, most will choose to become certified massage therapists

>and make a little less money, leaving behind a smaller and

>perhaps less pleasing assortment.

 

LMFAO, is this a real post? Just because someone states that he feels that escort fees are way overboard, doesn't imply that someone "dislikes" or is "envious" of escorts!

 

That is like saying that expressing that athlete salaries are ridiculous, which they are, implies that the consumer "dislikes" athletes/sports! and insisting that if the fans don't like paying overpriced tickets, concessions, parking, pay-per-view, etc. then they should get their asses off the couch and go play pro sports!

 

Go get whatever price, your ass will command, as that is WHAT it is all about, as even scummy assed people in professions that don't include selling their bodies for sex, do the same damn thing!

 

Of course you are so VERSATILE, that if your ass is less in command than you wish, you can always MASSAGE, even though you have no QUALIFICATIONS or experience as a masseuse! BELIEVE IT OR NOT! there are people looking for a TRUE massuese whose talents include a PROFESSIONAL massage and not merely some vain self-important TWINK boy whose massage abilities consists only of twirling his girly fingers and posing!

 

>You assume we speak unkind words in our private lives when you

>have no problem doing it in public forum. Yes, we are such

>horrid people.

 

No one assumes anything, but you have no problem, in turn about making general assumptions about others, mostly unkind, in this public forum, do you?

>

>I hope you treat your next escort a little better than your

>not-so-hidden prejudged impression of him. Money is a huge

>part of the equation, as I doubt you'd do your job for free.

>But clients that have treated me nicely have become friends I

>see several times per week WITHOUT compensation, and those I'm

>not able to see often, I look forward to.

 

And I hope you treat the next client who expresses an opinion different than yours, on the HB MC, with more than the pre-judged hatred that you treated this client to!

 

But I doubt it, as you are so SPECIAL! x( :-( After all, I can't even IMAGINE how much education, talent and God given gifts it takes to spread one's legs and take a cock up one's butt!

[VaHawk]

TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE! I have no doubt about the honesty of your opinion of this guy, but unfortunately, even your protestations in behalf of this guy, are no where near enough to negate the ugliness of his post, nor the damage he has done to himself here on the mc, not that it matters.

 

Why should he care what anyone on the mc thinks, as there are LOTS of clients out there who don't don't know about HB reviews, much less the mc?

 

I certainly don't even PRETEND to speak for any other client on the mc, but I wouldn't hire this guy, if he was even 1/2 as hot as he considers himself to be, even if he was the last whore, so appropriate a term, on EARTH!

[marc anthony]

After all, I

>can't even IMAGINE how much education, talent and God given

>gifts it takes to spread one's legs and take a cock up one's

>butt!

 

 

Education, maybe not. But talent and God given gifts.. definitely. In this case, it commands $250 an hour, and I know lots of guys who pay it (myself included, many many times)!

 

:9 :9 :7