Client Confidentiality

[Doug69]

Looks like some escorts think that maintaining client confidentiality is for lowly street hustlers and cheap hookers, and not for glittering prostitution princesses.

 

Here's a wonderful bit of client privacy invasion from this week's edition of Benjamin Nicholas' vanity diary:

 

"I got an email today from a friend who escorts in LA letting me know that a recent hourly appointment of his was none other than reality nudist Richard Hatch! Why was I not surprised?"

 

How nice of Benji to broadcast this client's escort hiring activities. Benji has made no secret of his close friendship with LA escort Bobbi Thompson. I wonder which escort violated Mr. Hatch's confidentiality and whether he knew that Benji would publicize this information as wide and far as possible.

 

According to Benji's own clients and fans, he doesn't just violate the privacy of the clients of other escorts, but of his own clients, too. Here's what one of them recently said on Benji's own Yahoo Group (where messages only get posted if Benji approves of them, meaning he approved of this one):

 

<<You live in SA? OK, here's what you do. Before you try bottoming for your bf again, schedule an appointment with Benjamin. I promise that he'll make it feel GREAT!!

 

Benjamin is much too discrete to divulge publicly the men he has

topped. However, if you meet him in person, he might disclose one or

two. Believe me; you will be impressed.>>

 

We know from various threads here that some guys are so desperate for a little attention from escorts that they will defend any escort behavior, no matter how sociopathic. But running around yapping about guys who have hired you and what you've done with them just to impress other people is about as low as it gets for escorts.

 

Anyone interested in hiring escorts and doing so privately should be aware that you have to choose carefully if you want to be assured of confidentiality.

[Guest skrubber]

Doug - Why must you be on such a vendetta? You bore me, you really do.

[Guest alanm]

The negative comments on Benji's 15 Minutes have stopped lately, but that does not mean the blog is any better. I still read it, mostly for laughs -- unexplained lengthy hospital visits, people who instantly know BN in chat rooms, silly Vegas reviews, expensive vacations & flight upgrades.

 

The subtext of every blog is: I'm an important person. Given Benji's insecurity, it would be a surprise if he did not talk about his high profile clients in private. Richard Hatch seems to like publicity --

any type. I doubt that the same is true for other well known people who hire escorts.

 

On Doug's posting, he probably is involved in too many battles on this site & EscortSpeak. This is a battle he will not win. If the people here were going to pull Benji's blog, they would have done it a long time ago.

[Barry]

>"I got an email today from a friend who escorts in LA

>letting me know that a recent hourly appointment of his was

>none other than reality nudist Richard Hatch! Why was I not

>surprised?"

 

So much for high professional standards.

 

Barry

[Curmudgeon]

>So much for high professional standards.

 

Agree.

 

His clients ought to be squirming in their seats. x(

 

 

The problem with making something foolproof is the universe keeps making better fools.

[jackhammer91406]

His attempts at fame may lead him to infamy.

Bad form. Clients beware.

[splendidpup]

What was the point of name-dropping another escort, except to insinuate, with no evidence or at least none given, that Bobby Thompson was the source of the Richard Hatch story? While it is an ethical violation to broadcast an unsubstantiated story about a celebrity's escort hiring practices on a blog, it is also terribly wrong to suggest that another escort lacks the necessary discretion.

 

Ben

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/benla.html

[+ glutes]

>The negative comments on Benji's 15 Minutes have stopped

>lately, but that does not mean the blog is any better. I still

>read it, mostly for laughs -- unexplained lengthy hospital

>visits, people who instantly know BN in chat rooms, silly

>Vegas reviews, expensive vacations & flight upgrades.

>

>The subtext of every blog is: I'm an important person. Given

>Benji's insecurity, it would be a surprise if he did not talk

>about his high profile clients in private. Richard Hatch seems

>to like publicity --

>any type. I doubt that the same is true for other well known

>people who hire escorts.

 

Why does this juicy gossip not suprise me? Remember that the Right Reverend BenJamin has a history of exposing clients: from a high offical in the Catholic church, to even a judge in my own backyard.

Suffice to say that if you hire him, just give him an alias and tell him you work in a Chinese laundry.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It's not BT or SA who dropped the news. Let's just leave it at that.

 

Furthermore, i wouldn't consider this a breach of personal confidentiality on my part, as Hatch wasn't ever my client. Doug's attempts, yet again, to stir the pot with any escort not admitting to being a 'cheap, easy hooker' is becoming old hat. His vendettas are now his trademark around here.

 

Well, his vendettas and threatening to beat people with a baseball bat

 

At no time in my blog have i ever discussed who i see or who i've seen in a personal and revealing way. It will remain that way. Like it or not, i continue to work hard and provide the very best for my guys. My reviews are consistant, professional and speak well of my abilities.

 

Those of you who pass judgement on something you've yet to experience (while basing your facts on fiction) confuse me. I find it lacking that you'd rather just jump on the bandwagon than take the time to get to know someone and find out the truth. While this MC can sometimes be a great exchange of ideas, it's often been bogged down with people trying to put other people 'in their place' for one reason or another.

 

As always, i'll continue to post here on the MC. I just wanted to share my point-of-view on this.

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

~BN

[MiamiLooker]

>

>Furthermore, i wouldn't consider this a breach of personal

>confidentiality on my part, as Hatch wasn't ever my client.

 

 

So as long as they're not your client, you don't consider it a breach of confidentiality to publish what another escort has told you about their client? You gotta be fuckin kiddin!

[jackhammer91406]

twists and turns

 

Hey Ben,

I have frequently come to your (and others) defense when the tables were turned so to speak and there were unfair attacks on you. So don't assume I am jumping on ANY bandwagon young man.

 

I no longer read your blog (no time) so if you did reveal that you heard that Richard Hatch was hiring L.A. based escorts, it casts a shadow not only on you (for spreading this gossip) but also on L.A. escorts in general that they would be lax in their discretion on this point. I have no other axe to grind here.

 

I realize you have to walk a fine line with your blog to make it entertaining and interesting.

Hey gossip is fine when it involves outrageous public actions of public people, but, the activities described were private and are illegal in this state. The service you provide to your guys should include discretion (which I assume it does.) But this gives the impression to possible new clients that there may be cause for concern. Take a look at the long view and I think you might agree.

 

Anyway, just calling it as I see it.

[Barry]

>Doug - Why must you be on such a vendetta? You bore me, you

>really do.

 

Now that you've addressed what you perceive are Doug's motives, would you like to address the primary subject of his post?

 

Barry

[Barry]

>Furthermore, i wouldn't consider this a breach of personal

>confidentiality on my part, as Hatch wasn't ever my client.

 

I can't even believe you would attempt this rationalization. So based on this, clients here would be well advised not to hire anyone who speaks to you lest they appear in your gossip column.

 

Everybody fucks up from time to time but in this case you aren't saying OOPS. You actually believe you did nothing wrong and that young man is just plain scary.

 

Barry

[Guest JohnPela]

>>Furthermore, i wouldn't consider this a breach of personal

>>confidentiality on my part, as Hatch wasn't ever my client.

>

>I can't even believe you would attempt this rationalization.

>So based on this, clients here would be well advised not to

>hire anyone who speaks to you lest they appear in your gossip

>column.

>

>Everybody fucks up from time to time but in this case you

>aren't saying OOPS. You actually believe you did nothing

>wrong and that young man is just plain scary.

>

>Barry

 

Barry sums it all up and I couldn't have said it better. Also agree with Jackhammer and others. We have no business knowing about Hatch's or any other celebrity (even the 15 minute kind) personal choice in sex or use of escorts. How would an escort like BN like it if his escorting work was told to people he did not want to know about it?

[Doug69]

>How would an escort

>like BN like it if his escorting work was told to people he

>did not want to know about it?

 

And allow me to just add that this behavior is, by no means, confined to this one Richard Hatch disclosure. Instead, Benjamin systematically and habitually discloses confidential and personal information about his clients.

 

As Glutes pointed out, there are numerous people who have hired Benjamin only to find that he thereafter disclosed personal details about them to other clients who subsequently hired him (as in: "Do you know so-and-so on Hooboy? You won't believe what he does for a living . . . . "). The way that I (and so many others) found out that a particular poster/client here is a Priest and church official is because that poster hired Benji, who then told several other posters here who hired Benji.

 

And, as I pointed out, a fawning client of Benjamin's this week boasted on Benjamin's Yahoo Group (where messages are posted ONLY if Benjamin approves of them) that if you hire Benjamin, he'll give you some names of people who have hired him before. As the Benji fan wrote:

 

<<Benjamin is much too discrete to divulge publicly the men he has

topped. However, if you meet him in person, he might disclose one or two. Believe me; you will be impressed.>>

 

Mild-manner and neutral posters here have tried to post about Benji's propensity to disclose client information in order to warn people, but the threads were usually locked before light could be shed on it. It's nice that Benjamin - unwittingly - revealed and documented it himself on both his blog and his Yahoo Group.

 

And the fact that Benji sociopathically defends this behavior, as do the usual handful of Benji followers, only shows the serious danger in hiring him - at least if you care at all about your privacy.

[LovesYng]

>So much for high professional standards.

>

>Barry

 

When has he ever had any "HIGH PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS"

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[VaHawk]

Really? If all BN does is discuss other clients via their HB persona, without revealing the client's real identity, and only in response to the subsequent client's inquiry about that HB persona, then where is the harm?

 

Any client who met BN, or any other escort, based on his postings here would most likely discuss this board and the people who post here. If he then revealed that a questioned about HB persona guy hired me and this is what he is and what he is like, without revealing any personal info about the guy, so what? IMO, no harm and no foul!

 

BFD that he revealed that Hatch, an openly gay individual, had hired an escort? BN reported it as an item, told to him, not as an irrefutable FACT! The media outlets do this ALL the time!, and if the individual feels that he was wronged then he/she is free to sue for libel.

 

As to the reference to that "Catholic individual" what harm was done, as he didn't reveal his true identity? If he did so, then post that individual's information, but he didn't, so you can't!

 

BN, imo, and in my experiences, would not disclose his client's personal info, as what would he gain by doing so? So far, I haven't seen him do anything of the sort.

 

Not to mention, that many of his clients also have his personal info, and like BN, no matter how many indignant, trolling posters RANT, they also will not reveal HIS personal info. That's called mutual respect. I have never seen BN dishonor that respect, so keep trolling, as you might EVENTUALLY catch a snipe in your net.

[jackhammer91406]

>Really? If all BN does is discuss other clients via their HB

>persona, without revealing the client's real identity, and

>only in response to the subsequent client's inquiry, then

>where is the harm?

>

By your reasoning, if an escort is asked for information by another client. then the escort is allowed to release that info? Huh?

Speaking hypothetically of course, I think the harm comes from having an expectation that an escort will keep his mouth shut about other clients, regardless. Unless I give an escort consent to speak about my online identity with other clients, then I think that crosses the line. Sorry. that's what I think.

 

>Any client who met BN based on his postings here would most

>likely discuss this board and the people who post here. If he

>then revealed that HB persona guy hired me and this is what he

>is and is like, without revealing any other info about the

>guy, where is the harm?

 

See above. I think most guys would admit that this would make them feel uncomfortable with hiring an escort. Now, I have met Ben, and he is a nice, polite, bright guy. Of course he is attractive as well. I have no doubt that the reason he gets great reviews is because he makes his clients feel good. But really, in addition to feeling good, I want to believe that the escort is not going to openly talk about our encounter with anyone who might recognise my profile name.

>

>So what that he revealed that Hatch, and openly gay

>individual, had hired an escort? BN reported it as an item,

>told to him, not as an irrefutable FACT!

 

Well, then as such, it would be gossip, yes? And personally, I hate gossip and have little affection for the people who engage in it. I am just saying if any escort wants to portray himself as a class act, he should think twice about doing this.

>

>As to the reference to that "Catholic individual" what harm

>was done, as he didn't reveal his true identity? If he did

>so, then post that individuals information, but he didn't so

>you can't!

 

True, he may not have revealed the man's name, but enough was said to other clients to easily identify that person as a high ranking church official in that city. C'mon Hawk. This parsing on behalf of Ben is threatening your own credibility. If you are reflective with yourself, were this done by ANY other escort, your reaction would not be the same.

>

>BN, imo, would not disclose his client's personal info, as

>what would he gain by doing so? So far, I haven't seen him do

>anything of the sort.

 

Well, the fact is, many people have heard first hand from some of his clients about info that does identify some clients. That's Fact. I am sorry to be the one, but Hawk, you know my rep here. I will stand up for escorts, but when I think they have made a mistake, I will say so. This can all go away without much more damage if Ben shows some wisdom and rethinks his response to this. but you defending him is not going to clear my mind on this. Not that it matters to you what I think, but people who KNOW me would consider me a fair minded man.

>

>Not to mention, that many of his clients have his personal

>info, and like BN, no matter how many indignant, trolling

>posters RANT, also will not reveal HIS personal info. That's

>called mutual respect by honoring the agreement.

 

That may be mutual respect and I applaud the club's honor code, but it does not address what is being talked about here.

 

I was made aware of the facts in this instance some time ago when the original allegations of escort indiscretion first appeared, and believe me, what was repeated was information that should NEVER have been told to any other client or club member, whether they pinky swore or not.

[+ deej]

Changed my mind. Jackhammer covered it.

[seaboy4hire]

Regardless if what BN posted about Richard are true or not BN could be facing some legal issues if Richard or his people find out what he had posted on his blog.

 

Hugs,

Greg

Greg Seattle Wa seaboy4hire@yahoo.com

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/gregseattle.html

http://seaboy4hire.tripod.com

[+ deej]

It'll be Cruise v. Bradford all over again.

 

A lawsuit that goes nowhere but we'll get to hear Nancy O'Dell on Access Hollywood say the words "Male Prostitute". Ooooh.

 

Better hope it's a slow news^H^H^H^H gossip week.

[VaHawk]

>Speaking hypothetically of course, I think the harm comes

>from having an expectation that an escort will keep his mouth

>shut about other clients, regardless.

 

No disrespect intended, but really, just because you live in LA, the world is not Disneyland. All escorts, in my experiences, freely discuss previous clients, when asked to do so.

 

>Unless I give an escort

>consent to speak about my online identity with other clients,

>then I think that crosses the line. Sorry. that's what I

>think.

 

Sorry, I disagree. No one knows your real identity on this site, unless you choose to disclose it!, which you have done so, and others have done so, with all your litte HB dinners and drink meetings. If a "personality" from this site, is not known by the client, then discusssing such "personality" with an escort, is fair game and in no way violates that "personality's" confidence.

 

>But really, in addition to feeling good, I want to believe

>that the escort is not going to openly talk about our

>encounter with anyone who might recognise my profile name.

 

Discussing an encounter with a "profile name" with a client who does not know anything about that "profile name" and the escort knows that, is not any kind of violation, imo.

 

>Well, then as such, it would be gossip, yes? And personally,

>I hate gossip and have little affection for the people who

>engage in it. I am just saying if any escort wants to portray

>himself as a class act, he should think twice about doing

>this.

 

You're entitled to your opinion about gossip, but as a celebrity yourself, as you yourself have revealed more than once on this board, then you KNOW that "celebrity gossip" is a BOOMING business.

 

> True, he may not have revealed the man's name, but enough was

>said to other clients to easily identify that person as a high

>ranking church official in that city.

 

The only thing that could be identified was that person's online handle, NOTHING else, and that only by posters on this site, familiar with his online handle.

 

>C'mon Hawk. This parsing on behalf of Ben is threatening your own credibility. If you are reflective with yourself, were this done by ANY other escort, your reaction would not be the same.

 

C'mon Jack, I have never been noted for "parsing" or beating around the proverbial bush. I ALWAYS speak my mind, no holds barred. And yes, OTHER escorts engage in the same behavior with clients, and if you think otherwise, then get off the teacup ride.

>>

>Well, the fact is, many people have heard first hand from some

>of his clients about info that does identify some clients.

 

As I stated above, if you PUBLICIZE who you are with tea ceremonies, then you have ONLY yourself to blame that a comment about your online handle identifies your true identity to those whom you drink tea with.

 

>This can all go away without much more damage if Ben shows some wisdom and rethinks his response to this. but you defending him is not going to clear my mind on this. Not that it matters to you what I think, but people who KNOW me would consider me a fair minded

>man.

 

Yeah, and everyone who disagrees is not fair minded, huh? I'm not defending BN, as I don't see any thing that he has done that needs defending. In case you haven't noticed, BN is an adult, who is in no way NEEDING me or anyone else to defend him.

 

Why should Ben have to "show" some wisdom and rethink his response to anyone? I thought his words stated his position quite well. The problem seems to be that so many client posters here feel that an escort has to meet the "judgmental" criteria of the few clients that post here, who ACTUALLY hire.

 

>>Not to mention, that many of his clients have his personal

>>info, and like BN, no matter how many indignant, trolling

>>posters RANT, also will not reveal HIS personal info.

>That's

>>called mutual respect by honoring the agreement.

>

>That may be mutual respect and I applaud the club's honor

>code, but it does not address what is being talked about

>here.

 

No, how so? Oh that's right you SAID so, so it must be TRUE!

 

>I was made aware of the facts in this instance some time ago

>when the original allegations of escort indiscretion first

>appeared, and believe me, what was repeated was information

>that should NEVER have been told to any other client or club

>member, whether they pinky swore or not.

 

Pinky swore? WTF is that? And who made you "aware" of those facts? I would guess some of your tea sipping buddies at one of those LA meetings? If you don't want anyone to know WHO you are, then DON'T meet them outside a message board and DISCLOSE your personal information! Pretty simple concept, huh?

[jackhammer91406]

Clarity

 

VH,

Just so we're clear, I am not at all concerned about Ben revealing my identity. I have never hired him. We met in a social situation. He is perfectly free to discuss his impression of me at that meeting and in fact relay in detail my actions. I wasn't breaking any law at the time (celebrity or not).

 

As for the catholic clergyman, I notice he doesn't post much here anymore since that revelation. I wonder how he feels about all of this, since he was a big supporter. Unless and until he comes here to say he was cool with what happened and no confidence was broken, I will stay with my opinion.

 

My response was to try to point out why Ben's position might turn off future clients. Of course if he enjoys a thriving response rate, he need not worry about my opinion. It is only MHO.

 

But thanks for your advice.

[Rick Munroe]

Gossip is such a waste of time. I'm like jackhammer; I have no use for it. I find or try to find a lot of (if not most) things in life fun or interesting in one way or another, but gossip is something that completely disinterests me. Discretion is the golden rule of escorting; for me, respecting others' privacy is right up there with cleanliness, safety, and empathy (and making sure everyone has a good time, which goes without saying) (so why did I just say it? :o ).

 

I agree with everyone who thought it was wrong for the LA escort to kiss and tell, and worse for another escort to post about it on the internet. When I saw it, I thought, "Ay-yi-yi, that wasn't cool." (Yes, sometimes I speak like a combination of Ricky Ricardo and The Fonz ).

[Chuck50]

RE: Clarity

 

Not sure how it got deflected from VM to BN but only on this board. HUGS Chuck