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Joe Ray Hanks, in his (IMO) obnoxious response to today's negative review, refers to the client by what appears to be his real first name. Is this tolerated by the editorial policy of this site? If so, I was unaware of it, and will cease reviewing, which I do under a different handle.

 

BTW - don't jump to conclusions. I didn't write the review in question.

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>Joe Ray Hanks, in his (IMO) obnoxious response to today's

>negative review, refers to the client by what appears to be

>his real first name. Is this tolerated by the editorial

>policy of this site?

 

Here's what Barry the Moderator said about this issue as it pertains to the policy of allowing the use of real first names in the Message Center:

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Barry Wed Jul-06-05 07:05 PM

Charter member

1267 posts

 

#11376, "RE: minimal expectations"

In response to Reply # 40

 

>Posting someone's first name is OK now?

>Scott claiming to have been involved in escorting as a minor

>(he's not 21 yet & has done this for 4 years) is OK now?

>Wasn't there some big meltdown not that long ago out of

>concerns about legal issues? Is Scott trying to ruin the

>site? I'll be issuing an alert now.

 

Thanx....got the alert.

 

As for first names, I have never considered them a violation of the rules. The first time someone referred to HooBoy as Michael, he didn't edit it out. In fact he thought all the fuss that followed was funny.

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Looks like this site, at least as far as the message center is concerned, allows people to use your real first name whether you have authorized it or not.

 

I wonder how deej, the resident Site Apologist, feels about that?

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Thanks for the information, Doug - I didn't know. I'm glad to see that at least I'm not the only person here who feels uncomfortable about this. I really will have to reconsider whether I want to continue to write reviews. There is absolutely no advantage to me in doing so, and now I see that there is more potential disadvantage than I had realized.

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Ummm... how do you know that it's his real name?

If people are concerned about their identity, they should

use a pseudonym. No?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there

is a need to post someone's name. But, if he was upset about it,

wouldn't he be the one to complain first? Or maybe he thought it

would blow over and no one would notice... until a string of messages

caught everyone's attention. ;-)

Just my opinion.

-Chris

http://www.chriscrawfordxxx.com

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>Ummm... how do you know that it's his real name?

>If people are concerned about their identity, they should

>use a pseudonym. No?

 

Umm... I don't know it's his real name. That's why I said that it "appeared" to be his real name. It certainly appears that the escort thinks so, and is intentionally using it (twice).

 

Some guys who hire escorts use fake identities. I don't. It can lead to real awkwardness - I pay for dinner at a restaurant and he happens to see my real name on the credit card; we go to pick up tickets that are on reserve under my real name at the box office; we run into a friend of mine at a social event. It's pretty hard to maintain a false name with an escort if you go on a trip with him for a week. etc. etc.

 

I generally trust in people's integrity, and have never noticed that the integrity of escorts is lower than that of the general population. Rather the reverse, in fact.

 

If an escort works under an assumed name I would never think of revealing his real identity if I knew it (and I know many). I would expect and count on the same decency.

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>Umm... I don't know it's his real name. That's why I said

>that it "appeared" to be his real name. It certainly appears

>that the escort thinks so, and is intentionally using it

>(twice).

 

The one thing I will say with regard to this specific review is that I think you are being a little unfair to the escort. If you look at the very bottom of the review, the reviewer SIGNED HIS OWN NAME as "Viktor." Presumably, the escort used this name NOT because he wanted to disclose the client's real name, but because that was how the reviewer identified himself in the review.

 

Having said that, the general point still applies: at least with regard to the Message Center, this forum has an announced, express policy (by Barry) that it will allow your real name to be posted even if you didn't authorize that and, presumably, even if you don't want it.

 

Of course escorts may learn something about the client during the course of the session, including the client's first name, just as a client can easily learn an escort's real first name. The risk is particularly acute for the person whose apartment is being used (stray mail laying around, names on buzzers, etc.).

 

One would expect this forum not permit that information to be disclosed here, but one would be wrong in that expectation.

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>The one thing I will say with regard to this specific review

>is that I think you are being a little unfair to the escort.

>If you look at the very bottom of the review, the reviewer

>SIGNED HIS OWN NAME as "Viktor." Presumably, the escort used

>this name NOT because he wanted to disclose the client's real

>name, but because that was how the reviewer identified himself

>in the review.

 

You're right. I hadn't noticed this. If I had, I wouldn't have started this thread. Oh well.

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If you have a common name like Joe, Bill, or Michael, I'd think having your first name here would be no big deal. But, if you have a name that is not so common, like mine, it is an issue especially since it is common knowledge what part of the country I live in. So I personally wouldn't want my first name mentioned here.

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I'm totally in agreement with KY_Top on the use of first names. Since I do NOT use anything close to my real name on this site I would go ballastic if someone took it upon themselves to disclose it.

 

Privacy issues, especially with escorts and some members on this site, has really become a hot button with me in the past couple of months. IMHO too many "school yard bullies" have taken up residence on the internet and there is a total lack of respect for manners, privacy, or even civility.

 

No one has the right to disclose my personal info without my permission and I no longer trust escorts to respect my wishes. (At least my wallet is a little fatter since I've limited my hiring.)

 

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"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain -- and most fools do." Dale Carnegie

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>I wonder how deej, the resident Site Apologist, feels about

>that?

 

I see that "Daddy" deleted the part of my post where I used deej's first name - in the very same post where I quoted Barry, in response to an Alert, refusing to delete the disclosure of another member's first name based on Barry's statement that this Forum (consistent with Hooboy's wishes) allows members to disclose people's real first names.

 

So, permit me to amend my understanding of this Board's policy with regard to someone using someone else's real first name - disclosure of a member's real first name here will be permitted and is not a violation of the rules and will not be deleted (according to Barry), UNLESS the member is someone with special pull with the Forum Daddy, in which case use of that member's real first name is prohibited and will be deleted.

 

I wouldn't want to be describing the Forum's policies inaccurately, so I trust that this amendment rectifies that problem.

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2. No personal information may be posted about other posters. This includes all information that could identify a person, including photographs and other images. Personal information that an individual has publicly provided may be allowed in some cases. But we ask you to always err on the side of respecting the others who come here and those who are the subject of discussion here.

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>If you have a common name like Joe, Bill, or Michael, I'd

>think having your first name here would be no big deal. But,

>if you have a name that is not so common, like mine, it is an

>issue especially since it is common knowledge what part of the

>country I live in. So I personally wouldn't want my first name

>mentioned here.

 

 

Seriously bro, who the fuck names their child "KY" :+ :+ :+

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