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PW, you are probably right, maybe I shouldn't use the word racism here, but none the last, it's just very close-minded. And the world population is largely diversed. I find that Straight guys are more accepted to exotic beauty, but in the gay world, that is much less so. But I do see changes. I think the younger generations are much more acceptance in diversity. And just like the gay rights movement, minority movement had help to achieve that.

 

Actually I am more insulted by Josephqa's comment. "Do i take blacks and Asian men as massage clients? yes because in my case its limited to hand touch only and i feel that by limiting my services to just that i can be fair too anyone.." He might think that's no big deal, but in his head, he think he is doing a favor to his black or asian clients. That is just so insulting.

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look at it another way. i only offer hand contact only massage because i can take anyone regardless if im attractive too them or not. I dont find females attractive but i take them as clients. i opertate my services in away that no one gets turned down. and i take great offense to being called a rascist and this will be my final post on this site take care guys..

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>If you think people are too sensitive about your rejecting

>all other guys base on their race, then that is a form of

>racism. You aganist someone base on his race is racism. For

>example, if you have to choose between a really attractive

>muscular young asian guy or a older, out of shape white guy,

>and you choose the white guy, for no other reason but his

>race, then that's racism. Just because you think it's not

>personal to you, it is personal to the none white race. It is

>very hurtful to see someone write you off for your race, just

>like a muscle guy write off a average guy, it's a form of

>prejudice. Nothing against you personally, I just felt this

>issue should be address by someone other than a white guy.

 

 

 

Well, being that you attempted to actually write a decent rebuttal without insults or mean words, I will give you a well thought out reply and from my end at least, reply.

 

 

 

Fact. I am not attracted to certain races. I cannot change that. So how is it wrong? I am gay, but to alot of people, that is wrong. I cannot just CHANGE that as if I have a choice. I like men. To my family, homosexuality is the WORSE thing you could ever do.

In their eyes, its wrong, im my eyes, it is ME. Should I change who i am just because a group of people find it wrong?

 

 

See, the world has this problem. It oppresses groups of people who aren't like the majority. It happens in school, church, everyday life and everwhere else you can think. Its a scientific proven fact that people tend to dislike to push away those who dont believe, think, and live like them. Its natural. Here, Ill give you a few cases in point.

 

 

 

Slavery. Black people were enslaved and brought over from africa and were mistreated, beaten and sometimes even hung. Just for being black. A black person was thought to be lower, less intelligent and overall nothing more then a piece of farm equipment. Hell, in some religions, if you were caught having sex with a black person, you were put to death. See the Mormon religion I believe.

 

Now, its the opposite. Most black people walk around with a chip on their shoulder for that which their GREAT grandparents went through and benefit from their suffering and pain. Hell, black people are self admittedly some of the most racist people alive. There are cases all over the US and the world of white kids being beaten and killed just for the color of their skin. COngresswomen thinking they can get into the Pentagon without ID who were refused and stopped, and tried to make it a race thing. EVERYTHING these days is a race thing. If you dont like chocolate, apparently it means you "hate niggers". Sigh.

 

 

 

 

Gay People.

Do I have to preach and give history to you about this topic being this IS a GAY escort board? I should hope not. But knowing the history , some people STILL judge others. Its ironic. a group of people can go hundreds of years of downright horrible and heinous treatment, finally get freedom, and then what do they do? They of all people jump on others for not being like them.

 

 

The point to this whole thing is this:

 

Just because someone is different than you, dont judge them. FOr fucks sake dont label them, as you are now guilty of the very thing you obviously fear the most. Being labeled.

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Actually I am more insulted by Josephqa's comment. "Do i take

>blacks and Asian men as massage clients? yes because in my

>case its limited to hand touch only and i feel that by

>limiting my services to just that i can be fair too anyone.."

>He might think that's no big deal, but in his head, he think

>he is doing a favor to his black or asian clients. That is

>just so insulting.

 

 

 

 

 

Dude, you just dont get it.

Stop throwing that word around.

 

fuck, I cant stand it.

EVERYTHING these days is racist. We already are expected to change things about us in the professional world, and how the hell can you expect us to change things in the private. If they guy doesnt want to see specific people as clients, then who gives a fuck? that is HIS choice.

 

You know, you people, yes I mean blacks, are gonna use that word SO much that the general public will soon ignore you all over again.

 

Stop crying wolf, and leave the crying "RACISM" to the real cases.

 

Like, BET, and Black History Month, and clubs sporting "blacks only" motifs...not to mention the rap culture etc.

 

Dont get me started on reverse racism.

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I am sure most may concentrate on your views of the use of the word racism, I am actually commenting on your personal issue of being gay. I am sorry to here that you have not been able to resolve your lifestyle with your family. I hope you have someone or group of people you can lean on in your personal life. I will be honest with you that I am very fortunate to have a large family with even a brother who is gay.

 

When I am with guys I hire which is usually no less than 3 hours many times overnights we do tend to get around to talking about our personal lives and for those who are gay I always hope they have someone they are close too. I do worry about the guys who do not have family or close friends this time of year. Being gay is tough enough, being gay and escort well many times is more than frowned upon in the community. Families have so many issues these days that a lifestyle that is not chosen but who you are seems like such an unnecessary burden to have carry around without at least having a family to share life with. I hope someday your family will allow their hearts to soften what society has taught them.

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According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another race or races.

 

I don't usually find myself sexually attracted to blonds. Does that make me a "blondist"? On the other hand, if someone categorically denies that he has never and will never be attracted in any way to a member of a specific race and goes around publishing the fact, that sounds pretty close to racist to me.

 

I grew up in a small town in the Midwest that was about as white as white can get. When I went off to college I'd never had any kind of acquaintance or friendship with anyone of another ethnic background. I used to think that I wasn't attracted to African Americans and Asians. I've come to realize that belief was a factor of the severely limited cultural/representational world I grew up in.

 

One doesn't have to live in a cosmopolitan city like New York very long to learn that there are a lot of ultra-hot people of every race and that all flavors and colors can present individuals that are a hell of a lot of fun in the sack.

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Guest zipperzone

>>>Lookin' good! Both then and now! }(

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>>I agree - he's VERY good looking - too bad his racist mind

>>doesn't match up.

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>Racist mind?...What makes him racist?...

>

 

I guess you have not read his various posts over the past few months.

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>>>>Lookin' good! Both then and now! }(

>>>

>>>I agree - he's VERY good looking - too bad his racist mind

>>>doesn't match up.

>>

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>>Racist mind?...What makes him racist?...

>>

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>I guess you have not read his various posts over the past few

>months.

 

 

 

Tell you what zipper. If you spend any more time on my nuts, I am going to have to charge rent. :)

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Interesting photos. Actually, they reminded me of my boyfriend who was an AirForce vet (and, in particular, the first boyfriend I had that had been in the military: He is the one that I gave my virginity to and happily so. Though we are no longer in communication, I wish him well; and look upon the time I spent with him in private and otherwise as a beautiful experience.

 

I hope that someday when I am out of the industry I will be able to be in a true mutual love relationship with a nice fellow. In all honesty, I don't think that there are many out there who could accept me still being in the industry while being seriously involved with another at the same time.

 

I envision that someday I won't be doing "this" any longer, but who knows what the future exactly holds for me?

 

MIKEY

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I agree mikey08 I think it would be hard too be in a relationship with you in the industry. even though my massage services are limited to a hand release i dont date. i havent been on a date in over 27 months because i dont think it would be fair. i myself wouldnt put up with it. i have friends that say but its just a hand release. i dont care i wouldnt put up with it from a partner so at this time I need this job and money more than a relationship so i choose to not date..

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It seems, Joe, that in many areas of life there are sacrifices that one must make: some expected and others unanticipated. There were periods while working as an erotic masseur, at least in the somewhat distant past, that I had some short-term relationships: However, my recollection is that essentially I took "breaks" and did not engage in the work when there was at least the potential for a serious relationship with anyone; and in part this was because some of these gents had old-fashioned and/or traditional values and just were likely to misperceive what I was engaged in.

 

I'd rather not go into here as to the whole escort thing, but, yes, it is true that being an escort or for that matter doing anything in the "industry" is something that others, even those who were presumably, friends at times misperceive; and I am no exception to that.

 

In all likelihood when my personal circumstances change I will no longer be an escort someday. Frankly, I think that for those who have managed to have boyfriends and/or life partners or even spouses (i.e., gone the legal route where that is still possible) and remain in the industry, I am happy for their happiness.

 

Yet, ultimately, I would still do what worked best for me.

 

As for the dating thing, I think I will probably still date on occasion: I enjoy romance and love dating. I will probably stop working in the industry if something becomes serious with someone I am dating. Certainly I hope to have a true mutual love relationship with my soulmate someday (but I am not naive; and I am definitely not holding my breath in anticipation of a "Pretty Woman" happy ending for me).

 

MIKEY

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I found myself in this after a battle with colon cancer. i lost every thing i had due to not having proper insurance. i was making a salary doing massage and other duties in a sports clinic. but it wasn't pulling in enough to survive. Now im down to oweing just over 5000.00 left in those medical bills. I'm hoping with good money managing to have those bills paid off this time next year..

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