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Hi, just before the old board was retired, someone posted a note about erotic massages vs. escorts, and what was the difference, besides obviously, the price? I wanted to respond and hopefully get some feedback from other members of the erotic-enjoyment community. It seems to me there is a range of services that could be provided and purchased. Massage-Time is purchased for pain or stress relief, or having the confidence that a particular masseur can transport you into trance-like Dream-Time. If the massage moves into sexual areas--I mean, why leave out that six-square inch section if you're working on relaxing the rest of the body head to toe?--it can involve anything from a hand-job, to a full fledged suck&fuck fest. Escorts can provide more specific fantasy-fulfillment of various sexual or erotic scripts, which is also really a lot of work when you think about it! Escort-Time is also puchased for various non-sexual services such as dinner, business or family functions, etc. And yr often reimbursing an Escorts for the thousands of hours of Gym-time it took to keep him looking that way!! Personally, I'm in favor of any mutually consensual activity between adults and if a price is involved, to be negotiated between buyer and seller. A great massage is an awesome experience and so is great sex, so combining the two can be "Double Yr Pleasure". So why shouldn't the masseur/sex-pert get paid for what the experience is worth?

 

Some guys really want a hustler or escort-type sexual experience but dont want to pay double or triple the usual masseur's rate to get it. It would be pretty annoying to a masseur to work on a guy, young or old, who wants everything on the sexual menu for $50 bucks an hour. In massage, like in most businesses, You get what you pay for, so why do guys think they are going to get a complete suck/fuck/fest for $50. Then of course, there are the muscle boys who think that a masseur should work sweating an hour or two in exchange for touching their hot bod, or having sex with them. Which sometimes works out O.K.! But if they are trading sex for valuable services, what does that make them? (Answer: Men who Sell their Sex for Money). These are the same guys who usually think they are too "hot" to pay for sex.

 

Masseurs of the licensed or certified variety are legally restricted from providing sexual services. Of course, so are escorts, but that doesn't stop most of them. These legal restrictions prevent most licensed masseurs from discussing any specifics of sexual services they may provide, alluding instead to a "complete release" or "full body rub". This is unfortunate since the buyer doesn't really know what he is getting and the seller may be expected to provide more sex than he's interested to.

 

My observation is, that Masseurs don't make very good Hustlers, and Hustlers don't make very good Masseurs. With a few notable exceptions, such as some who are reviewed on this web-site. In a perfect world, everyone could be good at everything, but the different requirements of these two professions--massaging and escorting---require different trainings and commitments of time. Many massages can feel good, but the better ones require some considerable training in technique and anatomy, and usually aren't performed on a bed, which is too soft and wide for any adequate leverage or deeper pressure. If a guy is only being paid for a massage, why should he put the effort into creating a fantasy of top/bottom/affectionate cuddler etc. That takes a lot of mental and physical stamina. That's why it's called "Sex Work". Otherwise it would just be called Sex Fun. In a perfect world, everyone could work at what they found to be the most fun for them. Some Escorts/and-or/Masseurs have reached this enviable state of doing Work they Love.

 

Also found very interesting the recent posting that ended in words to this effect: "Let's face it, guys, we aren't paying for a fantasy, we are paying for the time." I don't think that's exactly true, because whatever price yr paying you want to get a certain experience out of it, whether an entertaining and handsome dinner companion, a hot stud topman, a cuddly bottom, a trance-inducing massage or whatever. Paying for "time" is the legal ruse used to avoid the authorities--and taxation, thank god!--and as long as it works, well, don't fix it. Sorry if I took this comment out of context, but I don't have the complete text to refer to until the HooBoy puts the Bulletin Board archives back. (Please!!) Would welcome any comments or experience anyone wants to share in these areas.

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I was in Vancouver last year & called for a massage. The masseur charged the massage rate and said on a tipping scale, he will go further, ie. touch is dick, j/o,....Though the massage felt good, I may have been better off calling an escort.

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-16-00 AT 02:12AM (CST)[p]Well for me, I call a masseur when I'm all tensed up or those darn aches and pains that have been creeping up as I advance in age show up.

 

I call a escort, when I want to have GET all tensed up and.....(Well, I leave it to your imagination).

 

In either case, I'm up front about what I want when I contact them and I really would rather not have the rules of the games change in mid-stream.

 

--Bill

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Since I'm relatively new at all this, I'm still a bit confused by the difference.

Last week I hired my first masseur in LA, who advertised an "erotic" massage in which he would get nude. (He was, by the way, reommended by folks on this fabulous site, but I'll omit his name since I guess we're supposed to be discreet about masseurs.)

Anyway, as per his instructions, I got naked and on my stomach on my bed, he got naked on top of me, he was BEAUTIFUL, muscled, hot, nice, friendly, and proceeded to give me a great massage, his dick occasionally brushing my back, buns, etc. Very hot - but a bit confusing.

He finally had me roll over, gave me a massage in front and began working my dick, at which point (unsure of the etiquette but hormones afire) I began stroking his legs, butt, etc, finally asking permission to play with his dick, which he readily gave.

Within a few minutes I was hungrily sucking him off, and having as much fun as I ever do with an escort, since this is what I like to do anyway.

When we were done, I pretended to have forgotten his rate (he had quoted $100), in order to give him a chance to raise it if I had gone too far. But no, he said that'll be $100. And that was that.

Hence my confusion.

I like to suck muscle boys, and I am not spectacularly wealthy, so price matters. I see lots of muscle boys advertising "erotic massages" for from $50 to $100, right next to guys advertising "escort" services for TWICE THAT, at least.

Was my massage guy a fabulous abberation, or do all these massage guys who advertise their dick size and their perfect buns along with their massage expertice allow you to suck them? Because if so, what am I doing hiring escorts? With the massage boys, you get to suck, you get a nice massage, and you pay half the rate - right?

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I, uh, "know" a masseur who advertises in Houston's TWT as Bill. He completely agrees with many of the points above. Massage is to relax, escorting is to excite, generally speaking. Flirting is to distract the client so that the massage can go deeper into his muscles. A masseur who is naked and allows himself to be touched while he is that way is an escort. If he is not charging the same as the other escorts, but is offering more services - muscle relaxation - than they are is either a bad businessman or has a low self esteem.

There is the possibility with many masseurs who go with the Tao of the situation that you might have available a fully optional section towards the end, but since that excites you and the overall effect wanted is relaxation, some of them then will guide you through a meditation to bring you back into the state of relaxation he had already induced in you or even deeper.

There is even a finer line between leather Masters for hire and masseurs in that both of them are focused on doing things to your body and enjoying your reactions to them, the opposite of do-me boys. However, we can see here even more clearly the difference in overall effect desired.

One evening my Tarot card reading teacher, after having had a Rolfing session (the most painful massage, I think, as it aims in realigning your muscles, etc, rather than just relaxing them) asked me, "Are all masseurs SM Masters?"

By the way, one way to meet me before you hire me as an escort would be to hire Bill for a massage. I am always hanging around the place.

Love, Blade

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LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-00 AT 10:15AM (CST)[p]I, too, have had very positive experiences with erotic massage vs. escorts. I was really confused until I read your response above, which was similar to mine. I have used the same guy now for 2 years and we have gotten to be great friends. I don't know what I'd do without him. My first experience was similar to LA's in that he quoted me $80/hr (this is DC), but stayed for 3 hours. At the end, I asked how much I owed him and he replied, "$80." I gave him $100 and have given him $100 everytime thereafter. We sit and talk, watch movies, go to dinner, and sometimes he spends the night. I also get to suck him off, which I love to do. He is a physical beauty, but it's the inter-beauty I keep coming back for!

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No, I'm not that Blade. Now with the internet making us all sort of national I guess there's bound to turn up some names which don't sound common but will reoccur. I have been a callboy on and off since 1973, for a total years on of about 16. Can't say that my use of this name goes back that far, but it does go back before I had heard of him, so don't think I'm trying to trade on his fame, please.

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No, I'm not that Blade. Now with the internet making us all sort of national I guess there's bound to turn up some names which don't sound common but will reoccur. I have been a callboy on and off since 1973, for a total years on of about 16. Can't say that my use of this name goes back that far, but it does go back before I had heard of him, so don't think I'm trying to trade on his fame, please.

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No, I'm not that Blade. Now with the internet making us all sort of national I guess there's bound to turn up some names which don't sound common but will reoccur. I have been a callboy on and off since 1973, for a total years on of about 16. Can't say that my use of this name goes back that far, but it does go back before I had heard of him, so don't think I'm trying to trade on his fame, please.

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Sorry Blade - it was not my intention to accuse you of "trying to trade on his fame". I want to get in touch of Blade Thompson and want to find out if he is doing escorting. Sorry if I put it wrong but I was quite excited to see a "Blade" posting a reply.

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Sorry Blade - it was not my intention to accuse you of "trying to trade on his fame". I want to get in touch of Blade Thompson and want to find out if he is doing escorting. Sorry if I put it wrong but I was quite excited to see a "Blade" posting a reply.

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Sorry Blade - it was not my intention to accuse you of "trying to trade on his fame". I want to get in touch of Blade Thompson and want to find out if he is doing escorting. Sorry if I put it wrong but I was quite excited to see a "Blade" posting a reply.

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Sorry Blade - it was not my intention to accuse you of "trying to trade on his fame". I want to get in touch of Blade Thompson and want to find out if he is doing escorting. Sorry if I put it wrong but I was quite excited to see a "Blade" posting a reply.

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