What's Important to You about Receiving Massage? A Masseur Inquires

[Guest DJPerez]

Hello, All!

 

In my work as a masseur, I strive always to make the service I provide satisfying for each client I touch. Getting feedback from the men I touch always helps me to understand what they expect and want from our time together.

 

Now, I've read discussions here about individual masseurs, so far. I haven't seen any general discussions about what you look for when you are shopping for the optimal masseur for you.

 

This seems a useful forum as any to open up a discussion on what are the key things that you, the consumer, look for in your massage experience. For example:

 

- Do you prefer in-call massage? Or do you like to "order in"?

 

- Do you seek out massage as an affordable touch alternative to escorting? Or is the massage experience the thing that "zings your strings (and other parts! ;-) )"

 

- What's more important: physique or technique?

 

- Is "massage on call" more important to you than "advance appointment"?

 

- What's your favorite 'flavor' of massage: The "Vigorous Sports Rub", the "Luxe Spa Treatment", The "Eroto-Shamanistic 'Bells & Smells' Body Rite"? Others? What experience do you enjoy?

 

Basically, what are your expectations of a quality experience with your masseur? Your feedback could be enlightening and valuable to us professionals who read these boards!

 

Peace & Pleasure!

 

David, Your Boston Masseur

DJPWorld@yahoo.com

[ted]

I enjoy the massage itself, I also enjoy the extras :-) When looking for a masseur I haven't used before, since I don't know a lot about the various techniques, I generally choose on body type(looks), and the website or ads " atmosphere". I generally prefer outcalls, but have done incalls, although if I'm unfamiliar with the neighborhood will think twice. For repeat business I am definitely interested in the quality of the massage, the quality of the body of the masseur, and ....

[Guest TravisNYC]

Are we talking about regular professional massage, sensual/erotic massage or massage/escort?? A friend of mine always tries to get a professional massage, with all the "trimmings" (sex), for $70.00!! He wants it all for a low price. Gee, I wonder why some masseurs won't see him anymore!!!!!!

[Bilbo]

Travis - Which one of the three do you look for most often?

[Guest TravisNYC]

LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-00 AT 05:06PM (EST)[p]I prefer the sensual/erotic massage. For me it is a combination of a sensual experience with enough of a massage to relieve some stress. I love to be pampered in this way. For the sensual massage looks are important as, for me, that will be the ingredient to get me off. I see a sensual massage as a soft massage with the masseur naked and me able to look and touch. No sex. I see a sensual/erotic massage as a "safe-sex" version of "fun". Atmosphere is very important. Music, lighting, etc. Usually this kind of a massage is a spur of the moment thing so like no more than one hour to wait for the appt. With a "professional massage" I do not really care what the person looks like. Appts. can be scheduled in advance. I do care that he is trained and does a good job. In all these situations the appearance and cleanliness of the place are important.

[Guest LOVEHANDLE]

If you are a masseur and are looking for a repeat business, remember this: "truth in advertising" is key. The first impression on the first meeting is usually the determining factor if you will be servicing this particular client from then on. One who advertises with a buffed, lean muscular body and 6'2", with an 8" dick , has to be that and only that. A few handful of your colleagues tend to think that just because the client has called, drove down to see the person, walked up the ten flight of stairs (walk-up, mind you!)for service is someone you can call "in the bag". Au contraire, my friend, we can still take the flightof stairs down as quickly as we had come up and deny you our magnetic presence :7. And more often than not, if a client and a masseur hits if off very quickly and establishes a business relationship (or otherwise):-(, I don't see anything wrong with a masseur giving more than the usual to "keep" the client; especially if he particularly likes him. Wouldn't you rather have a steady 10 than a stream of not so sure 100? I have kept my masseurs and have maintained a more than business relationships with them for years. I pay good and tend to keep it that way, and regardless of what we do in the bedroom (theirs or mine), the masseurs and escorts that I hire are my good friends. And they all know that! I, too, keep a steady of 10 and does not hire a not so sure 100! And if you thought that I have digressed from the topic, I have not! As to your question of technique or physique: A gay client who seeks out a masseur on a gay website or a gay mag expects more than a massage:if I wanted a real massage only experience, I would go to a masseur on my HMO plan, got the picture?

[Guest Chas]

Alright, personnally (and we all have different tastes and are looking for different things) I am looking for great full body experience. What my massuer looks like is secondary to what he can do. I long for a great real massage that includes the full body. I want a trained masseur who knows about the muscles of the body etc. I want a masseur that can also take me sensually to new heights. I like release. I like the masseur to be naked and allow for some mutual touch (but remember that I am the one paying to get the release).

 

I want the surroundings to be clean and warm and inviting. I don't want to hear any interuptions of phones ringing constantly or have the masseur stop to take a call (this is my time). I want the masseur to have put some thought and work into creating a nice atmosphere for the massage both in the immediate surrondings and in his approach towards me. Low lights, candles, soft music or crashing waves, and friendly attitude are really nice. Dirty laundry, dirty dishes, bright light, cold rooms, and cooking food are all turn offs. I don't want to get a massage in your kitchen or dining room. If it is in your bedroom, please be sure that the bed is made is made and the dirty clothes at least hidden and there are no foul orders in the air.

 

I expect the massage to last the amount of time I paid for. If I shelled out $125 for an hour and half, I want an hour and a half. If I "release" before the time is up, don't just throw a towel at me and say "your done now". The massage should be timed so that you can go to the end of the time (try doing a facial or scalp massage after the "release").

 

This may sound pretty demanding, however, I make only $12 an hour at present and my money is valuable to me, as is my time. If I am going for a massage, it is something that I have saved up for and it means a lot to me. Please try to treat me as if it matters to you that I am happy and satisfied.

[Guest Masseur]

As a masseur, I like what one poster says about timing... You have to blend the sensual with the relaxing to the point of making the session feel seamless....What we do is in many ways harder than what an escort does because there is much more physical exertion in kneading muscles.So the art comes in building the client to a peak while

maintaining the trance. while it can be fun for the client to get excited and get up and start moving with you, its also cool to just let them float up up and away....

And as far as regulars are concerned- amen to that! If you do it right it can be exhausting work

so learning a few bodies well and recieving good recompense for that is preferable.

[Guest DJPerez]

Here's another question, related to the shopping process.

 

The Internet provides a great format for shopping for Full-Bodied massage and all the wonderful forms of adult personal services. (I've got my own page in the works.) I think it's not unreasonable to assume that a high percentage of men here use the Web to shop for the sevices they look for.

 

There is also the print media, however. In that arena, advertising policy and standards vary from one publication to another. Some lump all masseurs of any type together. Some are very restrictive, requiring proof of licensure before accepting advertising. (Of course, licensure doesn't necessarily throw up the barrier that the editors intend; I'm sure some of you have had your favorite experiences with licensed masseurs! ;-))

 

Some, like FRONTIERS, create separate sections for "Licensed Masseurs" and "Massage/Body Rubs"; providing some measure of separation between various services. Finally, some avoid the issue completely, choosing not to provide advertising for Massage, Escorting, or other adult personal services. :-(

 

What are your experiences with using the print media to find a masseur? Would you prefer a marketplace in the print media that is easier to negotiate? Do you like it as is?

 

Finally, if you think a change in your paper's ad policy/standard would be in order, what would you like to see?

 

I know I would love to have a massage marketplace in print with clear categories for the different experiences and services offered. I'm sure that all masseurs would benefit. I'm sure the Therapeutic masseurs of the world would welcome the reduction of 'release' inquiries in a marketplace where its clear who's offering what.

 

I don't think the bodyworkers offering TRULY full-bodied experiences would mind having customers find them in print more easily. I think it would also reduce shopping stress for you, the consumer. What are your thoughts?

 

Peace & Pleasure!

 

David, Your Boston Masseur

DJPWorld@yahoo.com

[Bilbo]

While in a perfect world I would agree with you, David, there is Lilly Law to negotiate around. In Texas, at least, and I don't know where all else, it is illegal to advertise that you do massage unless you have a massage license or a hairdressing license. And a finding of prostitution can throw your application for license renewal into a committee with the power to ignore the finding, rescind your license for a period of time or completely revoke it. I am personally under that problem with an arrest that was totally not massage oriented and which was not proven guilty. (Ah, Amerika, as she actually is.) And a sexual release at the end of a massage would count as prostitution on Texas books. So I find it inconceivable in our state that any licensed masseur would quite so openly acknowledge in print that they offer a sexually satisfying massage. Even if they do a massage on the muscles the equal or better of anything available from an HMO, (which doesn't keep the money in the community, necessarily,) and then follow it with a complicated handjob which would be the envy of any escort who limited himself to handjobs. And if you don't like that, write your legislators, not just me.

Sorry, I don't mean to squelch this thread, I am finding it very rewarding. But any discussion needs two sides, at least, to be interesting and realistic. Carry on!

[Guest Masseur]

IT sucks doesnt it Bilbo?

 

If you are trained/liscensed and you want to keep a large part of your job as a continuance of

the medical/therapeutic aspects of massage; you have to completely advertise in that mode and that alone or you get your paper pulled and youre left with all the other masseurs who arent as knowledgable.

I personally enjoy the variety of performing both sensual and 'platonic' massage and wish that pursuing either didnt neccesitate forgoing the other in advertising.

[Guest DaddyWayne]

I think part of a full-body erotic massage for a gay man is that the masseur be totally nude and that there be sexual release at the end. I'm curious though -- do masseurs also like their own release at the end if the client so desires? Or, is this crossing the line, so to speak.

[Bilbo]

LAST EDITED ON Nov-27-00 AT 10:18AM (EST)[p]I, too, would love to hear what others say about this question, but for myself, on those occaisions that I am nude and doing an erotic massage on a client (which is not the only kind of massage it is worthwhile for a gay man to get) I find that at the end of the massage, my mind (sometimes the largest part of a turn on, but also a hardons enemy if you are being too analytical) has been concentrated on two things for the last hour and a half - 1. the client's body seen as a group of muscles that I need to relax, etc. 2. the client's body as a sexual toy into which I put sensations to see what nice reactions I can get. Unless the client has been giving some gentle, sincere attention to my sexual areas during the massage, it is safe to say that I am not only not in a mood to beat myself off, but even if I were, there has been an hour and a half of foreplay put into the client's body and with none put into mine. I have no possibility of catching up before he comes. Since most clients are having such a wonderful experience and are getting so relaxed that they haven't been reciprocal, I must say that generally speaking, no, my own ejaculation is not important to me at that time. IMHO.