The Gushers

[Doug69]

From another thread, where leigh.bess.toad and NYTomcat were overdoing it:

 

I wonder if this kind of banter is actually helpful for Romann's NYC trip. In reading through this, I would probably not look to contact him, though I strongly recommend that any do as Romann is a great guy and a great escort, because he seems like he is already quite busy with the posters. Is that just me?

 

It's not just you and it's not limited to that travel thread. I think this is generally something many members - if I'm to believe the emails I've received, which prompted me to take a look - are finding to be a turn-off. All the saccharine-sweet, cliquey, adolescent in-jokes between leigh.bess.toad, NYTomcat and a couple others, as well as the gushing and fawning over a few escorts, are off-putting. It seems as though the message center has been hijacked by a few posters who may actually be doing more harm than good to the beloved escorts they purport to care so much about. Oh, and did you hear that they went to Palm Springs?

[jimboivyo]

Well said. I too find this all overdone. Fine by me if guys want to hire scorts, but it's gotten to this point of about 4-5 escorts here being handed from one message center poster to another. That's unappealing to me for so many different reasons. Great that you're all gathering up, but it looks mildly ridiculous to those of us who happen to have a foot in reality.

[flguy]

Seems to me its been this way since the Ryan Cade shutdown. It's not a message center anymore for the masses but the few.

[uwsman2]

Anyone who registers on the site is free to post.... There's no hijacking. Just a few very enthusiastic guys who post a lot.

[justaguy]

LOL Given the title, this wasn't the topic I was hoping for.

[down_to_business]

 

It's not just you and it's not limited to that travel thread. I think this is generally something many members - if I'm to believe the emails I've received, which prompted me to take a look - are finding to be a turn-off. All the saccharine-sweet, cliquey, adolescent in-jokes ... as well as the gushing and fawning over a few escorts, are off-putting. ... who may actually be doing more harm than good to the beloved escorts ...

 

I say this with respect to any and all posters who I believe have every right to post whatever or as often as they want. I also want it clear that I am not singling anyone out for this. This is just my individual perspective on the matter.

 

Yes, I find some of the bantering so sickening that I would absolutely NOT hire an escort over it that I might have hired otherwise.

 

Again.. it's just my opinion. Keep participating and keep posting please.

[happyguy2]

I have to agree with JAG - the thread turned out to be totally different than what I was hoping for: GUSHING loads of cum! BTW, the posts do not bother me in the least.

[KMEM]

The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves. William Penn

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[RockHard]

Could someone please pass the Sensodyne.

 

The Palm Springs thread made my teeth hurt. I've been to a lot of fabulous parties in my life but none of them were out-of-body experiences like the ones described in that thread. I wasn't jealous that I didn't attend. I would never attend. However, that thread made me a little sad. Some gay men really do have very little excitement in their lives (and not many good-looking people).

 

On the other hand, I'm glad a little splash of cold water, a few picnic goodies, a leather try-on, all in the company of appreciative escorts can change a gay's life. Some guys are really easy to please, and that's good for the escorts.

 

This board has always had gushers. They're no different than the droolers who elbowed you out of their way in the Gaiety Lounge to lick dance sweat from their man. Some guys go ape-shit over their favorite naked gay. I get it.

 

As long as we're talking about turn-offs, do I really want to share my favorite escort with every guy on this board? I tend to like the fantasy that my favorite escort only has sex with me. In reality, I know it's not the truth but my fantasy self doesn't necessarily want to acknowledge that truth.

 

I believe members are free to write what they want to write. The bottom line in this business is, turn-on or turn-off: it's better to be talked about than not.

[Romann]

Resolution to the problem.

 

I personally am a big fan of the "block user" option if one is not interested in reading comments from others that for whatever reason seem to get under their skin. This will most likely resolve those "off-putting" feelings/sentiments towards escorts/clients in question that have been specifically named in this thread. In fact, there are a couple people in this very thread that are on my block list and I happily don't see their conversation on my screen. Or, just let people say as they wish because at the end of the day, this is a forum where thoughts/ideas are exchanged. Not everyone is going to read things they care about or are interested in replying to and that is perfectly acceptable as well but no need to start a specific thread and then single people out as it has been done here.

 

Personally, I think this thread was done out of spite because some of the posters here have in fact during their time on the forum "gushed" about their favorite escorts as well.

 

People in glass houses should not throw stones... You just might have another house land on you and we all know how that story ended.

[JT Brooklyn]

Naked Over Exposure Never

 

I do tend to agree with The Rock! The Board had even more "Gushers" at one time! Does "Over Exposure" hurt Biz a little?

 

Possibly that could be one reason some "Working Guys" discussed or mentioned alot at one time we hear less about and from these days.

 

As for Romanns NYC Visit... I'm sure it will be a Great Success for him knowing one of the individuals he will be hanging out with!

[Romann]

Right!

 

LOL Given the title, this wasn't the topic I was hoping for.

 

Is this an example of false advertising?

[Decatur Guy]

What constitutes gushing? One man's legitimate enthusiasm may be another man's gush.

[seeker630]

LOL Given the title, this wasn't the topic I was hoping for.

 

lol. Your's isn't the only mind in the gutter - I was right there with you!

[Romann]

Simple answer...

 

Possibly that could be one reason some "Working Guys" discussed or mentioned alot at one time we hear less about and from these days.

 

Simple answer... dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. I have always tried to be mindful of what I say but now I have to be mindful of what others say as well? From this thread and a handful of conversations in my NYC ad, escorts now need to be concerned about having too much positive comments? Where is the balance?

 

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't... Dammed if others do too for you... Sheeeesh...

 

I also find it interesting that if someone isn't reviewed or discussed enough, people complain. Now, if you,re reviewed and discussed too much, people complain. Posters come onto the forum to talk about the time with their chosen escort for a specific event, offering comments and something more than just a "first time review" (which also is complained about) then the mud slinging starts.

 

Wow... sounds like a place I want to log onto often and contribute. Fact of the matter is, people hire you or they don't and if escorts are discounted because of what very kind clients say about them, then so be it.

 

They weren't going to hire in the first place...

[seeker630]

it's easy enough to simply not READ the threads on Palm Springs, Chicago, etc., and to skip over the posts that are one-to-one dialogs.

 

It's obvious that people come here for different things. Some posters have established 'real' (as opposed to 'virtual') friendships here; others are more detached.

 

For me, the only possible downside of 'gushing' is that an escorts reputation can be inflated to the point that there's no way he'll live up to expectations (especially considering that our tastes and priorities vary.) Hopefully we're experienced enlough to keep this in mind and stay grounded.

[seeker630]

Simple answer... dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. I have always tried to be mindful of what I say but now I have to be mindful of what others say as well? From this thread and a handful of conversations in my NYC ad, escorts now need to be concerned about having too much positive comments? Where is the balance?

 

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't... Dammed if others do too for you... Sheeeesh...

 

I also find it interesting that if someone isn't reviewed or discussed enough, people complain. Now, if you,re reviewed and discussed too much, people complain. Posters come onto the forum to talk about the time with their chosen escort for a specific event, offering comments and something more than just a "first time review" (which also is complained about) then the mud slinging starts.

 

Wow... sounds like a place I want to log onto often and contribute. Fact of the matter is, people hire you or they don't and if escorts are discounted because of what very kind clients say about them, then so be it.

 

They weren't going to hire in the first place...

 

That about sums it up - damned if you (or your friends) do & damned if you (OR your friends) don't! This MC has alwas been a double-edged sword for escorts.

 

The only thing you can do is continue to be the exceptional escort that you are; the positive consequences will outweigh any negative fall-out from perceivedover-promotion.

[OneFinger]

it's easy enough to simply not READ the threads on Palm Springs, Chicago, etc., and to skip over the posts that are one-to-one dialogs...

 

Totally agree on that one. The first few posts on Palm Springs were good but I quickly tired of reading the threads and just ignored them.

 

...For me, the only possible downside of 'gushing' is that an escorts reputation can be inflated to the point that there's no way he'll live up to expectations (especially considering that our tastes and priorities vary.) Hopefully we're experienced enlough to keep this in mind and stay grounded.

 

Another excellent point. A while back I hired a well-reviewed escort (over 60 positive reviews) who is routinely discussed on this site. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. In person he was not nearly as articulate as his posting persona and his physical characteristics were also inconsistent with his "gushers" descriptions. And, part of the problem was mine because I had unreal expectations.

[best hotel]

i totally get the clients who are prone to "gushing"....i am also guilty of that behavior.......some of the escort favorites here are just sooooo irresistable......i am insecure enough to read between the lines that the escort may have favorites among the gushing crowd of clients that are around him.... and therefore, may have no room around him for other clients....or when an escort is visiting a city, he may be too tired from his sessions with his usual guys that, by the time he gets around to me, he will be spent.....i know that there are escorts that i see regularly who, due to my history of consistently hiring, commit prime time to me before scheduling new clients,... so i assume that is happening with others......when tyger last visited new york, and i learned from the gushing here that he saw so many of my "brothers" from this forum, but apparently had no time for me, i was pathetic in my self-inflicted heartbreak....i thought he was sincere when he told me during multiple past sessions that he enjoyed my company...yet, i felt he must have so many others that he enjoyed even more, that i didn't warrant an appointment, even for an hour....i know that tyger isn't very good at returning calls and enmails, but i took it personally.....i have often thought i would enjoy seeing Roman and find him to be beautiful in his pics and sweet and clever in his posts, but i assume that tom and the others have most of his time locked up.

[+ purplekow]

, just let people say as they wish because at the end of the day, this is a forum where thoughts/ideas are exchanged. Not everyone is going to read things they care about or are interested in replying to and that is perfectly acceptable as well but no need to start a specific thread and then single people out as it has been done here.

 

Personally, I think this thread was done out of spite because some of the posters here have in fact during their time on the forum "gushed" about their favorite escorts as well.

 

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Since my question in another thread was the take off for this thread, I thought I would add an opinion. The initial post was placed as a legitimate question. Had the posters considered that their bantering back and forth might negatively impact an escort. This thread answers this question generally and then specifically back to the original escort.

 

Generally, Some readers are negatively impacted by banter and they do factor that into their hiring decisions.

 

Specifically, Romann, has no stated problem with the banter, in facts supports it and it apparently has not impacted his career in a way that has been negative for him.

 

For me, I will occasionally banter here on line but if I find the banter becoming a conversation, I will use the feature of this site designed for conversations.

[+ Gar1eth]

In my aged and erratic memory, it seems to me when I first found the predecessor site (Hooboy's by nickname) to this site, announcements in the Traveling Escort Section were supposed to be restricted to 'announcements of traveling'. Over the years, it seems that the rules, or maybe it was just a tradition, have loosened up to allow comments about the travel. So should the Travel Thread go back to being composed of straightforward Travel Alerts? After all there are certainly enough other threads available to discuss how wonderful an escort is.

 

Gman

 

PS I too was just a little bit disappointed in this thread's actual subject matter after the misleading Thread Title.

[doitb4ugo]

I am trying very hard to find out what is that these enthusiastic posters have done to us readers that requires so many responses. The complainers would certainly not be happy if the guys having fun just took it to another forum....

 

The best solution would be to vote who we would like to kick off the forum completely...posting being such a serious crime here. The people complaining would hardly give us enough stuff to read each day of these other guys did not come here to frolic,,,,

 

As in all things on this forum:

LIVE AND LET LIVE.

but write about it, please.

[nate_sf]

It's easy for people to get excited and perhaps a bit carried away when they're having fun and are happy. That can apply to this forum, it can apply to coworkers going crazy with shop-talk, it can apply to old classmates indulging in endless reminiscing. If someone feels the gushing has gone over the top, you can either (a) ignore the post as has been suggested by others here, or (b) politely call it to attention and provide a bit of a reality check. I've seen threads where, irrespective of who was posting, the banter got a bit excessive or off topic and someone politely jumped in and said something like, "hey guys, can we get back to the original post?" I think that's a much more fair and diplomatic solution to reigning in a thread than singling out people by name and making an example. We're all just trying to share info and have some fun here after all, but if you feel there is a need for a reality check you have the right to do so.

 

As for those who commented that they expected to see something else in this thread and are disappointed, I suggest you check out Michael Vincenzo's latest post in the Deli section about his new video clip. I've never met Michael so there's no motive on my part one way or the other, but if you're looking for an example of that other type of "gusher" you should look there. Now THAT's a gusher! ;-)

[Greathands]

I don't find myself agreeing with Doug69 all that often, but in this case I find myself doing so.

 

There are some very highly regarded escorts on here ... such as Brandan Steele, Dane Scott or Shaun Ross ... that I would be anxious to meet (and perhaps already have) due to their reputations on this message board.

 

And there also some other highly regarded escorts on here ... which I won't name ... that though I find them very attractive and perhaps even fantasize about, I won't hire them largely in part due to the way they are talked about on here ... even though the "chit chat" about them is all positive, and perhaps even phenomenal.

 

For me ... and this may just be one of my quirks ... I try to find escorts that I would be compatible with. And sometimes when some "famous" posters here go on and on about some great escorts, I begin to feel that they are a bit out of my league.

 

So, for me ... hearing posters highly recommend someone and talk positively about them has made me desire to meet them, while hearing other posters "gush" about other great escorts has had the opposite effect.

[doitb4ugo]

I don't find myself agreeing with Doug69 all that often, but in this case I find myself doing so.

 

There are some very highly regarded escorts on here ... such as Brandan Steele, Dane Scott or Shaun Ross ... that I would be anxious to meet (and perhaps already have) due to their reputations on this message board.

 

And there also some other highly regarded escorts on here ... which I won't name ... that though I find them very attractive and perhaps even fantasize about, I won't hire them largely in part due to the way they are talked about on here ... even though the "chit chat" about them is all positive, and perhaps even phenomenal.

 

For me ... and this may just be one of my quirks ... I try to find escorts that I would be compatible with. And sometimes when some "famous" posters here go on and on about some great escorts, I begin to feel that they are a bit out of my league.

 

So, for me ... hearing posters highly recommend someone and talk positively about them has made me desire to meet them, while hearing other posters "gush" about other great escorts has had the opposite effect.

 

I think there is a great difference in posting that these "gushers" have turned you off from hiring certain escorts and Doug69 statement that the posting that these "gushers" postings are turning you off on the forum....While the outcomes may end up the same...I believe you have a legitimate point about the hiring which I think is where PK was when this started. I do not believe you are calling out the "gushers" for their posting...

 

Maybe I'm wrong....