Having a pretty shitty day.

[Boner]

If you have been reading Xanders posts or seen is website or blog, you would understand that he is no ordinary young man...extremely bright in fact. He needs advice, not a bunch of crying queens to wipe his tears away.

 

There you go again with your typical and unfounded, hysterical hyperbole about people and their motives.

 

Nobody here that I can see, and certainly, not I, are here advocating crying queens to run to the rescue here in numbers (perhaps even in flocks, as you might imagine or embelish), to wipe Xander's tears away. You appear to have much more information, and personal investment into Xander's personal life, than seems healthy for you or anyone else not caring about him to have. Why do you have so much of that information and why is it so troubling for you?

[Boner]

And, sure, I'd pack stuff up the day before to be ready to go in the morning. The only things I'd avoid leaving in there overnight are electronics.

 

Well, let's be honest here Fluffy and include those pesty and necessary female hygiene, thing-of-a-gigs that sometimes even gay men wish they had taken with them for entirely different reasons.

 

If anyone is interested about that, PM me.

 

(No elves, please)

[+ FreshFluff]

Well, let's be honest here Fluffy and include those pesty and necessary female hygiene, thing-of-a-gigs that sometimes even gay men wish they had taken with them for entirely different reasons.

 

Well, those don't need to be loaded into a car. Not sure why any guy would want to use a tampon for a dildo, but it's a big world.

[Boner]

Well, those don't need to be loaded into a car. Not sure why any guy would want to use a tampon for a dildo, but it's a big world.

 

Well, tampons were not on my radar about that. :o

[tyro]

Wow. I am now totally confused.

T

[Boner]

Wow. I am now totally confused.

T

 

Being female, and not a gay guy, as well - I get your confusion. We gay men turn some things that many women look at as just usual and helpful things, into many other, well, things....

[+ Travis69]

A douche?

[Boner]

A douche?

 

If you just said that, and meant that, then you are NOT gay! And with a name like Travis, I'd be disappointed, if you were not.

[+ Travis69]

If you just said that, and meant that, then you are NOT gay!

 

A thousand men will tell you I am VERY gay.

[+ Travis69]

A vibrator?

[Lookin]

Wow. I am now totally confused.

T

Congratulations! You're very quick out of the gate!

 

For my first six months here, the best I could manage was bewildered.

It took another six months to hit befuddled, a year more to reach confounded, and not till my Leather Anniversary did I finally surrender into totally confused.

 

It's comfortable now and I have no plans to go back. Look forward to seeing you around.

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[Boner]

A thousand men will tell you I am VERY gay.

 

As well as you should probably be known as! as long as it isn't from this type of cheap gay ignorant history

 

I'm more concerned about people like BVB - who school young people in the art of proper behavior, publicly, when then, they themselves, engage in just the opposite behavior publicly for their own self, and sexual best interests.

 

If BVB cared about Xander, and his personal struggles in his life - he would have gone private with Xander, or at least as public, and in the same manner which he did with Scott Adler. During HIS issues.

[Lookin]

Xander, sorry for the many highjacks. I know this day sucks and probably for another few days until you start getting things back in order. But you will, and at the end of the rainbow will be a new set of wheels.

 

Unless they find your Jeep. Did the police give you a prediction on whether or not it would be found? And in what condition?

 

Hope you manage to get to the rainforest, if not this week then soon, and perhaps with a brand new ride!

 

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/04/2012-jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8-opt.jpg

[Boner]

Cynical, old, and desperate men - whomever, they might be (you know who you are) - who pay much, much younger, young men, than themselves, their money, for their personal sexual satisfaction, should never be viewed as a voice of understanding or guidance to anyone, when they then speak about you in public forums, such as these, in a self-serving and superior-type manner. Just because they have read your blog.

 

These are the men, who make other decent men - look bad. And undesirable. And often times, turn otherwise good encounters into bad encounters.

 

Reviewing escorts you have spent time with on-line is one thing. Taking them to school, because of who and where they might be, in their personal life process, is quite another.

 

Cynical, old, and desperate men seem to think that's OK to do here, since someone else who was not paying here was reaching out for help and comfort.

 

What an ugly view from my seat, this thread has become. Just because of others who expect, the opposite experience from their investments in those, who provide them those experiences - to them.

[Boner]

If you have been reading Xanders posts or seen is website or blog, you would understand that he is no ordinary young man...extremely bright in fact. He needs advice, not a bunch of crying queens to wipe his tears away.

 

I'm compelled to remind you, that people like you, had little to no difference in Erik Rhodes life and death. Although you always seem to be involved and to pass judgement on people. The one thing, which he never suffered from, which I will remind you of, was that he was never suffocated from the likes of people like you publicly. He didn't care about you as much as you were fascinated and drawn to him.

 

You might have been enthralled in watching another gay man living his life out honestly in the front of others - but in the end, it was his life you were judging and commenting upon. Which eased the reality, of your own personal commentary and responsibility.

 

Now that he is dead - It's only you. Or people you need to now, become like him - For you. Don't start with Xander. Start with YOU.

[bigvalboy]

I'm compelled to remind you, that people like you, had little to no difference in Erik Rhodes life and death. Although you always seem to be involved and to pass judgment on people. The one thing, which he never suffered from, which I will remind you of, was that he was never suffocated from the likes of people like you publicly. He didn't care about you as much as you were fascinated and drawn to him.

 

You might have been enthralled in watching another gay man living his life out honestly in the front of others - but in the end, it was his life you were judging and commenting upon. Which eased the reality, of your own personal commentary and responsibility.

 

Now that he is dead - It's only you. Or people you need to now, become like him - For you. Don't start with Xander. Start with YOU.

 

Where the Hell do you come up with this nonsense. That's a bit of a stretch going from a stolen Jeep to the death of a human being....of course given your reputation in your short tenure here, I am not surprised....perhaps you could muster up some dignity and let the young man rest in peace. Noah Driver is back, I see that you wasted no time in passing your own petty judgment on him...there is plenty for you to rant about there....AND once again and finally I say to you..Moving on Mr. Boner. I think we have more than exhausted this topic. Go turn on Fox news and have Daddy make you a nice pot of tea.

[BSR]

An old roommate of mine, whenever I dropped or spilled something, would invariably scream at me, "Be careful!!" Gee, thanks for the Wisdom of the Ancients, because being careful while climbing the steep narrow staircase to our apartment never would have occurred to me otherwise. No matter how I tried to explain to her how insulting it was, she never stopped. Quite the contrary, she insisted that she was helping me. Help me how? By assuming I'm so abjectly stupid that I lack even a modicum of common sense?? With help like that, who needs saboteurs?

 

That's kind of how I felt after reading bigvalboy's admonishments. I'm sure the nanosecond Xander saw his Jeep along with all that expensive camping equipment missing, he realized he had made a terrible mistake. In the hours that followed, all the "shoulda coulda woulda" regrets must have coursed through his mind -- "why did I pack the Jeep ahead of time?", "why didn't I buy a better alarm system?", "why didn't I X ... Y ... Z?". However well-intentioned bvb might have been with his advice, he said nothing that Xander hadn't figured out on his own or could have figured out with a quick google search about vehicle security.

 

We all make mistakes, and at all ages, we do things then wonder why the hell we did them. Xander seems to have a lot more figured out than I did at his age. Also, I have to wonder if some of Xander's naivete about car theft or theft in general isn't the result of what kind of person he is. We see in others what is true of ourselves. Xander might have been a bit naive about the lowlifes in his neighborhood because he tends to see others as honesty and trustworthy, even if that's far too often not the case.

 

Xander, I'm sorry to hear about your totally sh*tty day. Hopefully, despite no car and no camping equipment, you can finagle a way to still get to Transformus. Even though it's not my scene at all, I can see how it's a lot of fun. Are there lots of hot nekkid guys wandering about, communing with nature in their natural state? Hmmm, if so, maybe it could be my scene

[bigvalboy]

I assumed that cars today are pretty difficult to hot-wire. I know a few people who've had stuff stolen FROM their cars, but no one who has actually had a car stolen. That includes the Lexus and Honda SUVs that would be attractive to steal. Unless I had a super-expensive car (Tesla, say), I assumed that the built-in alarm is fine.

 

And, sure, I'd pack stuff up the day before to be ready to go in the morning. The only things I'd avoid leaving in there overnight are electronics.

 

A huge misconception on your part FF...You need to know that even with the latest technology from manufactures, with rolling and alternating codes to the factory alarms, most thieves can still be off with a new Mercedes or Lexus or Honda in a matter of minutes. Most are stolen, driven onto rolling semi trucks and stripped as the truck rolls down the interstate or many are shipped over seas. The West Coast still has the highest theft rate, but you must be vigilant where ever you are. I have a friend who lives in a high rise condo in Bev Hills with a secured parking structure below. Thieves rolled in 2 car haulers one night, and stole 15 high end luxury cars from the structure....no one heard a sound...this sort of thing happens all the time.

[seeker630]

A huge misconception on your part FF...You need to know that even with the latest technology from manufactures, with rolling and alternating codes to the factory alarms, most thieves can still be off with a new Mercedes or Lexus or Honda in a matter of minutes. Most are stolen, driven onto rolling semi trucks and stripped as the truck rolls down the interstate or many are shipped over seas. The West Coast still has the highest theft rate, but you must be vigilant where ever you are. I have a friend who lives in a high rise condo in Bev Hills with a secured parking structure below. Thieves rolled in 2 car haulers one night, and stole 15 high end luxury cars from the structure....no one heard a sound...this sort of thing happens all the time.

 

Where you live may affect your awareness of car thefts. Car theft rates have been declining for the last several years EXCEPT out west. http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/21/autos/auto_theft_rate_nicb/index.htm

 

In my entire life, I've only known one person whose car was stolen, and that was about 3 years ago.

[bigvalboy]

That's kind of how I felt after reading bigvalboy's admonishments.

 

 

If that is how you interpreted my comments BSR...you were completely incorrect.

 

 

 

I'm sure the nanosecond Xander saw his Jeep along with all that expensive camping equipment missing, he realized he had made a terrible mistake. In the hours that followed, all the "shoulda coulda woulda" regrets must have coursed through his mind -- "why did I pack the Jeep ahead of time?", "why didn't I buy a better alarm system?", "why didn't I X ... Y ... Z?". However well-intentioned bvb might have been with his advice, he said nothing that Xander hadn't figured out on his own or could have figured out with a quick google search about vehicle security.

 

You are assuming here that Xander had figured out all the mistakes that he made and you are assuming that he knows the best way going forward how best to protect his automobile. Perhaps he does, perhaps he did not. I was not lecturing, but passing on valuable information that I have learned over the years. I have owned in excess of 30 cars in my life and only one was ever stolen. When I got my car stolen the first time, what I didn't need to here is "Oh I am so sorry this happened to you" .....it was done, over, the car was gone. all my school books were gone along with expensive camera equipment. What I wanted to hear is what can I do in the future. I had an alarm and a steering wheel lock that did nothing to protect me. I was baffled, so for the better part of 30 minutes the police schooled me in the best way going forward to protect my car. That was information I needed. Not a bunch of people standing around feeling sorry for me for a few minutes and then everyone leaving and going about their day, and 15 minutes later, my troubles all forgotten as they sipped on their morning coffee. I needed information. I was trying to help Xander. I actually have a great deal of respect for the young man. He is most talented, and that is why I took the time to post. Not for your entertainment, but simply to try and help him. How you don't see that is beyond me. If he doesn't want my advice, fine, I can move on.

 

 

We all make mistakes, and at all ages, we do things then wonder why the hell we did them. Xander seems to have a lot more figured out than I did at his age. Also, I have to wonder if some of Xander's naivete about car theft or theft in general isn't the result of what kind of person he is. We see in others what is true of ourselves. Xander might have been a bit naive about the lowlifes in his neighborhood because he tends to see others as honesty and trustworthy, even if that's far too often not the case.

 

 

 

Excellent point and this speaks to the exact reason that I tried to put out as much information to him as possible. I was naive at that age also and would never believe that people would do such a thing. Helping him understand what a massive problem car theft is was my only goal. Not more than a month ago, I had a friend got his car stolen at a gas station as he went inside to pay. He is my age. My first question to him was, "Why the hell wasn't the car locked" his response, "I was in a gas station, I just went in for a second to pay"....You see, information information information, is the greatest deterrent. I take the keys and lock my car, if I am away from it for even one second. If you want me to send Xander a Hallmark card, well that isn't what he needs.

[+ purplekow]

In my entire life, I've only known one person whose car was stolen, and that was about 3 years ago.

 

I had a car stolen from the employee parking lot under the watch of a security team and cameras.

I had a car stolen from in front of my wife's place of employment in the time it took me to urinate. The Men's room a mere 5 steps past the entrance and the car parked 10 feet from there.

I had my car stolen from the parking lot of the gym. i was parked between a late year Mercedes and a very nice convertible BMW, I had a Subaru (don't ask why).

These were not bad neighborhoods. These were not events happening in the dead of night. These were crimes The only thing in common with these three events, was the status of the car, locked. I frequently leave my car unlocked. In all those times, i have never had an issue.

Many cars are stolen for parts. Local chop shops put in an order, and if you have the right car, well there you go.

It is a very odd feeling to return to the spot where you left your car and not have it be there. You start to think perhaps you are on the wrong block on in the wrong aisle. You walk around in disbelief and then you come to realize the car is really gone but you keep on looking because you do not want to admit to yourself that this has happened (in my case, that his has happened again and again)

[+ Lucky]

I have never had a car stolen. I sympathize with those who have as I know it creates all kinds of hassles and a sense of personal violation.

[seeker630]

I had a car stolen from the employee parking lot under the watch of a security team and cameras.

I had a car stolen from in front of my wife's place of employment in the time it took me to urinate. The Men's room a mere 5 steps past the entrance and the car parked 10 feet from there.

I had my car stolen from the parking lot of the gym. i was parked between a late year Mercedes and a very nice convertible BMW, I had a Subaru (don't ask why).

These were not bad neighborhoods. These were not events happening in the dead of night. These were crimes The only thing in common with these three events, was the status of the car, locked. I frequently leave my car unlocked. In all those times, i have never had an issue.

Many cars are stolen for parts. Local chop shops put in an order, and if you have the right car, well there you go.

It is a very odd feeling to return to the spot where you left your car and not have it be there. You start to think perhaps you are on the wrong block on in the wrong aisle. You walk around in disbelief and then you come to realize the car is really gone but you keep on looking because you do not want to admit to yourself that this has happened (in my case, that his has happened again and again)

 

I would guess that your experiences make you more aware of the possibiities of theft than those of us with no real experience of the same - which was part of my point..

 

By the way, your reaction reminds me of the time my apartment was burgled. I came home late one night to find my TV, stereo & electric skillet(!) were missing. It took me a few seconds to figure out why the living room looked different, but then my first thought was, "Why has my roommate moved the TV?"

[bigvalboy]

Where you live may affect your awareness of car thefts. Car theft rates have been declining for the last several years EXCEPT out west. http://money.cnn.com/2011/06/21/autos/auto_theft_rate_nicb/index.htm

 

In my entire life, I've only known one person whose car was stolen, and that was about 3 years ago.

 

Seeker, I do believe that I mentioned the West Coast as being a serious problem. I am far more informed perhaps because most everyone on the West coast owns an automobile. It is a huge problem here. I have many friends on the East Coast that do not even own cars, because of the superior rapid transit system there. I was trying to help...you of all people should have seen that. If you did not, then I must say that I am a little disappointed in your take on things.

[Boner]

you of all people should have seen that. If you did not, then I must say that I am a little disappointed in your take on things.

 

I'm certain that, your disappointment is the least of the OP's disappointment.

 

But since this has become about you, by you. It's completely, understandable.

 

So sorry, about YOUR, horrible day.