Barebacking, Porn & Role Models

[Guest ncm2169]

< To celebrate Cobra's Second Anniversary, we are doing something we have never done before. When is the last time you've seen an All American, bareback, collegeboy Orgy Video? Then again, can you name any? >

 

Thus reads the "come on" (cum on?) for Bareback Twink Orgy, a release by Cobra Video. For those who don't follow gay porn in general, or gay amateur porn in particular, Cobra is one of the currently very hott studios -- it's late teen and early 20-something heaven.

 

Cobra and about a dozen other similar studios have two things in common -- their actors are 18-23 and they include barebacking scenes. These studios are also popular with sexually active late teen and early 20-somethings who watch porn, so I've been told by several such kids. Anyone care to venture a guess as to the message those kids get? x(

 

And, speaking of messages, what kind of message is Aaron Lawrence sending when this long time role model for escorts not only films barebacking scenes but also participates in them himself on camera as both a top and a bottom?

 

In the other thread about Aaron's models, I posted four excerpts from Aaron's descriptions of barebacking in his videos, if you care to read them.

 

Let me be very clear here. I am not posting this to trash Aaron, although I could easily do that. Rather, I am posting an appeal to Aaron, because I am very alarmed at the high rate of barebacking among teens and 20-somethings in the population generally.

 

Those of us in this community who share my concerns have zero influence over Cobra Video and its competitors. I'd like to think, however, that if enough of us scream loud enough, Aaron just might hear us.

 

I emailed Aaron last night to voice my concerns. Anyone else care to join me?

 

His email addy is: aaron@aaronlawrence.com

 

To Aaron: PLEASE, PLEASE STOP IT! You literally wrote the book on escorting. You've been a major role model. You've made a successful transition into the business world. Be a constructive role model once again and say, "I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I will never again include barebacking scenes in my videos."

 

Yeah, it may cost you some business, but what's more important -- your pocketbook or the lives of thousands of young kids?

[+ Lucky]

This is one of the bolder threads to go up on the boards in a long time. I did not see your posts about Aaron's barebacking descriptions, but was aware that he had promoted this.

I would heartily support your endeavor to encourage him to change his mind, both about the barebacking and the appeal to the lollipop crowd with his very young looking "studs."

As for Aaron, money does not always have its rewards.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This post may get controversial... Surprised, eh?

 

Yes, Aaron Lawrence may have 'written the book' regarding escorting. He's definately a marketing-man with the skills and knowhow to make a buck in this industry. Aaron has a slick website which sells anything & everything, including (at one time) the shirt off his back.

 

Does this impress me? Not really. I'll admit, i've bought his books. I've looked at his website, his images and his 'style' of advertising. I found his 'how-to' escorting book to be nothing more than a low-rent version of Uta Hagen's 'Respect for Acting.' I especially found the portion of his book regarding how to garner a better tip at the end of an hourly to be quite vapid. Plain & simple, he writes his books for hustlers... not escorts.

 

Now Aaron decides to produce bareback porn, which he readily participates in. If my respect for him wasn't flushed after reading his books, this would definately be the deciding factor. Assuming Aaron still escorts, anyone who actually HIRES this guy after knowing what he does on film must be insane.

 

I'm not going to advocate what two individuals do in the privacy of their own home... If they wish to bareback, it's their own personal, private choice. Someone like Lawrence is knowingly putting out porno with bareback action simply for profit, seriously risking his own health for the almighty dollar. It's the combo of it being bareback with his blatant advertising tactics that makes it seem so smarmy to me. It's another one of Aaron's showmanship routines, but this time i don't think he's going to hit paydirt... Well, not in the longrun at least.

 

 

In advertising, people are always pushing the envelope further. The public loves extremes: Reality-TV, SuperSizing at McDonalds, SUV's. Usually, 90% of the time it translates into profit for a company. What i want to know is, how far will someone go just to turn a buck? When does it become tacky, over-the-top and just plain overdone?

 

If Aaron Lawrence wants to continue in this business with any shred of respect he's worked hard to earn, he needs to seriously consider how much further he's willing to push the envelope.

 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

 

 

Benjamin Nicholas

[Guest Rob007]

BenjaminNicholas.com stock just went up a couple of points in my book. Thanks for the input. Wish you were on the east coast. I take ya to dinner... and then some...

 

Rob:)

[+ deej]

Good for you!

 

The only way to let video companies know what you think about their product (aside from not buying it) is to TELL THEM. Not just Aaron Lawrence, but you gotta start somewhere.

 

If anyone thinks bareback porn doesn't influence how young gay men view sex in their own bedrooms, just count up the number of people injured by duplicating stunts they've seen on MTV's Jackass. The tube DOES influence people, like it or not.

 

I rather like this take on it:

 

http://www.cockring.org/columns/showperez.cfm

 

This is akin to the children's game "Tell Two People". If each of us "tells two people" and get them to speak up, and each of *them* does the same, and so on, a sizeable collective voice will be heard.

 

So go ahead. Tell two people.

[Guest gentle guy]

Good Advice

 

Bravo!

[Guest CTBRTWAYS]

RE: Good Advice

 

I have known Aaron for several years. He is one of the most money-

oriented persons I have ever met in my life. I do not think the word

morality is in his vocabulary. This is the way he is disregardless

of his occupation as a "sex-worker." His personal goal is to make one million dollars. He was always pretty careful about unsafe sex while

escorting. Obviously, something has happened to change that.

[Guest pyell]

RE: Good Advice

 

I agree that barebacking should not be encouraged.

 

But before you get too high and mighty about Aaron Lawrence, look at what he ACTUALLY does and says, not what you THINK he does and says.

 

According to his production diaries, the only barebacking scenes in his videos are between two guys who are, in real life, lovers, and who have sex with each other bareback in the privacy of their own home. He has never participated in such scenes himself, and he has also stopped some of his Russian boys from doing bareback. Yes, he sometimes appears in his videos, but not bareback (at least as far as his diaries say - I've never bothered buying the videos myself). Indeed, his production diaries talk about some of the practical problems of shipping in enough condoms for his overseas videos and disposing of the wrappers afterwards.

[Guest EWC]

RE: Good Advice

 

>He was always pretty careful about

>unsafe sex while

>escorting. Obviously, something has happened to change that.

 

Isn't the thing that usually happens is to be diagnosed HIV+?????

[TotallyOz]

Holy Shit.

 

The original post for this started out and went to hell from there. How on earth can someone go from the original post to insinuating that Aaron is HIV (EWC - First time poster). That to me is disgusting.

 

To set a few things straight. First, I believe that any two consenting adults should be able to do what ever the fuck they want to do. If they choose to bareback in private or on tape, that is their decision. If you choose not to purchase the video, that is your right too. What I really hate is someone jumping the gun and throwing out accusations about someone that he or she may not have met or don't even know based on hearsay. Or, making morality judgments based on what they do with another adult. Back to my old adage, I have many friends that have said the this site should be shut down because it promotes boys selling their bodies or escorting in general and they believe this is immoral.

 

So, for those of you that write to Aaron, why don't you write to Hooboy as well and tell him how horrible it is to have a place for open discussion of issues regarding escorts? I will tell you why. You have decided that it is ok to hire escorts or you may just get a kick out of this site. But, for the most part, I believe that the majority of those reading this believe it is ok to hire boys/men any give them money in exchange for services. I find it hypocritical to say this is ok but Aaron shouldn't be making money off of barebacking videos.

 

I understand the stigma associated with barebacking. But, do you honestly believe in the gay community at large there there is not the same stigma attached to hiring escorts? I am not trying to say the two are the same. I don't believe they are. But, I always find it interesting to have someone condemn someone else in this setting. I find this site informative and full of information. I also find Aaron's site informative and love going to it.

 

If Aaron has jumped on the barebacking bandwagon, then so be it. That is his right. He is not escorting anymore. He is a web master and a retailer of videos. I am sure he had good reasons for what ever business decision he made.

 

Aaron is a nice guy. He was a great escort and will be remembered for all he has done for the escorting industry. I wish him well in his site and all his work on future projects. Having said this, I haven't bought a video from him. I just think he should make the kind of videos he wants to make that have the widest market appeal.

[+ Lucky]

"I have many friends that have said the this site should be shut down because it promotes boys selling their bodies or escorting in general and they believe this is immoral."

 

And they are your friends?

[TotallyOz]

Well, yes, they are my friends. I have friends who do not believe escorting is moral. I also have friends that believe homosexuality is immoral. But, I take the perspective of the Log Cabin Republicans on this one. I get in and work them from the other site. Nearly all of my friends who I have known for 20 years or longer who know I am gay are now ok with it. Most of my really good friends know I hire escorts and are ok with it too. But, does that mean they think it is moral? Not necessarily, they just tolerate it perhaps. Lastly, I have friends who are straight, Republican, conservative Christian Coalition members. We disagree on everything but have maintained a friendship for years. There are always things that we can agree on. For example, we all disagree on the non smoking ban in bars in NYC. And, even my straight friend (male) who watched me on this site at times think Rick's ass shot is hot. So, I will bring them all around eventually.

[BewareofNick]

RE: Good Advice

 

>But before you get too high and mighty about Aaron Lawrence,

>look at what he ACTUALLY does and says, not what you THINK he

>does and says.

 

http://www.aaronlawrence.com/scripts/ALCstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=AV28

 

Aaron's Amateur Funfest 2

Brief description

Aaron's Amateur Funfest 2 is my second tape of miscellaneous scenes. Not a tape of cuttting-floor footage, rather the Amateur Funfest series is a collection of scenes that didn't make it into any other project for varying reasons. The scene with Kob in Thailand, for example, was originally intended for Aaron's Adventures in Thailand 4. I was unable to complete that video in Thailand though, and so the two scenes I managed to film for it must be used elsewhere. Similarly, the scene between Alex and Nigel was filmed on our way to Ukraine this summer. Like Aaron's Amateur Funfest, there is no overriding theme between all of the scenes. Fortunately none is necessary as the video stands well on its own.

 

Full Description and Pictures

Small pictures

Full-size pictures (Requires a site membership)

Note: The full-size pictures require a long download time for some videos

 

Online viewing

Watch this entire movie in the online theater

Watch video clips from this video (site membership required)

 

About this video

97 minutes

Live sound. No tacky music

Aaron's first bareback scene ever on video

Special thanks to Ken & Krit (my guide in Thailand)

 

I would respectfully suggest that you do a little more thorough research before you lecture someone.

[Guest ncm2169]

RE: Good Advice

 

OK, Pyell, apparently you missed it the first time, so here it is in its entirety. Note that these are Aaron's OWN WORDS:

 

Aaron’s Adventures In Russia #6

 

From Producer’s Note: “It has a lot of action and has something for everyone--twinks, barebacking, 1-on-1s, group sex, oral, anal, and even a reverse gangbang in which Aaron takes on four horny and very willing bottoms.”

 

From Aaron’s description of the bare-backing scene between Sasha #7 and Yaroslav: “I offered them condoms but they declined. They don't use them normally between each other so they didn't see any sense in using them on film. And boy are you going to be glad this is the case. From my eyes this is the hottest bareback scene I have ever filmed”

 

 

Aaron’s Amateur Funfest #2

 

From Aaron’s description of a scene between Aaron and Mat: “I usually play it safe on all my videos, but once in a while I have the urge to go raw. I have only given into that urge once, with this blond stud by the name of Mat. In the home and under the disapproving stare of safe-sex aficionado Eric Magyar, Mat and I dropped our clothes and with nary a condom in sight we proceeded to get it on. I thought it would be hot to blow a load up his hole and let it drain back out, so I did! You can see a picture of it below. If you think the picture looks good, you'll love to see it sliding out on video... Oh, and yes, he fucked me bareback too. Mostly I played top, but he did slip it up my ass as well. Felt great!”

 

 

Aaron’s Adventures in Russia #3

 

From Aaron’s description of a scene between Andrey and Alexei #3: “They go suck each other for a while, and finally Andrey fucks Alexi slowly and passionately. Although I offered to provide condoms, the two declined as they do not use them in their personal sex life. As such, it is the second bareback scene ever in a Aaron movie. (Nathen and Cameron in Aaron's American Tour 2 being the first).”

 

 

Aaron’s American Tour: Part 2

 

From Aaron’s description of a scene between Nathan and Cameron: “They are lovers in real life, and their feelings for each other show as they tenderly and passionately kiss and suck each other. As a matter of fact, when Nathan finally begins to fuck Cameron, they elect not to use condoms between them. This makes their scene the first bareback scene in any of my Aaron videos.”

 

Like it or not, them's the facts. x(

[Rick Munroe]

>And, even my straight

>friend (male) who watched me on this site at times think

>Rick's ass shot is hot.

 

Can you give him my phone number? :9

[Guest ncm2169]

< Back to my old adage, I have many friends that have said the this site should be shut down because it promotes boys selling their bodies or escorting in general and they believe this is immoral >

 

Excuse me?? Surely you aren't suggesting that promoting escorting and promoting barebacking are even in the same universe when it comes to risks and morality. x( (I'm sure you have "friends" who think this, but you seem to be more enlightened).

 

< How on earth can someone go from the original post to insinuating that Aaron is HIV (EWC - First time poster). That to me is disgusting. >

 

I agree, it's utterly unfair and offbase to make insinuations about Aaron's HIV status. However, with all due respect, what I find more offensive is that you seem to be more concerned about the inference to Aaron's health than you are about the HIV status of a generation of sexually active gay kids. x(

 

< If Aaron has jumped on the barebacking bandwagon, then so be it. That is his right. He is not escorting anymore. He is a web master and a retailer of videos. I am sure he had good reasons for what ever business decision he made. >

 

Hello??

 

Fact: barebacking among gay teens/20-somethings today has reached double-digit rates

 

Fact: barebacking in videos sends the message, "it's ok" to impressionable young people

 

Fact: barebacking outside of a monogamous relationship is the surest way to HIV + status

 

Being in business in this country means, among other things, accepting corporate responsibility. Corporate responsibility in the gay porn business means acknowledging the above facts, and behaving accordingly.

 

It's really very simple: do you give a flying fuck about the lives of your impressionable viewers, or do you have "good reasons for whatever business decision" you make?

 

I guess we'll find out Aaron's answer, if we already haven't. x( x(

[Guest pyell]

RE: Good Advice

 

OK, I withdraw in relation to one entry only, which I hadn't seen before, namely Aaron's funfest. Clearly he went bareback, but I hadn't seen that diary entry before when I posted what I wrote.

 

However, if you read all the others, you will see that I am right about all of them. Aaron himself did not take part in bareback sex. He filmed it, true, and he was in scenes with some of these guys, but he was not doing it bareback. That's why I thought the original attacks on him were a tad unfair.

 

But now that I see the one where he says he did it himself, well, I start to share some doubts about him.

 

I had a session with Aaron a few years back when I was passing through New York. He was the all time best escort I've ever had: friendly, funny, charming, making me feel as if I were his boyfriend, and really good sex too. I'd always wondered how his real bf put up with this activity.

[Guest Utopia]

ncm your post is sensational and very been there done that. This topic has been discussed in this forum countless times and you have added absolutely nothing to state a case against barebacking.

 

Reading your post the first thing that rings so hypocritical. Why would you subscribe to a newsletter from an adult studio that features virtually all bareback videos if you're so shocked and unnerved by such acts?

 

I believe that any informed adult should make his own choice. I do not want you telling me what is acceptable or when I have sex anymore than the republican right telling me I shouldn't fuck a guy in the ass or I will go to hell.

 

I have stated many times that barebacking is not a choice I would make in the era but I don't disrespect those adults who do so.

 

Hey did you know video games are bad for you too?

 

It is one thing to be alive it is another to live! Don't be so fearful and don't spread your own fears.

 

"mother's goona help build you a wall"

[Guest ncm2169]

< Reading your post the first thing that rings so hypocritical. Why would you subscribe to a newsletter from an adult studio that features virtually all bareback videos if you're so shocked and unnerved by such acts? >

 

I don't subscribe to Aaron's newsletter. What I quoted is all over the net, free, without any adult check, which makes it all the more egregious. That said, Aaron has made at least 32 videos that I am aware of -- 4 of them contain barebacking. That's 4 too many, but it's nice to deal in the facts. As for what shocks and unnerves me, please review my original post. My point is, was, and remains that gay porn studios that feature barebacking are morally bankrupt.

 

< ncm your post is sensational and very been there done that. This topic has been discussed in this forum countless times and you have added absolutely nothing to state a case against barebacking >

 

Yes, it was intended to be both sensational and repetitive. It needs to be said over and over. If you don't want to read it, that's your choice.

 

< Hey did you know video games are bad for you too? >

 

I hope that sentence isn't indicative of your attitude toward HIV. If it is, you're one sick mutha fucka.

 

< I do not want you telling me what is acceptable or when I have sex anymore than the republican right telling me I shouldn't fuck a guy in the ass or I will go to hell. >

 

For the record, I don't care what you do in your private life, and I wouldn't want you telling me what to do either.

 

Once again, you either miss or dodge my point. I'm concerned about a generation coming of age in an environment where barebacking is all too often seen as "no big deal." Well, it IS a big deal. Even some of the most well-established gay porn studios adhere to a strict no-barebacking policy, for that simple reason. Those that feature barebacking are contributing to the "no big deal" attitude. It really is that simple.

[+ deej]

>Even some of the most well-established gay

>porn studios adhere to a strict no-barebacking policy, for

>that simple reason.

 

It's mostly due to social pressure and fear of legal repercussions.

 

There are MANY in the porn industry who would gladly drop condom usage this minute if they thought they could get away with it. The ONLY producer who has ever taken a public stand against barebacking (and who remains vocal and immovable) is Chi Chi LaRue.

[HooBoy]

My role models were Roy Rogers and Dale Evans.

 

I do not think they barebacked, since they adopted kids.

 

Damn, I'm glad I chose the right role models.

 

(Down Trigger!!)

[TotallyOz]

That is perhaps the funniest post I have seen on this board. Thank you for bringing a little humor to my morning.

[Guest Utopia]

>< Reading your post the first thing that rings so

>hypocritical. Why would you subscribe to a newsletter from an

>adult studio that features virtually all bareback videos if

>you're so shocked and unnerved by such acts? >

>

>I don't subscribe to Aaron's newsletter.

 

IF you had noticed I was replying to your original post. That refers to Cobra Video. Again I ask why subscrible or visit a site that increases their hits that increases their advertising of a site that is nearly all about barebacking???

 

>< ncm your post is sensational and very been there done that.

>This topic has been discussed in this forum countless times

>and you have added absolutely nothing to state a case against

>barebacking >

>

>Yes, it was intended to be both sensational and repetitive.

 

WELL you succeeded no argument from me on this aspect.

 

>< I do not want you telling me what is acceptable or when I

>have sex anymore than the republican right telling me I

>shouldn't fuck a guy in the ass or I will go to hell. >

>

>For the record, I don't care what you do in your private life,

>and I wouldn't want you telling me what to do either.

>

 

Another poster put it best (in another thread yet same topic ... I quote him, "Be true to yourself and your stick to your standards, but do not become a Pat Robertson and attempt to legislate sexual behavior - the Supreme Court has already struck you down."

[Guest alanm]

I also enjoyed the Roy Rogers and Dale Evans posting.

 

A better posting would have discussed Aaron's barebacking videos and

how your friendship with Aaron apparently stops you from pulling Aaron's Stud of the Day in protest. Aaron is a nice guy, but we all

know that money talks with my man Aaron. Pulling Stud of the Day may get his attention a lot faster than 50 protest e-mails.

[Guest Stephan Lacoste]

>Holy Shit.

>

>The original post for this started out and went to hell from

>there. How on earth can someone go from the original post to

>insinuating that Aaron is HIV (EWC - First time poster). That

>to me is disgusting.

 

I totally agree with you. Stupid and disgusting....

 

 

 

>To set a few things straight. First, I believe that any two

>consenting adults should be able to do what ever the fuck they

>want to do. If they choose to bareback in private or on tape,

>that is their decision. If you choose not to purchase the

>video, that is your right too. What I really hate is someone

>jumping the gun and throwing out accusations about someone

>that he or she may not have met or don't even know based on

>hearsay. Or, making morality judgments based on what they do

>with another adult.

 

People on this website always Throw out accusations but I truly believe it does not come from anywhere, just come from their own experience and culpabilities.

Just let people do what they want da!@#t.

What they cannot admit and will never, is one of them might not agree about bareback video but thousands of others will and they just keep quiet and enjoy the show.

 

Back to my old adage, I have many friends

>that have said the this site should be shut down because it

>promotes boys selling their bodies or escorting in general and

>they believe this is immoral.

 

Again I agree, what is the difference here? Promoting escort at any age selling theirs bodies and souls for money or watching two guys fucking the way they want and really enjoying themselves? If people can't handle it I would suggest them to get to the straight world where mostly bareback is happening...... That might change their point of view.... with probably a hard on....

They are legal age to do what they want, it is not like you are forcing them to do things their are against.... Same as escorting.

 

>

>So, for those of you that write to Aaron, why don't you write

>to Hooboy as well and tell him how horrible it is to have a

>place for open discussion of issues regarding escorts? I will

>tell you why. You have decided that it is ok to hire escorts

>or you may just get a kick out of this site. But, for the

>most part, I believe that the majority of those reading this

>believe it is ok to hire boys/men any give them money in

>exchange for services. I find it hypocritical to say this is

>ok but Aaron shouldn't be making money off of barebacking

>videos.

 

During my escorting time, what amazed me the most was the drugs that both Escorts and Clients was using..... People do want they want, I don't judge them because they do it, I don't care, it does not hurt me.... but did not say anything about it.... just stayed quiet and let them do what they want as I was not involved....

It just happens that one of the best escorts in the world has to be smart in marketing and knows where the money is and does what he wants to do as an adult. Again escorting which is illegal again, is not a problem for those people complaining right now, but two adults barebacking isn't illegal to my knowledge. You might not like it, I might not like it, but some people out there enjoy watching it and doing it.

 

>

>I understand the stigma associated with barebacking. But, do

>you honestly believe in the gay community at large there there

>is not the same stigma attached to hiring escorts? I am not

>trying to say the two are the same. I don't believe they are.

>But, I always find it interesting to have someone condemn

>someone else in this setting. I find this site informative

>and full of information. I also find Aaron's site informative

>and love going to it.

 

 

 

>If Aaron has jumped on the barebacking bandwagon, then so be

>it. That is his right. He is not escorting anymore. He is a

>web master and a retailer of videos. I am sure he had good

>reasons for what ever business decision he made.

>

>Aaron is a nice guy. He was a great escort and will be

>remembered for all he has done for the escorting industry. I

>wish him well in his site and all his work on future projects.

> Having said this, I haven't bought a video from him. I just

>think he should make the kind of videos he wants to make that

>have the widest market appeal.

 

 

 

Aaron keep up the good work..... Those yelling right just beg for more vidoes but they will never admit it ...