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I know, I know that it is phenomenally un-PC to say this and to show such insensitivity to the alledged victim in this case, and to make light of a possible rape, but DAMN! I get a hard-on everytime I hear the story of being bent over a chair with Kobe pounding away from behind. I guarantee I wouldn't have been saying "NO NO" unless it was "No Don't Stop!" Kobe could ravage my ass any time he wanted. But I guess I'm just a slut. :p

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>I guarantee I wouldn'thave been saying "NO NO" unless it was "No >Don't Stop!" Kobe could ravage my ass any time he wanted.

 

I quite agree - the stupid bitch didn't know how lucky she was!

 

>But I guess I'm just a slut. :p

 

Welcome to the club - so am I.

 

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>I guarantee I wouldn't

>have been saying "NO NO" unless it was "No Don't Stop!" Kobe

>could ravage my ass any time he wanted. But I guess I'm just

>a slut. :p

 

What makes you think she said anything different? What makes you doubt that she is a slut? She had three different partners in 3 days. That sounds pretty slutty to me. What do you bet when the trial is over she poses for a pic in Hustler?!

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Well fukamarine you are definitely a slut and most of all you are an "ignorant slut"! Explain your rationale in denigrating Arnie for his groping but extolling Kobe for forcefully fucking a woman against her will after she has said that she doesn't want to do it.

 

Good luck on getting Kobe to fuck you! :) Give him about 2 years behind bars with no women in sight and he might be desperate enough to fuck your tired assed "man pussy", but I doubt it as in reality you would probably have to wait at least 10 years. ;(

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Oh PUHLEEZEE! This is coming from you?????? Are you avowing to this board that you haven't had sex with more than one partner in a 3 day period?

 

If so, does that make you a slut? Does that justify someone continuing to fuck you after you have said "I don't want to anymore"?

 

NO MEANS NO PERIOD and STOP NOW MEANS STOP!!!!!!!!!! To continue after these statements is force and force means RAPE and if the facts present themselves as such and the jury finds this to be the case, then Kobe should go to prison, just like any other man who isn't a highly paid sports star/celebrity.

 

I personally, and I feel most on this board will disagree with this, find it appalling that men feel it is perfectly okay to fuck a woman after she has said no or has said to stop. ;(

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>Oh PUHLEEZEE! This is coming from you?????? Are you avowing

>to this board that you haven't had sex with more than one

>partner in a 3 day period?

>

>If so, does that make you a slut? Does that justify someone

>continuing to fuck you after you have said "I don't want to

>anymore"?

>

>NO MEANS NO PERIOD and STOP NOW MEANS STOP!!!!!!!!!! To

>continue after these statements is force and force means RAPE

>and if the facts present themselves as such and the jury finds

>this to be the case, then Kobe should go to prison, just like

>any other man who isn't a highly paid sports star/celebrity.

>

>I personally, and I feel most on this board will disagree with

>this, find it appalling that men feel it is perfectly okay to

>fuck a woman after she has said no or has said to stop. ;(

 

 

 

 

 

Hey hawk it really is a no-brainer......if somebody continues to penetrate another after they say NO........(and i don't care what kind of, or how much of a slut the person saying NO is) it's rape!!!

 

The kind of people that would disagree with the right of a person to refuse to let another enter there body,are not people worthy of your time.

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>What makes you think she said anything different? What makes

>you doubt that she is a slut? She had three different

>partners in 3 days. That sounds pretty slutty to me.

 

 

Do you actually *read* or *listen* to the news or are you just paying half-a-mind?

 

There is NO evidence she had sex with 3 different partners in 3 days!

 

This was a *defense* statement, in which their lawyers said that the same type of vaginal tearing which the woman suffered persumedly by Bryant raping her could also be caused *IF* -- **IF** -- she had 3 different partners in 3 days.

 

There is nothing to back up this claim, for example, why it would have to be 3 *different* partners, why it would have to be 3 days, and not 2 or not 4.

 

At this statement by the defense, the courtroom reacted with total silence and the judge halted the hearing for a closed session in his chambers with the defense and prosecution attorneys.

 

In other words, the defense made a extremely vicious cheapshot at the victim and the judge took their lawyers into his chambers to rake them over the coals.

 

If this is how the defense is playing this case, then I suspect Bryant is guilt.

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POS defense lawyer...

 

Not even a statement, a question to the medical expert testifying about her really pretty brutal injuries and bruises from 'consensual sex' with this piece of shit. Sounds like a desperate attempt by the defense to stay alive after very damaging testimony that was probably all the jurors needed to convict. I wish bad things happened to lawyers like that. Punishment by the bar, civil suit from the victim, I don't know, but something. Hopefully, at least, they've lost their case...

 

Even more I wish bad things happened to 'news' people who reported sound bites that made it sound even possible... light falling off the grid above their head, etc... :p

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>Are you avowing

>to this board that you haven't had sex with more than one

>partner in a 3 day period?

 

No

 

>If so, does that make you a slut?

 

Yes.

 

>Does that justify someone

>continuing to fuck you after you have said "I don't want to

>anymore"?

 

No, but it is part of the facts that folks should consider in deciding whether my "no" meant "no" or "harder, faster"!

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>Do you actually *read* or *listen* to the news or are you just

>paying half-a-mind?

>

>There is NO evidence she had sex with 3 different partners in

>3 days!

 

Well, it is a preliminary hearing and it is legitimate to test the state's evidence with reasonable questions. If not then, when. If not, why bother with a trial at all. BTW, people do bruise from consexual sex, and please don't forget that the bitch is psycho! I am sure there will be evidence of both before the case is over.

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RE: POS defense lawyer...

 

>Even more I wish bad things happened to 'news' people who

>reported sound bites that made it sound even possible... light

>falling off the grid above their head, etc... :p

 

Sorry to say, but you have no idea what you're talking about. There is lots and lots of evidence - including medical tests - that you are not privy to but which Kobe's lawyers have seen. How do you know there is no basis for asserting that she had sex with 3 different partners in 3 days? You don't know. And I would be very surprised if, at the preliminary hearing stage, this lawyer simply blurted that out without any basis. But we won't know the basis until the trial, which has not yet occurred.

 

Obviously, the mere fact that she had sex with 3 men in 3 days is not a defense to rape. Even the most promiscuous whore has the right not be raped. But if - as is the case - the prosecution intends to rely upon evidence showing that this woman had tears in her vaginal tissue, then the defense has the right, even the obligation, to introduce alternative ways that could have happened.

 

I feel pretty safe in saying that if you were charged with rape, and the prosecution were relying upon the tearing of certain vaginal tissue, you would want the jury to know about other ways she may have sustained these tears other than by you raping her.

 

If Kobe is convicted, he will go to prison for a very long time. He has the right to a vigorous defense which raises every possible doubt that exists in the prosecution's case. It won't be pretty or nice, but it's vital to the proper working of our justice system that his lawyers be zealous and aggressive. You would demand the same for yourself.

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RE: POS defense lawyer...

 

>Obviously, the mere fact that she had sex with 3 men in 3 days

>is not a defense to rape.

 

It is not a fact. They have not even provided a shred of evidence to suggest it's a fact, they've simply asked an inflammatory question to derail damaging testimony. It's been repeated and repeated, in ever-smaller sound bites, to the point that people are taking it as fact, and that's despicable.

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In the case of Kobe having his way with me, I'd be not only his slut but his nympho (ooohhhHH, there 3 others who wan . . . .!!!)}( }( }( :p

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RE: POS defense lawyer...

 

>It is not a fact. They have not even provided a shred of

>evidence to suggest it's a fact, they've simply asked an

>inflammatory question to derail damaging testimony. It's been

>repeated and repeated, in ever-smaller sound bites, to the

>point that people are taking it as fact, and that's

>despicable.

 

It's also NOT a "fact" that Kobe raped anyone, yet everyone is talking about that allegation. Why doesn't that bother you as much?

 

Kobe - without being convicted of ANYTHING - has had the most horrible allegations about him publicized everywhere. Nobody seems to think that's a big deal. But the accuser - who may be falsely accusing him - has a few innuendo made, and everyone acts like a great crime has been committed. What's the difference - unless you assume that Kobe is guilty?

 

Here are a few facts to go with your outrage, from the DAILY NEWS:

 

Retired Eagle County District Court Judge William Jones said Mackey asked the question because she has physical evidence suggesting the tearing could have happened during an earlier sexual encounter.

 

"There was more than one man's semen found in her panties," Jones said. "That's what's behind all of this."

 

Jones said he learned of this from Mackey's co-counsel, Hal Haddon.

 

"I have known him for 40 years," Jones said. "He was doing some work for me and he mentioned it to me. It will come out in due course."

 

* * *

 

Veteran Denver criminal defense attorney Jeralyn Merritt said she's convinced Mackey has something up her sleeve.

 

"By her asking that question, it's clear they have evidence about the accuser," she said. "Pamela Mackey would not have brought this up out of thin air."

 

* * *

 

Karen Steinhauser, another former Denver prosecutor and an expert on sex assault cases, disagreed. She said vaginal tearing also occurs during consensual sex and that Mackey's question was "proper."

 

"There is an exception under the Rape Shield that allows her to ask about the injuries if there is evidence they could have been caused before," she said.

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RE: POS defense lawyer...

 

>"There was more than one man's semen found in her panties,"

>Jones said. "That's what's behind all of this."

 

>Veteran Denver criminal defense attorney Jeralyn Merritt said

>she's convinced Mackey has something up her sleeve.

 

What, more semen? :+

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>In the case of Kobe having his way with me, I'd be not only

>his slut but his nympho (ooohhhHH, there 3 others who wan . .

>. .!!!)}( }( }(

 

 

Why don't you make a copy of this thread and email it to Pat Robertson? I understand he's always looking for evidence to support negative stereotypes of gay men. You and the first two posters in this thread have provided plenty.

 

In regard to the evidence and questions presented at the preliminary hearing, I find it hard to understand why the defense insisted on going ahead with the hearing when they could have waived it. They must have known there was no chance of persuading the judge to dismiss, and with the judge's ruling that the complainant need not testify there was no chance of testing her quality as a witness. The only thing the defense has accomplished in this hearing so far is to alienate the judge who will be presiding at trial and to get an enormous amount of publicity for some extremely graphic and damaging evidence against Bryant.

 

If I were Bryant I would be thinking about getting some new lawyers. I would certainly want to fire the one who let slip to his friend the evidence about the complainant's multiple sex partners.

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>Why don't you make a copy of this thread and email it to Pat

>Robertson? I understand he's always looking for evidence to

>support negative stereotypes of gay men. You and the first

>two posters in this thread have provided plenty.

>

 

Ease up, dude. I'm just saying I think that Kobe is hotter than hell. I would love to enter into a long-time relationship with him and live in monogamous bliss. He probably won't be married that much longer anyway, so I won't even have to worry about being a home-wrecker.

 

Is that a more acceptable gay image for me to project? After all, my number one goal is to find favor in Pat Robertson's eyes. :)

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I must admit that long before this whole rape issue, I did have a wee crush on Le Bryant. Little daydreams, fantasies... but of course, my fantasies took a bit of a different twist. Oh well, in a fantasy, a person can be anyone you want him to be, regardless of his real-life behaviour. I still get rather hot-and-bothered just thinking of him writhing in desparate hystrics... Oh! My indecency knows no bounds!

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>Ease up, dude. I'm just saying I think that Kobe is hotter

>than hell. I would love to enter into a long-time

>relationship with him and live in monogamous bliss. He

>probably won't be married that much longer anyway, so I won't

>even have to worry about being a home-wrecker.

 

Well, at least you seem willing to wait until his marriage is over before having it off with him. Hey, don't worry about it. You're a whoremonger, after all. It's not as though anyone would expect you to have qualities like sensitivity, tact or good taste, right?

 

>Is that a more acceptable gay image for me to project?

 

The image of wanting to be plowed by an alleged rapist in the event he's lucky enough to avoid prison? No, not really.

 

>my number one goal is to find favor in Pat Robertson's

>eyes.

 

Yeah? Mine is to live to see the day when gay men seldom if ever behave in a manner that justifies the contempt the straight world feels for us.

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>Mine is to live to see the day when gay men seldom if

>ever behave in a manner that justifies the contempt the

>straight world feels for us.

 

That's sad that you think the entire "straight world" feels contempt for us, and that you think we have to adapt our behavior for their approval. For one thing, I don't see the world as split into theirs and ours, but even if I did, I wouldn't brand all non-gay people as anti-gay, as you seem to do. And what is this behavior that you think justifies the contempt: liking rough sex? Do you really think straight people don't get into rape fantasies?

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>>Mine is to live to see the day when gay men seldom if

>>ever behave in a manner that justifies the contempt the

>>straight world feels for us.

 

>That's sad that you think the entire "straight world" feels

>contempt for us,

 

I'm afraid it's not a matter of opinion. You see, unlike some of the people who frequent this board I actually know what straight people say when they think there are no gays around.

 

>and that you think we have to adapt our

>behavior for their approval. For one thing, I don't see the

>world as split into theirs and ours,

 

If you think gay people have a distinct set of beliefs in which giggling over the charms of an alleged rapist is considered cute rather than disgusting, then you are envisioning a gulf between the two worlds which is far greater than the one I perceive.

 

 

>but even if I did, I

>wouldn't brand all non-gay people as anti-gay, as you seem to

>do.

 

I suspect the fact that you live in one of the major gay ghettos has something to do with your point of view. Just a theory.

 

>And what is this behavior that you think justifies the

>contempt: liking rough sex? Do you really think straight

>people don't get into rape fantasies?

 

I think rape is one of the most common sexual fantasies of both men and women of every sexual orientation. But I think (or hope) that very few people of any orientation would have the poor taste to project such a fantasy onto a real-life rape suspect and giggle over it with their chums.

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>I'm afraid it's not a matter of opinion. You see, unlike some

>of the people who frequent this board I actually know what

>straight people say when they think there are no gays around.

 

Yeah - the great benefits of living your life hiding and ashamed - you get to hear what "straight people say when they think there are no gays around." What a fucking treat. Definitely worth it to stay hidden and embarrassed about what you are.

 

Who gives a fuck what "straight people think" - as though there even is such a thing. And it's beyond sad that you think it's something to boast about that the straight people around you feel free to bad mouth gay people because the faggot standing near them - you - conceals your identity. You should be very proud of that.

 

>If you think gay people have a distinct set of beliefs in

>which giggling over the charms of an alleged rapist is

>considered cute rather than disgusting, then you are

>envisioning a gulf between the two worlds which is far greater

>than the one I perceive.

 

If you really had the great privilege of listening to straight guys talk before, then it would be impossible for you to think that they all express highly proper and civilized notions about sex. Ever hear straight guys talk about pussy before? Did that sound elevated and dignified to you before?

 

Do you walk around with a lace shirt with a flowery collar buttoned up to the top button? I mean, this is a fucking escort forum where guys come to talk about what gets them off. So this guy has a rape fantasy. Big fucking deal.

 

You acknowledge that straight people have rape fantasies, and that it's quite common. Why are they better - because they hide it and are ashamed to talk about it, whereas some people here aren't ashamed of their fantasies? That justifies gassing gay people and putting them in camps and doing everything else that Pat Robertson would like to do? Are you fucking insane?

 

You have such a desperate need to be liked and accepted and viewed as clean by straight people that you live your life in a fucking straight jacket, digusted by anything having to do with sex other than heterosexual sex in the missionary position with the lights out. This guy expresses his fantasy and you tell him he's why Pat Roberston justifiably hates gay people - as though he should adapt his life to obtain Pat's approval. Don't you see how sick that is?

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>You see, unlike some

>of the people who frequent this board I actually know what

>straight people say when they think there are no gays around.

 

Oh, you're in the closet; I never knew that before. That's interesting that you criticize the behavior of out gay men when you aren't out yourself. Also, it's presumptuous to assume that the homophobes you hang out with represent all heterosexuals (and, some of them are probably gay anyway).

 

>If you think gay people have a distinct set of beliefs in

>which giggling over the charms of an alleged rapist is

>considered cute rather than disgusting

 

I don't think that's a gay trait. I bet there are lots of women who'd love to get banged by Kobe.

 

>I suspect the fact that you live in one of the major gay

>ghettos has something to do with your point of view. Just a

>theory.

 

Bad theory. Maybe that was true in 1998 but "the straight world" has moved in and taken over. And your logic is illogical anyway.

 

>But I think

> (or hope) that very few people of any orientation would have

>the poor taste to...

 

Honey, this is America; we all have poor taste (I'm channeling Sandy Bernhard). :+

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>I'm afraid it's not a matter of opinion. You see, unlike some

>of the people who frequent this board I actually know what

>straight people say when they think there are no gays around.

 

Sad but true. Even at a large, fairly progressive multi-national corporation with many rules against such behavior, it is amazing what people (mostly men) will say when they think it is safe. The situation surrounding the death of my partner nudged me out of the closet at work, so for the most part, I no longer hear this type of talk. However, it’s been a number of years now and new people come around who don’t necessarily know my background and will let comments slip.

 

I actually never say anything to them because I know they are eventually going to find out about me and it makes me grin to think they might be mortified. I also think they need to learn a lesson about assuming someone is straight and that they can get away with that kind of bullshit.

 

I think contempt is a little strong, but there is a definite level of disdain. I really don’t think most of them wish any harm on us, but they are definitely not the “Queer Eye for a Straight Guy” supportive set that anyone should confuse with the norm. But in the end, who cares?

 

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I haven’t changed my mind. Why should we care about the acceptance of all (or even most) straight people? I demand to be tolerated…I demand my rights…but I really don’t care if they invite me over for dinner.

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