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I am surprised that nobody has pointed out that "Hollywood" is an insular community where power is commiserate with the level of success. When someone is at the top it is very difficult for someone to 'out' them without ruining their own prospects or even the ability to find work in the industry. This does allow the star to get away with improper behavior and insulates them against accusations. I somehow don't think that an unconnected group of women decided that they would 'stick it" to Cosby. Rather I am inclined to think that once the dam was broken, abused sources came out in support of the brave women that finally spoke out. Also remember that according to many, rape is not necessarily a crime of sex as much as it is a power manifestation. Whoever told you that celebrities are no different then us, has never met a major celebrity.

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marylander1940 Grand Master

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Perhaps we shouldn't prosecute people in the news or on social media.

 

I disagree with you Mr. Daddy, without the pressure of the news and social media, many crimes wouldn't be even considered by District Attorneys and completely ignored by the society.

 

Social media is here to stay, let's make it useful.

 

Cosby will never go to jail but he'll feel it in his pocket and specially in his ego, even the filthy rich would like a few more millions.

 

I can't wait for a right wing nut in Fox News saying he did it because his black and he only raped white women.:mad:

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I disagree with you Mr. Daddy, without the pressure of the news and social media, many crimes wouldn't be even considered by District Attorneys and completely ignored by the society.

 

Social media is here to stay, let's make it useful.

 

Cosby will never go to jail but he'll feel it in his pocket and specially in his ego, even the filthy rich would like a few more millions.

 

I can't wait for a right wing nut in Fox News saying he did it because his black and he only raped white women.:mad:

 

Actually a black woman just came forth. Apparently the 'Cos' was an equal opportunity rapist.

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If Cosby didn't want embarrassing details to emerge, maybe he shouldn't have drugged and raped people.

PHILADELPHIA – A lawyer for Bill Cosby argued Friday that it would be "terribly embarrassing" for the comedian if documents from a 2005 sex-assault lawsuit were unsealed.

 

Cosby is fighting efforts by The Associated Press to unseal motions from a lawsuit he settled with a former Temple University employee.

 

The lawsuit accused Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting the woman at Cosby's home. The settlement is confidential.

 

Cosby's lawyer argued that his client's deposition could reveal details of Cosby's marriage, sex life and prescription drug use.

 

"It would be terribly embarrassing for this material to come out," lawyer George M. Gowen III argued.

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Well I'm going to twist things another way. What's ever happened with the alleged sexual assault by John Travolta against a number of people who have stepped forward. Does money get you off the hook. Does anyone not believe that Mr. Cosby and Mr. Travolta (hypocrite) didn't get away with things that others wouldn't have? Thoughts?

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Well I'm going to twist things another way. What's ever happened with the alleged sexual assault by John Travolta against a number of people who have stepped forward. Does money get you off the hook.

 

Yes.

hush mon·ey

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  1. money paid to someone to prevent them from disclosing embarrassing or discreditable information.

 

Money talks, and bullshit walks.

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Yes.

hush mon·ey

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  1. money paid to someone to prevent them from disclosing embarrassing or discreditable information.

 

Money talks, and bullshit walks.

hey dutchmuch; thanks like your response.

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Here's an article by an instructor in psychology at Harvard Medical School who conducts research on the neurobiology of trauma which explains the neuroscience behind reactions to traumas such as rape, like freezing and not calling for help, that seem unreasonable to the rest of us and lead us to put the blame on the victim instead of where it belongs:

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/23/why-many-rape-victims-dont-fight-or-yell/?utm_content=buffer444c7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

Excerpt:

 

Bringing together the accounts of those who have been assaulted with the neurobiology of trauma can play an essential role in supporting healing and the pursuits of accountability and justice.

 

For example, freezing is a brain-based response to detecting danger, especially a predator’s attack. Think deer in the headlights.

 

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Freezing occurs when the amygdala – a crucial structure in the brain’s fear circuitry – detects an attack and signals the brainstem to inhibit movement. It happens in a flash, automatically and beyond conscious control.

 

It’s a brain response that rapidly shifts the organism into a state of vigilance for incoming attacks and avenues of escape. Eyes widen, pupils dilate. Hearing becomes more acute. The body is primed for fight or flight. But as we shall see, neither fight nor flight necessarily follows.

 

Simultaneously with the freeze response, the fear circuitry unleashes a surge of “stress chemicals” into the prefrontal cortex, the brain region that allows us to think rationally – to recall the bedroom door is open, or that people are in the dorm room next door, for example, and to make use of that information. But the surge of chemicals rapidly impairs the prefrontal cortex. That’s because, despite our dominant role on the planet now, we evolved as prey, and when a lion or tiger is upon us, stopping to think is fatal.

 

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But what if you’re being sexually assaulted and there’s no effective habit learning to fall back on?

 

What if you’re a woman and the only habits your brain cues up are those you’ve always relied upon to ward off unwanted sexual advances – like saying, “I have to go home now” or “Your girlfriend will find out”? Those phrases, and passive behaviors that go with them, may be your only responses, until it’s too late.

 

Countless victims of sexual assault describe just such responses. Too often police officers, college administrators, even friends and family think to themselves – and say out loud – “Why didn’t you run out of the room?” “Why didn’t you scream?”

 

For those who assume a functional prefrontal cortex – including many victims as they look back on what happened – passive habit responses can be baffling. They seem exactly the opposite of how they surely would – or should – have responded.

 

But when the fear circuitry takes over and the prefrontal cortex is impaired,habits and reflexes may be all we’ve got.

 

And if the fear circuitry perceives escape as impossible and resistance as futile, then not fight or flight, but extreme survival reflexes (which scientists call “animal defense responses”) will take over. These can activate automatically when the body is in a predator’s grip – and when, as half of rape victims report, we fear death or serious injury.

 

One such response is tonic immobility. In freezing, brain and body are primed for action. But in tonic immobility, the body is literally paralyzed by fear – unable to move, speak, or cry out. The body goes rigid. Hands may go numb.

 

Collapsed immobility is another. Think possum, playing dead. To see what this looks like (and get a humorous break from this difficult topic), you can watch the YouTube videos that come up for “passes out on Slingshot ride.”

 

Some people describe feeling “like a rag doll” as the perpetrator did whatever he wanted. And thanks to rapid drops in heart rate and blood pressure, some become faint and may even pass out. Some describe feeling “sleepy.”

 

Too often, from precinct stations to courtrooms, victims are met with disbelief: How could it be rape if you were sleepy?!

 

Another, more common reflexive response is dissociation: spacing out, feeling unreal, disconnected from the horrible emotions and sensations of such an intimate violation.

 

Unless someone is drugged or intoxicated into unconsciousness, eventually the brain’s fear circuitry will detect the attack.

 

Most victims will freeze, if only briefly. Some will fight back, effectively. Some will resist in habitual, passive ways. Some will suddenly give in and cry. Others will become paralyzed, become faint, pass out or dissociate.

 

Few who have experienced these responses realize that they are brain reactions to attack and terror.

 

They blame themselves for “failing” to resist. They feel ashamed. (Men especially may see themselves as cowards and feel like they’re not real men.) They may tell no one, even during an investigation. Sadly, many investigators and prosecutors still don’t know some or all of these brain-based responses.

 

None of these responses – in women or men – entails consent or cowardice.

 

None is evidence of resistance too insufficient to warrant our respect and compassion.

 

They are responses we should expect from brains dominated by the circuitry of fear (just as we should expect fragmented and incomplete memories).

 

May the day come when everyone who knows someone who has been sexually assaulted – which is all of us, whether we know that yet or not – understands these basic ways that our brains can react to such attacks and uses this knowledge to foster healing and justice.

 

(emphasis added.)

 

It's important to note that these are human responses, not ones limited to one gender or the other. Nor are these responses limited to rape; they apply to other traumas as well. While a more open attitude toward sex might lessen the stigma of rape, particularly for women, it's not the victim's behavior that's the problem. It's the rapist's and, since research suggests the majority are repeat offenders who are aware of what they're doing, as opposed to the stereotype people try to pass off on us of a poor schlub who read the signals wrong, ultimately it's a problem society has to deal with.

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CNN just had a really bad "oops" moment, as far as I'm concerned. They're discussing the news of the Quaalude admission on Anderson Cooper's show. At the first commercial break, the voiceover announced that "the program is being brought to you by Cialis."

 

I know the drugs have very different functions...but under the circumstances, I think that was very bad judgement. (Even if Cialis would normally have been the sponsor anyway.)

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