Why Do Young Escorts Do HIV Risky Behaviors

[Guest Cumbee]

I am enamored with Tommy DeLuca. I think he is close to perfect. A little thin, but nice. I have talked with him via Email. He seems reasonably decent and down to earth. I could go for him in a big way.

 

The problem is that I've seen several of his videos in which he engages in risky behavior. I saw one (Country Charm) where it APPEARED he was barebacking anally and taking loads on his face and in his mouth. I have seen several others that included similar oral behavior sans the anal barebacking. Having seen that, I fear hiring him.

 

Why would a beautiful young kid like thios engage in this type of behavior. I usually avoid barebacking vids in the first place. But when do I see older models barebacking, I just assume that they are probably HIV+ already. I assume that their partner(s) share that status. I assume all know of the other's status. I STILL dispise barebacking videos, but assume this is their decision to make.

 

But when I see these young models, who I HOPE are still HIV-, engaging in this risky behavior, I just have to wonder WHY, WHY, WHY?

[Guest ncm2169]

Two answers.

 

One: It's all about the money. For further explanation, ask Aaron Lawrence or Cobra Video or any number of other gay porn studios.

 

Two: It's their personal choice and NO ONE should EVER question, let alone criticize, either their behavior or the motives of porn producers who portray barebacking. For further explanation, ask Doogie.

 

Take your choice.

 

:+

[VaHawk]

>But when I see these young models, who I HOPE are still HIV-, engaging in this risky behavior, I just have to wonder WHY, WHY, WHY?

 

Why not? They are only doing what a lot of people these days are doing, not just porn actors. I guess this is why the number of AIDS cases is increasing.

 

Your comment about the older actors is really ridiculous and borders on ageism. It implies that since they are older that they are more likely to be infected, over someone who is younger. What logic are you using to make this assumption? IMO, probably the reverse is true, as the younger ones are too young to remember when AIDS was basically a death sentence and the modern medications weren't around and are much more likely to engage in unprotected sex.

[+ Hoover42]

>But when I see these young models, who I HOPE are still HIV-,

>engaging in this risky behavior, I just have to wonder WHY,

>WHY, WHY?

 

One suggestion that I've heard is that it is the nature of young people to feel a sense of invulnerability, especially to potential health problems.

 

In addition, I've heard that many young gay men believe that the AIDS "problem" has been addressed (if not eliminated) by modern combination-therapy medications.

 

...Hoover

[BewareofNick]

>Two answers.

>

>One: It's all about the money. For further explanation, ask

>Aaron Lawrence or Cobra Video or any number of other gay porn

>studios.

 

here we go again, moron, with your pathetic little obsession over Aaron Lawrence. Do you have a little shrine to him that you shoot your cum on as you think of his vile and disgusting bareback sex?

 

>Two: It's their personal choice and NO ONE should EVER

>question, let alone criticize, either their behavior or the

>motives of porn producers who portray barebacking. For

>further explanation, ask Doogie.

 

perhaps if you weren't such a sanctimonious, self righteous..

 

Oh, shit, i posted this under the wrong username. Damn it.

 

Please ignore. Where's that fucking edit button?

[Doug69]

>The problem is that I've seen several of his videos in which

>he engages in risky behavior. I saw one (Country Charm) where

>it APPEARED he was barebacking anally and taking loads on his

>face and in his mouth.

 

I'd love to know what percentage of escorts you think haven't taken cum in their mouth. If you want to start eliminating all escorts who have done that, I don't think you'll be left with very many.

 

>Why would a beautiful young kid like thios engage in this type

>of behavior.

 

Maybe because, like huge numbers of people, he doesn't think that taking cum in his mouth is a high risk behavior for HIV and that virtually everyone who got HIV through sexual activity got it by taking cum in their ass, not their mouth. Or maybe he already has HIV and thinks that the risks from taking cum is minimal compared to the pleasure. Or maybe it's all of these and none of these and he needs the moeny.

 

I don't understand why you care. Don't you assume that every escort you hire is HIV+ and act accordingly? What would you do or not do with him differently than you would with any other escort?

[Guest ncm2169]

Ummm, BON , confused here. x(

 

All I ever said about you (as I recall) is that I LOVE your "Shrub/is our children learning" line. }(

 

What the fuck? :o

[Flower]

>But when I see these young models, who I HOPE are still HIV-,

>engaging in this risky behavior, I just have to wonder WHY,

>WHY, WHY?

Why, why, (why) are you just limiting your query to escorts and young models?

 

Don't you assume that anyone you have annonymous or 4hire sex with is pos and take whatever precautions you are comfortable with anyway? If you do, then what's your problem with their "behaviour?"

 

Just wondering?

[Doug69]

>Ummm, BON , confused here. x(

 

You are, in fact, confused. BoN was not attacking you. He was satarizing my replies to you - writing it under the pretense that he was me, ridiculing the reply he thought I would write to you. That's why he added the bit about "oh, oops, signed under the wrong screen name" and "where's the edit button."

 

I agree it wasn't the most smashingly successful satire ever, but then again, it IS BoN, so you have to adjust your expectations, and he deserves some credit for the effort. An "A" for effort, if you will. It was cute - just like little BoN.

[BewareofNick]

>You are, in fact, confused. BoN was not attacking you. He

>was satarizing my replies to you - writing it under the

>pretense that he was me, ridiculing the reply he thought I

>would write to you. That's why he added the bit about "oh,

>oops, signed under the wrong screen name" and "where's the

>edit button."

 

Sorry, ncm, I thought you'd get that, but thanks to Doug for pointing it out. His assessment was 100% on the money. And it probably saved you from the real thing too

 

>I agree it wasn't the most smashingly successful satire ever,

>but then again, it IS BoN, so you have to adjust your

>expectations, and he deserves some credit for the effort. An

>"A" for effort, if you will. It was cute - just like little

>BoN.

 

Aw, Doug, that's like a Christmas present from Ebeneezer Scrogge

[Guest ncm2169]

LOL Yeah, BON, it was late when I first read that. Gotcha now. Appreciate the humor. :+

 

But now I'm confused again. Doogie said,

 

< "He was satarizing my replies to you..." >

 

Does he mean satyrizing? }(

 

From the Merriam Webster online dictionary:

 

< sa·tyr

Pronunciation: 'sA-t&r, chiefly British 'sa-

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Latin satyrus, from Greek satyros

1 often capitalized : a sylvan deity in Greek mythology having certain characteristics of a horse or goat and fond of Dionysian revelry

2 a : a lecherous man b : one having satyriasis

3 : any of various usually brown and gray satyrid butterflies >

 

 

 

;-)

[guptasa1]

Here's my own opinion on the subject (and I don't want to get in a debate with anyone - lol - just stating my opinion).

 

You don't likely know the details of that video, so who can say how safe he is?

 

It's possible (I grant unlikely, but we don't know) that with the barebacking, both were tested extensively before shooting and both knew they were HIV- before engaging in the sexual activity depicted. I do agree with you if they were not absolutely sure of their status, this was in my opinion foolish, but if they were, I don't really personally see a problem with it.

 

And as far as the videos of taking cum on the face and in the mouth, studies have shown oral sex to be a very low risk activity (maybe even safer than protected anal sex). I read a fairly recent article (I think it was on PlanetOut, but I honestly can't remember) that put the chance of getting HIV from unprotected oral sex at 1 in 400,000. If I remember right, the article even explained that there might be an explanation for those who do contract it that way (such as very poor gums, etc.) Granted this was just one study and from what I recall it didn't take into account how many people took cum in their mouth, etc., but it did definitely include HIV+ people with HIV- partners.

 

Anyways, to sum up my thoughts based on what I believe to be true, is barebacking risky? Yes, but good testing and knowledge of one's status can minimize or even eliminate risk (granted to do the latter would probably require a period of abstinence and a lot of testing...more than most people would likely do). Is unprotected oral sex risky? Yes, but not nearly as risky as a lot of other activities, possibly even protected anal sex. I consider ANY sexual activity to be risky...for me, it's just a matter of being SAFER and choosing what to participate in based on the risk level (for me, that's unprotected oral sex, but everything else protected).

 

Just my two cents.

[guptasa1]

Since I wanna be a good boy *wagas his tail*, I'm even including a citation:

 

http://www.planetout.com/pno/news/article.html?2001/08/15/2

[Guest Julian Kaye]

stupidity

 

>But when I see these young models, who I HOPE are still HIV-,

>engaging in this risky behavior, I just have to wonder WHY,

>WHY, WHY?

[Guest alanm]

Joey Stefano

 

For me (and I hope many members of the message center) the use of

protection in gay porn videos was a significant step forward in the fight against HIV/AIDS. Hey, maybe it was only a small victory, but

I remember being happy when it happened.

 

We all understand that in many cases the "models" in the barebacking videos may be taking little or no risk, but it still represents a

setback.

 

On a personal note, I remember meeting porn superstar Joey Stefano

at a gay bar in South Jersey in 1991 on one of his visits home. Joey was larger in person than his videos would indicate. He was also more street smart than most escorts. Joey clearly was working that night because he kept talking about how lonely it was back at his hotel.

I always regret not taking him up on his offer. I still am not sure whether I refused because he intimadated me or because I was sure he was HIV positive (the latter is the point of this long digression, besides my liking to name drop).

[Cooper]

Cumbee, Your "fear" to hire Tommy Deluca or any escort is your own business. I've "hired" Tommy and found him to be not only an excellent escort, but very safe in all his actions. I have no "fear" in hiring him again.

 

When I read your concerns, I contacted Tommy about them. Although, I have not seen the video in question, he assures me he is having protected sex with his video partner.

 

Tommy wants to set the record straight on this issue and has ask that you, or anyone else who might want to question him about his video sex scenes, to contact him at tommydelucaent@yahoo.com

 

Cumbee, since you mentioned in your thread that you've been e-mailing Tommy, did you ever ask him about this? Perhaps if you did, you could have avoided your "fears" and had a very pleasurable time with him. Tommy is a good looking twink, who's very professional in what he does. For a little guy, he's got 9" of rock hard cock. :9

[Guest laverite]

>One suggestion that I've heard is that it is the nature of

>young people to feel a sense of invulnerability, especially to

>potential health problems.

 

I am not sure it is just young people though. The thing about sex is that it is a basic human drive, and it is not always rational. I think one has to distinguish between those who engage in repeated barebacking, and those who occasionally get swept away in the heat of the moment and bareback almost by accident. The two occasions in my life where I have barebacked have been precisely such moments where the escort opened up, and let me slip it in in a second or two. Of course, once in, the immediate thought is I should get out, but that is easier said than done. Ditto when it comes to cumming! One question that I have is whether making people guilty for understandable human accidents might actually encourage folks adopt a "fuck it, I don't give a shit attitude" towards the whole thing.

[Guest ncm2169]

< One question that I have is whether making people guilty for understandable human accidents might actually encourage folks adopt a "fuck it, I don't give a shit attitude" towards the whole thing. >

 

Sure. Fuck it. Who gives a shit about HIV? x(

[Guest Cumbee]

Hi guys. Boy, did I screw up! And I apologize. I should not have mentioned Tommy DeLuca by name. I ONLY know him through his videos, and a few emails that he has been nice enough to exchange with me. I have no KNOWLEDGE that he is practicing unsafe ANYTHING! My post said that it APPEARED he did so, but I know that can be done via camera angles, etc.

 

I only mentioned him because I think that he is SOO HOT and I have "talked" to him on the computer. I could just as easily mentioned some of the Cobra Video models for instance, but I don't know them at all. So, in a sense, I punished Tommy for being nice enough to communicate with me. Talk about getting the horse and the cart inverted, AFTER I posted here I emailed Tommy. He settled my worries. I was WRONG, and am SO SORRY!

 

I am bi. The health crisis scared me off for years. I have been with only one escort in the "modern era". I've seen him regularly for over two years, and been trying to get him off drugs and into a little more stable life the whole time. Recently I realized I've failed, and been ripped off to boot! Time to move on. So that put me back "in the market" so to speak.

 

Tommy is my next target when I get out east next. I still have health reservations. I guess I was "thinking out loud" on this board, looking for responses to help rsolve my trebidations. I got that. Thanks. But I hope I did not get it at Tommy's expense, because I think he is GREAT! :o

[guptasa1]

If I may be so bold, your health concerns probably won't go away immediately (and might even be related to a feeling of initial guilt either about gay sex or hiring escorts - guilt affected me that way after my first few times with an escort). Relax - if you practice safer sex, you should be fine, but to ease your mind, I'd recommend finding a free clinic and get tested several weeks after your first encounter, if for nothing else, to ease your mind. I think it's a good idea to get tested regularly anyhow if you're sexually active, even if it's safe sex. You may wish to test every time after your first few encounters, but you'll likely feel better and less worried after the first few "negatives." I know I tested quite a bit initially, and now I think I'm comfortable with testing every 3 or 4 months...or maybe even every 6...as long as I don't feel unnecessary risks were taken. Just my two cents.