"To Pay Or Not To Pay"...The VERDICT Is In !

[Guest Mikel]

I guess the best I could hope for from this Jury would be a mistrial based on a hung Jury! I took a real tongue lashing from the clear majority, but thank God a few members of this esteemed Jury weren't so quick to convict! An innocent man would have been dragged off to the dungeons of the Hooboy Castle! Anyways, thanks to all of you for "fulfillling your civil duty" and sitting on this prestigous Jury. I won't call on you for another 7 years.

 

I'm not at all offended by those who entirely castigated me as contriving this whole scenerio. Actually, I'm quite complimented and only wish I was as creatively imaginative as you accuse me of being. Nonetheless, it is all true. Sorry, Huey, if that disappoints you! To the cynics and skeptics, don't bother reading on because you'll only find the "verdict" more incredulous!

 

That is not to say that "entertainment" was not part of the purpose of the original post. Reality can be very entertaining...thus a multi-billion dollar industry in "Reality TV". Please note that I did not post the original as a "question" seeking advice, but merely posted it as "General".

 

Here are some details the prosecutors wouldn't allow to be admitted in the trial!

 

On the morning of my last full day in Palm Springs, I visited another resort with a day pass. I arrived early, at 9 AM to secure a tan before departing the next day. Not many people are up at that hour at these resorts...also, the "prime space" to catch the rays poolside is rather limited. Thus, I recline in a chair next to one of the few who is also sunning at this ungodly, early hour. This person turns out to be the escort I'm scheduled to meet at 8PM.

 

We engage in conversation. I mention I had been to Joshua Tree National Monument. That leads to extensive conversation on our camping adventures to various National Parks. We both turn out to be avid wilderness campers. I mention that I have camped Denali Park (Mt. McKinley - highest peak in N. America @ 20, 000 ft) and Katmai National Park (Brooks Falls with all the Grizzlies eating Salmon as they jump up the falls attemting to spawn), both in Alaska, on seven different occassions. I mention my travel plans with friends to these destinations June 21 - July 5, 2004. (For those who have traveled to Alaska, you know it is NOT too early to be booked, especially with the lottery systems for these parks.) He has ALWAYS wanted to wilderness camp in Alaska, he despises the thought of Cruise Ships to Alaska as much as I do. He is also an avid photographer as I am (for a hobby) and knows wilderness camping in Alaska is unparralled for wildlife photo ops. He has also wanted to see the "Land of the Midnight Sun" and June 21st is the best time to see Alaska for this reason! Bottom line, I invite him ( and a friend of his that he has mentioned) to join me and my friends...as we own a lot of the right gear which is extremely expensive and critical. He spends time on his cell discussing all of this with his friend while increasingly getting enthused at the prospect of his dream trip to Alaska finally becoming a reality.

 

Many other common interests (ie...we are bothh seeing the "Kiss My Brass" tour of Bette Midler) helped us to really bond. By the time we finished dinner, we had been conversing for nearly 12 hours. Thus, when I played that notorious voice message for him, I thought I knew him well enough to predict his response...a hearty laugh. I was right! He laughed heartily!! (He did add, "Your not going to review me as a "no show". are you?" To which I laughed and reminded him he was NOT a "no show" because he cancelled. My opinion..he had the right to cancel as much as he had the right to a personal life!)

 

The Verdict: No one was offended! He expressed his desire to hang together for the evening as friends. He requested payment for the 8 PM appointment, ONLY IF we carried through with the original plans for that hour. (You see, we had originally arranged a complicated scenerio where the hour would be spent activating a group scene at my resort by visiting the Jacuzzi, leaving my blinds and door open, etc., etc. It also included some other specific requests by me) If we just hung out alone, he was NOT expecting payment.

 

We have corresponded several times by email since our time in Palm Springs. We have also talked on the phone. And he and his friend are booking Alaska with us in June.

 

For the skeptics, join us on Northwest Airlines out of Minn, on June 21st. It is the afternoon flight. Just wear your Hooboy T-shirt so I know who you are! (I seriously have given consideration to heading a wilderness excursion to Alaska for interested members on this site)

 

A couple closing notes:

 

Franco - I would love to have a deep discussion with you someday on how relativism and emotivism are eroding the moral fiber of our society.

 

Judge Trixie-Your response was right on the money as far as I'm concerned!

 

msclonly...you get an A+...I graded on a curve..Congrats

 

Finally, despite what anyone may think of me, I'll always enjoy the complete freedom of being who I really am. At 9 AM that day, I was "myself". ..the real me. I was not going to be someone's client until 8 PM. And so, I have no regrets for being only myself...had I instead attemted to be the 8PM client...all these other conversations and the ensuing friendship may not have happened...I'm convinced of that. So, don't expect any remorse or apology anytime soon from me for simply being myself that day. I'll enjoy the freedom of being myself without the feelings of the guilt you would prefer I wear. I fought for those freedoms, as many of us did, during the Gulf War in Kuwait...so don't even think I would dream of being anyone different on any day...least of all, someones client at a time when I am not! (Let's all sing a verse of "God Bless America!)

 

Have a great and healthy New Year. By the end of 2004, may we all be better people because we read Hooboy every day and because we often do for those less fortunate than ourselves.

 

Mikel

[Guest Mikel]

I guess the best I could hope for from this Jury would be a mistrial based on a hung Jury! I took a real tongue lashing from the clear majority, but thank God a few members of this esteemed Jury weren't so quick to convict! An innocent man would have been dragged off to the dungeons of the Hooboy Castle! Anyways, thanks to all of you for "fulfillling your civil duty" and sitting on this prestigous Jury. I won't call on you for another 7 years.

 

I'm not at all offended by those who entirely castigated me as contriving this whole scenerio. Actually, I'm quite complimented and only wish I was as creatively imaginative as you accuse me of being. Nonetheless, it is all true. Sorry, Huey, if that disappoints you! To the cynics and skeptics, don't bother reading on because you'll only find the "verdict" more incredulous!

 

That is not to say that "entertainment" was not part of the purpose of the original post. Reality can be very entertaining...thus a multi-billion dollar industry in "Reality TV". Please note that I did not post the original as a "question" seeking advice, but merely posted it as "General".

 

Here are some details the prosecutors wouldn't allow to be admitted in the trial!

 

On the morning of my last full day in Palm Springs, I visited another resort with a day pass. I arrived early, at 9 AM to secure a tan before departing the next day. Not many people are up at that hour at these resorts...also, the "prime space" to catch the rays poolside is rather limited. Thus, I recline in a chair next to one of the few who is also sunning at this ungodly, early hour. This person turns out to be the escort I'm scheduled to meet at 8PM.

 

We engage in conversation. I mention I had been to Joshua Tree National Monument. That leads to extensive conversation on our camping adventures to various National Parks. We both turn out to be avid wilderness campers. I mention that I have camped Denali Park (Mt. McKinley - highest peak in N. America @ 20, 000 ft) and Katmai National Park (Brooks Falls with all the Grizzlies eating Salmon as they jump up the falls attemting to spawn), both in Alaska, on seven different occassions. I mention my travel plans with friends to these destinations June 21 - July 5, 2004. (For those who have traveled to Alaska, you know it is NOT too early to be booked, especially with the lottery systems for these parks.) He has ALWAYS wanted to wilderness camp in Alaska, he despises the thought of Cruise Ships to Alaska as much as I do. He is also an avid photographer as I am (for a hobby) and knows wilderness camping in Alaska is unparralled for wildlife photo ops. He has also wanted to see the "Land of the Midnight Sun" and June 21st is the best time to see Alaska for this reason! Bottom line, I invite him ( and a friend of his that he has mentioned) to join me and my friends...as we own a lot of the right gear which is extremely expensive and critical. He spends time on his cell discussing all of this with his friend while increasingly getting enthused at the prospect of his dream trip to Alaska finally becoming a reality.

 

Many other common interests (ie...we are bothh seeing the "Kiss My Brass" tour of Bette Midler) helped us to really bond. By the time we finished dinner, we had been conversing for nearly 12 hours. Thus, when I played that notorious voice message for him, I thought I knew him well enough to predict his response...a hearty laugh. I was right! He laughed heartily!! (He did add, "Your not going to review me as a "no show". are you?" To which I laughed and reminded him he was NOT a "no show" because he cancelled. My opinion..he had the right to cancel as much as he had the right to a personal life!)

 

The Verdict: No one was offended! He expressed his desire to hang together for the evening as friends. He requested payment for the 8 PM appointment, ONLY IF we carried through with the original plans for that hour. (You see, we had originally arranged a complicated scenerio where the hour would be spent activating a group scene at my resort by visiting the Jacuzzi, leaving my blinds and door open, etc., etc. It also included some other specific requests by me) If we just hung out alone, he was NOT expecting payment.

 

We have corresponded several times by email since our time in Palm Springs. We have also talked on the phone. And he and his friend are booking Alaska with us in June.

 

For the skeptics, join us on Northwest Airlines out of Minn, on June 21st. It is the afternoon flight. Just wear your Hooboy T-shirt so I know who you are! (I seriously have given consideration to heading a wilderness excursion to Alaska for interested members on this site)

 

A couple closing notes:

 

Franco - I would love to have a deep discussion with you someday on how relativism and emotivism are eroding the moral fiber of our society.

 

Judge Trixie-Your response was right on the money as far as I'm concerned!

 

msclonly...you get an A+...I graded on a curve..Congrats

 

Finally, despite what anyone may think of me, I'll always enjoy the complete freedom of being who I really am. At 9 AM that day, I was "myself". ..the real me. I was not going to be someone's client until 8 PM. And so, I have no regrets for being only myself...had I instead attemted to be the 8PM client...all these other conversations and the ensuing friendship may not have happened...I'm convinced of that. So, don't expect any remorse or apology anytime soon from me for simply being myself that day. I'll enjoy the freedom of being myself without the feelings of the guilt you would prefer I wear. I fought for those freedoms, as many of us did, during the Gulf War in Kuwait...so don't even think I would dream of being anyone different on any day...least of all, someones client at a time when I am not! (Let's all sing a verse of "God Bless America!)

 

Have a great and healthy New Year. By the end of 2004, may we all be better people because we read Hooboy every day and because we often do for those less fortunate than ourselves.

 

Mikel

[Donnie]

RE:

 

I'm sure the fact that you own "a lot of the right gear which is extremely expensive and critical" had nothing to do with his decision to book the trip with you! He just really likes you for who you are...:+

[Donnie]

RE:

 

I'm sure the fact that you own "a lot of the right gear which is extremely expensive and critical" had nothing to do with his decision to book the trip with you! He just really likes you for who you are...:+

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

Thanks Donnie!

 

Don't want anyone to think we are running off to Vermont or Tornto to "tie the knot". We just turned out to be compatible in many ways.

 

You have a great New Year. On Dec. 31st, 2004...I wanna hear you had your best year ever! Make it that way for yourself...and if you need someone to teach you how (I suspect you don't) it will never happen. It just can't be taught!

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

Thanks Donnie!

 

Don't want anyone to think we are running off to Vermont or Tornto to "tie the knot". We just turned out to be compatible in many ways.

 

You have a great New Year. On Dec. 31st, 2004...I wanna hear you had your best year ever! Make it that way for yourself...and if you need someone to teach you how (I suspect you don't) it will never happen. It just can't be taught!

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Peak Tanning Hours

 

Human nature and individuality being what they are, it is our unique differences that make us interesting to one another. This is also what sparks the appeal that brings two people together. Nonetheless, human nature is also capable of reflecting a lack of consideration and empathy between two strangers or two friends. One of the attractions, for me, of Buddism is best summed up by a quote from the Dali Lama: Kindness only stands to reason.

 

I will also be the first to admit that however much I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt to others, however much I might extend courtesy and consideration to others, and however much I might try to express trust, faith, and good will to others, I sometimes fail.

 

That is also human nature.

 

But what may ameliorate any failure on my part is how I convey my regret at my action by both my subsequent words and deeds.

 

While you should not expect me in the nothern mid-west anytime soon, should you find yourself again in Southern California, I would certainly welcome the opportunity to discuss these matters with you while we both work on our tans.

 

Be well.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Peak Tanning Hours

 

Human nature and individuality being what they are, it is our unique differences that make us interesting to one another. This is also what sparks the appeal that brings two people together. Nonetheless, human nature is also capable of reflecting a lack of consideration and empathy between two strangers or two friends. One of the attractions, for me, of Buddism is best summed up by a quote from the Dali Lama: Kindness only stands to reason.

 

I will also be the first to admit that however much I believe in giving the benefit of the doubt to others, however much I might extend courtesy and consideration to others, and however much I might try to express trust, faith, and good will to others, I sometimes fail.

 

That is also human nature.

 

But what may ameliorate any failure on my part is how I convey my regret at my action by both my subsequent words and deeds.

 

While you should not expect me in the nothern mid-west anytime soon, should you find yourself again in Southern California, I would certainly welcome the opportunity to discuss these matters with you while we both work on our tans.

 

Be well.

[Guest jeffOH]

RE:

 

>Finally, despite what anyone may think of me, I'll always

>enjoy the complete freedom of being who I really am. At 9 AM

>that day, I was "myself". ..the real me. I was not going to

>be someone's client until 8 PM. And so, I have no regrets for

>being only myself...had I instead attempted to be the 8PM

>client...all these other conversations and the ensuing

>friendship may not have happened...I'm convinced of that.

 

Sorry Mikel, you've wrapped this up in as pretty a package as possible, but this "judge" still thinks you were being deceptive by not immediately telling this escort who you were. You have NO idea how things would have turned out had you not lied by omission from the very beginning. Once again, WHY did you not mention who you were when you first started conversing with this escort??

 

 

>So,

>don't expect any remorse or apology anytime soon from me for

>simply being myself that day. I'll enjoy the freedom of being

>myself without the feelings of the guilt you would prefer I

>wear. I fought for those freedoms, as many of us did, during

>the Gulf War in Kuwait...so don't even think I would dream of

>being anyone different on any day...least of all, someones

>client at a time when I am not!

 

What a convoluted pile of poo! You can try and justify your behavior any way you want. I still wouldn't want someone like you as a client!

 

JEFF

jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest jeffOH]

RE:

 

>Finally, despite what anyone may think of me, I'll always

>enjoy the complete freedom of being who I really am. At 9 AM

>that day, I was "myself". ..the real me. I was not going to

>be someone's client until 8 PM. And so, I have no regrets for

>being only myself...had I instead attempted to be the 8PM

>client...all these other conversations and the ensuing

>friendship may not have happened...I'm convinced of that.

 

Sorry Mikel, you've wrapped this up in as pretty a package as possible, but this "judge" still thinks you were being deceptive by not immediately telling this escort who you were. You have NO idea how things would have turned out had you not lied by omission from the very beginning. Once again, WHY did you not mention who you were when you first started conversing with this escort??

 

 

>So,

>don't expect any remorse or apology anytime soon from me for

>simply being myself that day. I'll enjoy the freedom of being

>myself without the feelings of the guilt you would prefer I

>wear. I fought for those freedoms, as many of us did, during

>the Gulf War in Kuwait...so don't even think I would dream of

>being anyone different on any day...least of all, someones

>client at a time when I am not!

 

What a convoluted pile of poo! You can try and justify your behavior any way you want. I still wouldn't want someone like you as a client!

 

JEFF

jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

You are missing my point. I DID tell him who I was...exactly who I was...when we met. He got to know the real me...not my sexual fantasy.

 

But you have your life to live and I have my life to live...and thank the good Lord you don't have to live mine and I don't have to live yours. You can live yours exactly the way you want...freely! I'll hopefully live mine just as nobly.

 

Now, if by telling me that you are glad I am not your client, you are implying that I should never seek your services as an escort...I'll certainly honor your request. You will never hear from me. Otherwise, I might just call upon you someday. (I probably will!) I honestly have nothing against you for differing with me on this one. Cognitive dissonance is a good thing when accompanied with a measure of civility...it stretches our thinking process. All that is important to me in this case is that the "escort" and I are looking forward to an Alaskan adventure this summer and we are both happy each of us "behaved" as we did in Palm Springs. If the world wants to hate us for that and condemn us for that, what power have we to stop them from doing so? We have no power to do so. So, to try, would only be a waste of energy.

 

If you are not restricting me from soliciting your services, and I do decide to seek your services, should I introduce myself as "Mikel" or just go by my "real" name?

 

If allowed, I'll be talking to you.

 

Thanks at least for the time invested in your response. Have a happy and healthy New Year!

 

Mikel

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

You are missing my point. I DID tell him who I was...exactly who I was...when we met. He got to know the real me...not my sexual fantasy.

 

But you have your life to live and I have my life to live...and thank the good Lord you don't have to live mine and I don't have to live yours. You can live yours exactly the way you want...freely! I'll hopefully live mine just as nobly.

 

Now, if by telling me that you are glad I am not your client, you are implying that I should never seek your services as an escort...I'll certainly honor your request. You will never hear from me. Otherwise, I might just call upon you someday. (I probably will!) I honestly have nothing against you for differing with me on this one. Cognitive dissonance is a good thing when accompanied with a measure of civility...it stretches our thinking process. All that is important to me in this case is that the "escort" and I are looking forward to an Alaskan adventure this summer and we are both happy each of us "behaved" as we did in Palm Springs. If the world wants to hate us for that and condemn us for that, what power have we to stop them from doing so? We have no power to do so. So, to try, would only be a waste of energy.

 

If you are not restricting me from soliciting your services, and I do decide to seek your services, should I introduce myself as "Mikel" or just go by my "real" name?

 

If allowed, I'll be talking to you.

 

Thanks at least for the time invested in your response. Have a happy and healthy New Year!

 

Mikel

[Guest Tristan]

RE:

 

I have always had this strange notion that in America you are innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way. I did not post a reply to Mikel's original thread, but support his new Post and his sentiments. I feel that in Hooville, there is a tendency to find people guilty without sufficient grounds. I don't know why that is. Is it a random function of who happens to see a post and feels like responding to it, or is there a general tendency to criticize members for sport? I've noticed that some of the most vocal and best known members seem to get support no matter what they say.

 

On the other hand, if you're not a member of the "higher echelon club," you take a much greater risk by posting a controversial message. That could tend to discourage those of us in the lower echelon not to post a question or general message lest we get bitten by it. This especially holds true for reviews of escorts, which is especially dangerous unless the escort stood you up, refused to play, or took the money and ran.

 

I was amazed when some months ago a well known poster with lots of friends on this site found it necessary to post a message asking opinions as to whether he should review an escort with whom he had a bad experience. There's something wrong if a regular couldn't simply go ahead and write the review. Well if a well respected member found it necessary to in a sense "get the approval" of other members to write the post, just think how much more reluctant a lesser known member will be in writing a review.

 

How many reviews have not been written out of fear of people not believing the story, or of retribution? We don't know. But we do know we all lose. I'm not saying that criticism is unacceptable. I'm merely saying that we should all try to be more open minded to what people post even if the story sounds out of the ordinary and is, therefore, more difficult to accept. Let's foster an environment in which people feel free to post messages. Then we will all benefit.

[Guest Tristan]

RE:

 

I have always had this strange notion that in America you are innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work that way. I did not post a reply to Mikel's original thread, but support his new Post and his sentiments. I feel that in Hooville, there is a tendency to find people guilty without sufficient grounds. I don't know why that is. Is it a random function of who happens to see a post and feels like responding to it, or is there a general tendency to criticize members for sport? I've noticed that some of the most vocal and best known members seem to get support no matter what they say.

 

On the other hand, if you're not a member of the "higher echelon club," you take a much greater risk by posting a controversial message. That could tend to discourage those of us in the lower echelon not to post a question or general message lest we get bitten by it. This especially holds true for reviews of escorts, which is especially dangerous unless the escort stood you up, refused to play, or took the money and ran.

 

I was amazed when some months ago a well known poster with lots of friends on this site found it necessary to post a message asking opinions as to whether he should review an escort with whom he had a bad experience. There's something wrong if a regular couldn't simply go ahead and write the review. Well if a well respected member found it necessary to in a sense "get the approval" of other members to write the post, just think how much more reluctant a lesser known member will be in writing a review.

 

How many reviews have not been written out of fear of people not believing the story, or of retribution? We don't know. But we do know we all lose. I'm not saying that criticism is unacceptable. I'm merely saying that we should all try to be more open minded to what people post even if the story sounds out of the ordinary and is, therefore, more difficult to accept. Let's foster an environment in which people feel free to post messages. Then we will all benefit.

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE:

 

So miss thing,you were just being yourself huh?Well "yourself"must be a deceitful little self satisfied schmuck.And a veteren yet?Well raise that flag and see who salutes-you self centered shmuck.

Other than that I am sure you are a perfectly nice man who will get everything he deserves in this life.

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

Thanks for he support!

And I don't think Hooboy wants us to be afraid of him!

Mikel

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

Well, I asked for your opinion...and I got it! So, I have no complaints. I fought for your right to say what you please! You probably fought for my rights, too.

 

I'll try to be less self-centered in '04!

[Doug69]

RE:

 

>I have always had this strange notion that in America you are

>innocent until proven guilty.

 

Not when it comes to this site. Here, there's a slightly different rule in place: "the escort is always innocent - and pure - and worthy of worship and admiration."

 

There's another, similar rule in play here: "He who speaks ill of an escort is the Devil" - an odd rule for a website ostensibly devoted to the discussion and review, rather than the glorification and worship, of escorts.

 

>On the other hand, if you're not a member of the "higher

>echelon club," you take a much greater risk by posting a

>controversial message. That could tend to discourage those of

>us in the lower echelon not to post a question or general

>message lest we get bitten by it. This especially holds true

>for reviews of escorts, which is especially dangerous unless

>the escort stood you up, refused to play, or took the money

>and ran.

 

Your whole post is excellent, and this thread is an outstanding example of what you describe.

 

The original poster described a situation where the escort gave his word that he would meet a client at a certain time, and then just cancelled on a whim because something better (a possible fuck) came up.

 

Now you would think that on this site - which, remember, is devoted to reviewing the conduct of escorts -- that everyone would agree that it's dishonorable and bad for an escort to make an appointment with a client and then just cancel (on the same day) because he felt like it.

 

And yet, not only did that conduct not bother the vast majority of posters here, most of them - the escorts and their stock, blindly adulating worshippers - were completely vicious in attacking the client whose appointment was cancelled, and spoke of him as though he were worse than a child molester all because he played a little practical joke on the escort after the escort disgracefully cancelled the appointment he made (in the hope of getting fucked).

 

And yes, you are also right that it is beyond nauseating how these old escort-worshippers and their escort-masters set themselves up as some sort of Council of Wise Elders, where they come here and decree who is sufficiently kind and deferential to the escorts and who is not.

 

The funny thing is - all their ethical posturing and moralizing and pretensious lecturing is based on nothing other than their desire to get their cocks hard by ingratiating themselves to prostitutes.

 

So I would suggest that you write whatever the fuck you want, and post the reviews you want to post, and not give a fuck if the cluck their lips with disapproval, and just let them sputter in their pompous, prostitute-worshipping bile.

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

One of your best ever posts! Whether one agrees or disagrees...well stated! Keep it up in 2004!! You're gonna be a power to be reckoned with!!

[Guest YR]

RE:

 

After reading the original post and all the responses, and then this post, I totally agree that the person one might meet in a casual, relaxed atmosphere could be totally different than the person they might meet under "arranged" circumstances.

 

While I, at first, sided with those that thought your actions were dishonorable, I now find myself agreeing with your ultimate scenario. There have been many times that I have met someone on a "casual/relaxed" basis where we have hit it off, and, whether they remembered it or not, I have met them under a more scripted or arranged encounter and things just didn't seem to click whatsoever.

 

Congratulations on your "chance encounter" and best wishes for the New Year.

 

Bill

[Guest jeffOH]

RE:

 

>You are missing my point.

 

No, I understand your "point" perfectly!

 

>I DID tell him who I was...exactly

>who I was...when we met.

 

You did NOT tell him you were to be a client of his later that day. My idea of "EXACTLY who you were" would have included that information.

 

Once again, simple question, WHY DID YOU PURPOSELY OMIT THAT INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF when you first met??

 

>Now, if by telling me that you are glad I am not your client,

>you are implying that I should never seek your services as an

>escort...I'll certainly honor your request.

 

Actually I said that I would NOT want someone like you as a client. I'm not "implying" anything.

 

>If you are not restricting me from soliciting your services,

>and I do decide to seek your services, should I introduce

>myself as "Mikel" or just go by my "real" name?

 

Oh, but I am "restricting" you from soliciting my services. Unless of course you continue to use deception to try to set up an appt. with me, not much I can do about that. A simple intro of, Hi, I'm Mikel will suffice. I'll remember EXACTLY who you are.

 

>If allowed, I'll be talking to you.

 

Please don't bother me with your games. I don't play games with my clients and I expect the same in return.

 

Happy New Year!

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[Guest Mikel]

RE:

 

Hey, Thanks a lot, Bill. Maybe I won't get the "death penalty" and folks like you will release me on probation!

 

The "escort" and I are convinced our relationship would have gone a different direction had we been "escort/client" from the onset. So, if we are convinced...why even the need to convince anyone else??

 

At any rate...there is a need to make 2004 a good year. Go do your part and I'll do mine.

[Guest jeffOH]

RE:

 

>The "escort" and I are convinced our relationship would have

>gone a different direction had we been "escort/client" from

>the onset. So, if we are convinced...why even the need to

>convince anyone else??

 

So why the fuck did you come on here to ask us to be, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, "JUDGE AND JURY" if you are both "convinced" about the whole thing? Huh? Why?

 

JEFF

jeff4men@hotmail.com

[Guest Mikel]

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Like I said, I asked for your opinions...and appreciate them...whether or not I agree with them. But the original post was not designated as a "question' but as "General". So why post...because I love this site and love all the personalities that participate on this site. It is affordable entertainment...and I more often than not learn something very valuable in the process. I love this site!

 

I answered your question. Now, will you answer mine? Can I call on you for your escort services or not?

[Guest Mikel]

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Oops! Sorry Jeff. Missed that previous response where you did answer my question. Okay...I promise, if I call I'll just say, "This is Mikel".

 

You can take it from there any direction you want. Talk to you in the New Year...and maybe we'll talk about a different topic...something we have more similar views about.

 

Best Regards.