Is there a Doctor in the House?

[Guest cafekid]

Recently the following meds fell out of an escorts bag in front of me: trimox, oxandrin, alprazolam and proscar. Not to be paranoid, but does anyone know if these are part of an Aids treatment cocktail? And also, what does "crystal meth?" look like, and how can you recognize if someone is on it?

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Fell

 

I take it these medicine bottles all fell out of his bag at eye level, upright, and lined up so that you could easily and clearly read the small print on those tiny labels? All this while the escort was bound and gagged on the bed and thus you, out of a deep sense of courtesy and good manners, felt behooved to pick them up and replace them in his bag, but unfortunately, it was unavoidable, as these bottles were at eye level, upright and lined up, to take a good look and read them?

 

None of these medications are anti-HIV drugs. Alprazolam, for example, is the generic form of Xanax, which is prescribed for a number of approved FDA uses, such as stress and anxiety. It is a member of the valium family of drugs and some individuals take it "off label" to sleep.

 

However, your question is somewhat confused. Medications which are prescribed for the treatment of HIV are anti-retrovirals. The fact that no anti-retrovirals "feel" out of this escort's bag does not mean he might not have a prescription for them or might simply mean they were in a different bag.

 

Once again, as any number of people on this site have suggested, if you are concerned about the HIV status of your sexual partners - escorts or otherwise - you should (a) ask them and (b) if you feel you cannot trust either your partner or his response, you should educate yourself and give serious and intelligent thought to what risks you might and might not be willing to undertake, and proceed accordingly.

 

Finally, in the future, if you or anyone else wanted to know what a medication was that "accidentally" fell out of someone's bag or that you inadvertently and unintentially viewed when someone's medicine cabinent door flew open while you were in the bathroom doing something, save yourself the embarrassment and simply GOOGLE the names of the medications or ask your local pharmacist.

[Guest msclonly]

RE: Fell

 

I suspect, that he is over sexed and takes the Xanax to calm down and not alarm the clients!

[Guest Mikel]

RE: Fell

 

Comprehensive, all-encompassing answer, Franco. Much more than was requested, but more valuable than that information which was originally sought.

[Guest cafekid]

RE: Google?

 

I don't understand your outrage. Who cares where or how they fell out? And why should I or anyone else google instead of posting any question here? This would become an even more dull site if we all googled our questions rather than posting them. Also, what makes you so sure I did not google before posting here? What if I found that some of those drugs are prescribed to avoid aids-wasting and are covered by state-run aids drug assistance programs, and so sought further amplification from our arm-chair sexperts here? Finally, any more idignant responses to my other question about chrystal meth?

[jack]

RE: Google the Doctor

 

I concur with cafekid: he was sharing with us a question of general interest to people here. The attitude of Franco's response was presumtive, condescending, and unnecessarily abrasive. Let's be nice with each other.

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: Google the Doctor

 

I was thinking of responding along the same lines as Franco-and Cafe kids responding over Franco's"outrage(baby-you should see him when he is really upset-you want outrage)The post seems "funny"to start with.

And I google the names of drugs I am unfamilliar with often-and get much more reliable info than "fishing"on an a site about male hookers.

[Doug69]

RE: Google?

 

>I don't understand your outrage.

 

Cafekid - Whenever someone expressses outrage at a question being asked, it's almost always the case that the person feels threatened by the question - that the question either implicitly condemns what they do or is likely to trigger the uncovering of information which they find incriminating of their own behavior.

 

Accordingly, I don't think it's that difficult to figure out why your question provoked the condescending, puffed-up, totally unjustified (but revealing and quite characteristic) anger on the part of the person who responded so bitch-ily and snot-ily to your legitimate inquiries.

 

>Finally, any

>more idignant responses to my other question about chrystal

>meth?

 

Crystal is, as its street name implies, usually found in crystallized form - pretty little opaque, white crystals - which can be and often are crushed by the user into a more powdered form, which then resembles cocaine or baby powder. Those who ingest crystal by smoking it generally prefer to preserve it in its crytallized form, while those who greedily snort it up their nostrils tend to crush it. Still others inject it intraveneously, right into their bloodstream.

 

Because crystal is an amphetimine, its users are generally recognizable by "sped-up" behavior - very fast talking, endless chatter, chewing on their gums, grinding their teeth, etc. - and sexually, are usually characterized by a shockingly voracious sexual appetite - twitchy hole waiving around in the air, begging for cock for 10 hour periods, foregoing food and water for amazingly unhealthy durations of time, etc.

 

As you correctly inferred, xanyx (and the generic form of it which you found) are very frequently used by crystal users to come down off the drug, as the anti-anxiety properties xanyx are the ideal antidote for the jarring edginess of crystal.

 

Finally, I apologize on behalf of the Board for the very rude and hostile attack you received as a result of your post. As you will see, there are many "negative" posters on this Board, and I sincerely hope that their propensity to engage in such unwarranted, hateful attacks won't deter you from making further contributions to this forum.

[guyinsf]

RE: Google?

 

It isn't polite to snoop into other people's business. Just because you are hiring someone to have sex with him doesn't mean you have the right to look through his things to learn more about him. I agree with Franco: If you are concerned about the HIV status of someone you want to have sex with, ask him. And make sure that you are making your choices about how you have sex based on the KNOWLEDGE that you might be having sex with someone who is HIV Positive, even if that person believes he is HIV Negative.

 

As to why to Google, as someone else has already indicated you are going to get better information for a question like this by doing a search rather than posting here. All of the pharmaceutical companies have a presence on the Internet and you can read the official product descriptions for the medications in question.

 

What did I learn the past 5 minutes by Googling these meds? One treats anxiety. Another is an antibiotic in the penicillin class of drugs. Another helps promote weight gain. Another deals with prostate problems. At this point I could make wild speculations as to the meaning of someone taking all four of these meds at once, but they would simply be wild speculations. What is clear is that none of these medications is an antiretroviral, so you have little basis to suspect that these meds are to treat symptoms related to HIV infection unless you snoop around in his things more and discover that he is also taking some other pills.

 

As for your question about crystal meth, you can look at the following website for a few pictures and some additional information. I presume that the guy exhibited some strange behavior for you to speculate that he was using crystal? If so then it seems like not hiring him because you did not like his behavior makes more sense than being able to attribute his behavior to his abuse of meth.

 

http://www.streetdrugs.org/methamphetamine.htm

 

>I don't understand your outrage. Who cares where or how they

>fell out? And why should I or anyone else google instead of

>posting any question here? This would become an even more

>dull site if we all googled our questions rather than posting

>them. Also, what makes you so sure I did not google before

>posting here? What if I found that some of those drugs are

>prescribed to avoid aids-wasting and are covered by state-run

>aids drug assistance programs, and so sought further

>amplification from our arm-chair sexperts here? Finally, any

>more idignant responses to my other question about chrystal

>meth?

[Doug69]

RE: Google?

 

>It isn't polite to snoop into other people's business. Just

>because you are hiring someone to have sex with him doesn't

>mean you have the right to look through his things to learn

>more about him.

 

You just completely made this up. Cafekid didn't say he snooped through anything, and he certainly didn't say that he looked through the escort's things in order to find out anything about him. To the contrary, he said that the bottles of pills fell out of the escort's bag and he saw them. Then he came here and asked if anyone had information about the pills and why someone might take them.

 

And in response, he's been treated like he committed some awful crime and is somehow guilty of all sorts of Breaches of Escort Rules. People here - as in, certain escorts and their clients - seem awfully sensitive to questions about drug use and AIDS - to the point where they attack anyone who asks about those topics. Gee, I wonder why that might be.

 

>As to why to Google, as someone else has already indicated you

>are going to get better information for a question like this

>by doing a search rather than posting here. All of the

>pharmaceutical companies have a presence on the Internet and

>you can read the official product descriptions for the

>medications in question.

 

It is just ridiculous to suggest that Cafekid did something wrong by asking this question here instead of Google-ing the information. As he made clear, Cafekid was not merely asking about the properties of the drugs in question and seeking to know what their formal, legal uses are - things he certanily could find out by Google-ing the names of the drugs.

 

Rather, he was seeking much more escort-specific information - namely, he wanted to know what this COMBINATION of drugs in the possession of an escort likely revealed about the escort's mental and physical health and/or the likelihood that the escort is a crystal user.

 

It is probably quite difficult to find out THAT information by simply Google-ing the drug names. If someone wanted that information, this forum is exactly the place where it would make sense to come and seek it. That's exactly what he did. The outrage which has followed is as bizarre as it is revealing.

[Barry]

RE: Google?

 

>I don't understand your outrage. Who cares where or how they

>fell out?

 

Where or how is of less concern than how you managed to read the contents. The bottles all fell and stuck or rolled perfectly with the small print drug name clearly visible to you without really looking for it? Is that what happened?

 

>This would become an even more

>dull site if we all googled our questions rather than posting

>them.

 

So this is all about livening up the MC?

 

>What if I found that some of those drugs are

>prescribed to avoid aids-wasting

 

"some"?

 

>and are covered by state-run aids drug assistance programs

 

Well since many of these programs not only cover drugs directly related to HIV but also cover treatment drugs for other conditions which may or may not be related to HIV (such as antibiotics), what exactly is your point?

 

>and so sought further

>amplification from our arm-chair sexperts here?

 

So you wanted "amplification", not information? What exactly did you want amplified? If it's medical information you sought, why go to "arm-chair sexperts" for it?

 

Barry

[Doug69]

RE: Google?

 

>Where or how is of less concern than how you managed to read

>the contents.

 

Why is it "of concern" to you how he managed to read the contents? And why, in response to the questions that he had, are you refusing to answer them, instead opting to interrogate him as though he's some sort of criminal or liar.

 

That's not a very welcoming or hospitable posture to present to a newcomer to the Board, is it? How many new posters do you think are likely to stick around if, in response to perfectly legitimate questions they post, they are treated with such disdain by the forum's Management?

 

>So this is all about livening up the MC?

 

We all know how much you hate that. Your riveting posts make clear that, to you, there's no worse sin than "livening up the MC." I suppose that's why you never do it.

[Guest cafekid]

RE: Google?

 

>Where or how is of less concern than how you managed to read

>the contents. The bottles all fell and stuck or rolled

>perfectly with the small print drug name clearly visible to

>you without really looking for it? Is that what happened?

 

And would where or how I came to that knowledge have a material affect on the substance of your response to the questions I posed?

 

>Well since many of these programs not only cover drugs

>directly related to HIV but also cover treatment drugs for

>other conditions which may or may not be related to HIV (such

>as antibiotics), what exactly is your point?

 

Remember, in the initial post, I posed two neutral questions. I was not making a point, but seeking information.

 

>So you wanted "amplification", not information? What exactly

>did you want amplified? If it's medical information you

>sought, why go to "arm-chair sexperts" for it?

 

What I wanted was information that would amplify what I already found on google, as Doug correctly identified: (a) are these drugs used as part of an Aids treatment regimen; and (b) what are the their links if any to crystal meth use or abuse? Bonus question: is crystal meth sometimes called a "purple pill"?

[Barry]

RE: Google?

 

>>Where or how is of less concern than how you managed to

>read

>>the contents.

>

>Why is it "of concern" to you how he managed to read the

>contents? Privacy [/font color] And why, in response to the questions that he had,

>are you refusing to answer them, I refused? The post I responded to made it apparent to me he had done his research thus answering was unnecessary. If you insist, No, they are not part of an HIV cocktail. I really shouldn't be answering this because I am not qualified as an arm chair sexpert. [/font color]instead opting to interrogate

>him as though he's some sort of criminal or liar. Why are his "perfectly legitimate questions" and mine are an interrogation?" [/font color]

>

>That's not a very welcoming or hospitable posture to present

>to a newcomer to the Board, is it? How many new posters do

>you think are likely to stick around if, in response to

>perfectly legitimate questions they post,I wasn't responding to "perfectly legitimate questions"[/font color] they are >treated with such disdain by the forum's Management?I'm not "Management". [/font color]

>

>>So this is all about livening up the MC?

>

>We all know how much you hate that. I do? Your crystal ball working again? [/font color] Your riveting posts make

>clear that, to you, there's no worse sin than "livening up the

>MC." Clear to you, eh? And where again did you buy that crystal ball? [/font color] I suppose that's why you never do it.

Actually I'm just trying to avoid verbosity.[/font color]

 

Barry

[+ Lucky]

RE: Google?

 

Good answer, Barry. If I saw that many bottles at once I don't think I could remember all of their names without writing them down. And if I was concerned about the escort having them, I would have asked him directly what they were for.

 

Proscar (finesteride) is also used to treat hair loss. It can totally kill your sex drive, so the escort in question could be unemployed soon!

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: Google the Doctor

 

>I concur with cafekid: he was sharing with us a question of

>general interest to people here. The attitude of Franco's

>response was presumtive, condescending, and unnecessarily

>abrasive. Let's be nice with each other.

 

I also agree with cafekid. But he should be advised that Franco's pompus response was to be expected. It might just be that all washed-up, over-the-hill escorts are overly sensitive to anyone seeing what they carry in their little bag. And as for asking the escort if they are HIV+ - fat lot of good that will do them without a polygraph machine!

[Guy Fawkes]

Daddy Sez: "Guys, Do you need to read the messages about Trolls again?". I'm starting to get enough complaints, that I considering forcing some of you to take a vacation.