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[Guy Fawkes]

Given the level of indignant rhetoric that's floating around, its really amazing to me that a few of you are missing the point.

 

Case in point: Doug69 and I rarely agree on anything, but he's still here. In the last two weeks he's generated more alerts than any other user, but he's still here. Have you ever wondered why? If you look at his posts, you'll find that almost without exception he attacks the issue, not the person. He has a rather amazing talent to hammer in a point without resorting to name calling. I respect that in a person immensely even when they piss me off.

 

Doug69 is not the only example, I can name four other people that are in the same category. The fact that they are annoying as hell to me personally, is of no consequence. As long as they stay within the guidelines, they are welcome.

 

I gave an example privately not long ago and with some rearrangement and expansion, I'll present it here:

1) "Frank, you ignorant Slut!"

2) "Frank, I think your an ignorant Slut!"

3) "Frank, When you don't use a condom, your acting like an ignorant Slut!"

 

In the first case, if we notice it (of course, alerts cause us to notice it), we'll probably check to see if a pattern of abuse is forming. We tend to move or lock a thread that is becoming abusive. People that pop up on the radar multiple times get warned privately. If it's wide spread we'll warn people publicly.

 

In the 2nd case, it'll tend to go through because it's an opinion. But, we'll keep an eye on you and if you do it constantly we'll ask you to tone it down.

 

In the 3rd case, it'll go through 99% of the time because it's addressing an issue and an opinion. I personally don't like it, but I can live with it.

 

Vahawk used the 1st form repeatedly, often, and in spite of multiple warnings. He choose to ignore the warnings, and got a one week vacation as a result. If he were to attempt to post on this coming Saturday, the odds are fairly good that he'd be able to. But if he continues to be abusive, he'll go away again.

 

Consider that out of the thousands of people that are registered on the board, only three have been 86d permanently. In my opinion we have a fairly good track record.

 

In each of those three cases, they were allowed back in multiple times. In each of those three cases, it is easier to keep them out than it is to deal with the fallout that they create.

 

Daddy

[+ Lucky]

Thanks for the post, Mr. Daddy, sir. One thing that will help is for you to occasionally post something such as this that explains your reasoning. Even if we don't agree with it all of it,(e.g.: Doug69's level of goodwill) at least we feel we are part of a dialogue.

[Guy Fawkes]

Agreed. I'll try to do better.

 

The problem is that I was raised in the mid-west. It just ain't fitten to air our dirty laundry in public.

[FourAces]

Interesting read. Who were the 3 banned forever?

 

RT

[taylorky]

OK OK now just so i'm sure...as long as we don't rag on frank,everythings okay??:+

[+ deej]

Just don't give Frank's last name, and for SURE don't mention that he's a baseball player.

[Guy Fawkes]

Sorry, I changed the name from the SNL skit :7, you'll just have to search it out.

[AaronScottDC]

>Sorry, I changed the name from the SNL skit :7, you'll just

>have to search it out.

 

The ignorant slut's name was Jane. And, that line is still one of the funniest I have heard on SNL.

 

Aaron Scott DC

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[Guy Fawkes]

:7 Never Mind! :+

[Rick Munroe]

>"you ignorant Slut!"

 

Why are my ears ringing?

[woodlawn]

Rick, why are you posting something in this thread that has nothing to do with the topic? Don't you know that deej hates that? He just admonished me about it in another thread earlier this week. And he is certainly NOT the sort of hypocrite who would wink at behavior by someone he likes while criticizing someone he doesn't like for the exact same behavior. Right?

 

>We tend to move or lock a thread that is

>becoming abusive.

 

What exactly was "abusive" about the threads asking about VaHawk that were locked? The only "abuse" I noticed is that people in those threads expressed disagreement with your actions. Is that "abusive"? Apparently so.

 

 

>Consider that out of the thousands of people that are

>registered on the board, only three have been 86d permanently.

>In my opinion we have a fairly good track record.

 

I find that statement quite misleading. In the first place, only a small percentage of those "thousands of people" have actually posted here on more than a few occasions. It would be far more accurate to consider a couple of dozen regular posters than these phantom "thousands."

 

In the second place, in the case of the poster Ad rian Hooboy made it clear that the reason for throwing him out is that Hooboy did not like the political opinions he kept expressing. Stating that one is glad about the death of an Israeli astronaut because one does not like the policies of the Israeli government is certainly not a personal attack on any poster here. The truth is that Ad rian engaged in personal attacks no more frequently than many posters who are still posting.

[Guy Fawkes]

Ahhhh...Do you Really need us to detail the entire series of SLN skits for you to understand the humor of Rick's remark? We'll

just leave that one alone.

 

Hooboy and I've made it clear that the moderators only have to justify their actions to one person and one person only. You Sir, are not that person. You will never be that person.

 

Let's see, we have about 65 people that have been on the Message Center in the last hour and about 15 of those are logged in. It's

hard to imagine that your contention of a "couple of dozen" is accurate. Considering that only a handle of people have been so upset, it makes one wonder what the feeling of the majority are? Boredom perhaps?

 

But Hooboy gets to be the final Judge over who's here and who's not, doesn't he? After all, he's the one that signs the check, that keeps the message board on the air. I happen to support him in the decision about Ad rain, who has been and still is very offensive.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

Daddy has been more than generous with his explanations. This isn't UNFRIENDLY America On Line (aka AO smell). This is a FREE message center that relies on the donations and kindness of others. When you are in someone else's sandbox and they tell you don't pee in the sand then don't pee in the sand! But noooooo ... people have to pee in the sand and push limits. In the prolific words of my personal savior, the big J, "I'm The Boss Applesauce!"

 

Hoo, Daddy and their faithful watch dogs are the bosses here. Don't pee on their legs and tell them it's raining.

 

Once again, Hoo, Daddy and all the other special people ... thanks for keeping my therapy bills down and giving my neurotic and often immature behavior a place to be free.

 

VDN

http://www.nytix.com/TV_Shows/JudgeJudySheindlin/JudgeJudy_Pic2.jpg

[woodlawn]

>Ahhhh...Do you Really need us to detail the entire

>series of SLN skits for you to understand the humor of Rick's

>remark?

 

Nope. Unfortunately I am old enough to remember the skit he is referring to. Of course, the fact that he is also old enough to remember it makes me wonder how accurate his "stats" are. But my point that it has nothing to do with the subject of this thread remains valid. And so does my point that certain of your "moderators" have this habit of criticizing certain behavior when it's exhibited by some people but winking at it when it's exhibited by others.

 

>Hooboy and I've made it clear that the moderators only have to

>justify their actions to one person and one person only. You

>Sir, are not that person. You will never be that person.

 

I didn't really expect you or them to justify their actions. Anyone who remembers the many occasions on which deej has told people here that "We do whatever we want and it's none of your fucking business," or words to that effect, would have to be a hopeless optimist to expect any justification, and no one has ever accused me of optimism.

 

>Let's see, we have about 65 people that have been on the

>Message Center in the last hour and about 15 of those are

>logged in.

 

And how many have posted anything?

 

 

>It's

>hard to imagine that your contention of a "couple of dozen" is

>accurate.

 

See above.

 

 

>Considering that only a handle of people have been

>so upset, it makes one wonder what the feeling of the majority

>are? Boredom perhaps?

 

Since most people who have registered rarely if ever post, I guess we'll never know how the majority feels. But if you really feel the subject is boring or of interest to only a tiny handful of people then there was no real need for you to start this thread. So why did you do it? Your actions simply don't match your words.

 

>But Hooboy gets to be the final Judge over who's here and

>who's not, doesn't he? After all, he's the one that signs the

>check, that keeps the message board on the air. I happen to

>support him in the decision about Ad rain, who has been and

>still is very offensive.

 

Ad rian has said some extremely nasty things about Zionists, and since I happen to be a Zionist myself I suppose I am entitled to be as offended as anyone. But it remains true, as I said, that he very rarely engaged in personal attacks. And when you exclude him because you don't like his political views you simply validate the accusation made by his fellow Arabs that Americans have one set of rules for the people they like and another set for the people they don't.

 

You guys can certainly exclude anyone you wish. What you can't do, however, is pretend that you exclude people only for certain reasons when the truth is obviously otherwise. To get away with that you would have to restrict participation in this board to five-year-olds. Or to people who come from some country in which the tradition of one rule applying equally and consistently to everyone is not so ingrained as it is in America. There's a reason people keep objecting to your actions: you behave in a way that doesn't sit right with people raised in that tradition.

[LovesYng]

>http://www.nytix.com/TV_Shows/JudgeJudySheindlin/JudgeJudy_Pic2.jpg

 

Judge Judy should have the last word in this thread. I for one would not want to cross her }( I hope no one gets upset that I went against this thread ;-)

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Doug69]

>Case in point: Doug69 and I rarely agree on anything, but he's

>still here. In the last two weeks he's generated more alerts

>than any other user

 

Really? I got the MOST alerts over the last two weeks? I'm in First place! Do I win some sort of immunity challenge? Some veto power over the next 5 post deletions, edits and/or thread re-locations? I was so sick of second and third place - thank God that rule-breaking VaHawk finally got vaporized so that I could triumph!!

 

Who the fuck in their right mind sits on an Internet escort message board reading posts and then gets so upset and traumatized by what they're reading that they have to run and press an ALERT button and call on the authorities to help them? What are the people who engage in this behavior thinking?

 

Isn't this conduct more akin to a scared 90-year-old woman than adult males? I visited my grandmother in a nursing home 2 years ago, and all the little old ladies in their wheelchairs had wireless ALERT buttons on a string around their necks - they'd press the button whenever they got scared or alarmed by something, and the nurses would come running to help them. There were 2 or 3 women above the age of 90 who, in particular, were so scared and neurotic that they would press the button constantly, over the smallest and pettiest things.

 

Are these women posting on Hooboy? They didn't seem the type to hire gay male escorts. Or are some of the people on this Board indistinguishable in their behavior from those almost-dead, scared old ladies with dribble on their chin unable to remember their own names?

 

Who the fuck would ever be sufficiently upset by something they read on an Internet message Board to go run and press an ALTER button and beg for the "moderators" to come and remove what upsets them? Don't you have any dignity? LOL!! Should we have in-forum counselors to provide therapy for Post-Traumatic-Stress-Disorder when someone reads a post which so traumatizes them?

 

I've had way more posts written ABOUT me or TO me (that were not that nice) be deleted than posts written BY me have been deleted. I've been called every single name possible and had every single accusation made about me that exists - as have many others here - and I would NEVER even think to hit an ALERT button. Why the fuck would I care enough to do that?

 

Other than things which could affect a person's actual life (such as disclosure of a escort's name), anyone who reads VaHawk's posts - or anyone's posts here - and lets it affect them in some way substantial (including substantial enough to be motivated to call for HELP! via the Alert button) has some serious psychological problems. If what is read HERE has the ability to have that kind of impact on a person, how the fuck does such a person get through life? My guess is, they don't, which is why what they read here has such impact on them.

 

Anyway - congratulations to me on my great victory. I shouldn't be so analytical about the people to whom I owe my victory - to all of you with your nervous, scared, needy, sticky alert-ing fingers - THANK YOU! I couldn't have done it without you.

[LovesYng]

Thanks Doug, one of your best post ever Keep up the good work :7

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[+ Lucky]

Wow, Doug! You are the greatest! Really cool, dude.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>2 years ago, and all the little old ladies in their

>wheelchairs had wireless ALERT buttons on a string around

>their necks - they'd press the button whenever they got scared

>or alarmed by something, and the nurses would come running to

>help them.

 

http://seniorsafety.com/images/pendant2.jpg

 

>Are these women posting on Hooboy? They didn't seem the type

>to hire gay male escorts. Or are some of the people on this

>Board indistinguishable in their behavior from those

>almost-dead, scared old ladies with dribble on their chin

>unable to remember their own names?

 

ROFLMAO- THANK YOU DOUG

 

I know repeating parts of Doug's post adds NOTHING to the thread (but the visual I added is cute), HOWEVER, his use of sarcasm with a dash of comparison and contrast is MINT and it should be applauded. So far, this is the post of the year (unless someone discusses anal warts).

 

A happy and laughing VDN

[Guy Fawkes]

Flawless! :7 That's the reason we keep you around! :+ (Opps, Am I allowed to show respect to Doug69 twice in one day? I must be slipping). BTW: I still disagree with you! ROFLOL

[Guy Fawkes]

> And how many have posted anything?

 

So far this month, 697 messages by 200 people.

[LovesYng]

>Flawless! :7 That's the reason we keep you around! :+

>(Opps, Am I allowed to show respect to Doug69 twice in one

>day? I must be slipping). BTW: I still disagree with you!

>ROFLOL

>

>

Daddy, your one of a kind and I love it. I hope Hoo never fires you, what would we do without you :7

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Rick Munroe]

>Who the fuck would ever be sufficiently upset by something

>they read on an Internet message Board to go run and press an

>ALTER button

 

Yeah, if someone needs alterations, they should see a tailor.

[+ deej]

Beautiful message, Doug.

 

>Who the fuck in their right mind sits on an Internet escort

>message board reading posts and then gets so upset and

>traumatized by what they're reading that they have to run and

>press an ALERT button and call on the authorities to help

>them? What are the people who engage in this behavior

>thinking?

 

Yeah. How DARE someone actually CARE about the online community they participate in, and have made friends in. I mean, REALLY!

 

The NERVE!

 

They actually hope it prospers. This MUST be stopped!

 

Thank God you're immune to the whole caring thing.

 

:9

[+ Lucky]

RE: What's wrong with Granny?

 

Oh, never mind!