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I hope I am not sharing too much with this post. The subject does make me a bit nauseous.

 

Twice this year - and it's just barley halfway through May - I've picked up pubic lice from escorts. Both escorts I have used more than once in the past without incident. But this was the first time I had seen either escort in a long time. I informed both escorts of the problem and both thanked me for telling them but denied having a problem. I will only say that I hope they were treated since they were the only ones from whom I could have picked up the problem.

 

Granted, pubic lice are more of an annoyance than a danger but it's still very unpleasant.

 

So, two points:

 

First is there anyway to tell if an escort has lice when you meet him? Second, be careful out there.

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I hope I am not sharing too much with this post. The subject does make me a bit nauseous.

 

Twice this year - and it's just barley halfway through May - I've picked up pubic lice from escorts. Both escorts I have used more than once in the past without incident. But this was the first time I had seen either escort in a long time. I informed both escorts of the problem and both thanked me for telling them but denied having a problem. I will only say that I hope they were treated since they were the only ones from whom I could have picked up the problem.

 

Granted, pubic lice are more of an annoyance than a danger but it's still very unpleasant.

 

So, two points:

 

First is there anyway to tell if an escort has lice when you meet him? Second, be careful out there.

:eek:

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I don't think there's any way to tell in advance.

 

I got em 15 years ago. And I can say, for certain, that they weren't from an escort, or even from sex. Happened during a period of celibacy, and the only possible human contact was (fully clothed) hugging and adjacent seating in a bar I frequented.

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This whole discussion make me wax all nostalgic (oops, unintentional pun) for my early days as a gay kid in NYC's east village... crabs were part of my experience back then.... and we were relieved when it was "just crabs..."

 

Sorry to go (slightly) off topic....

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Going through puberty in the 70's and becoming more sexually active in the late 70's and very early 80's, I got crabs several times....as I'm sure many of us did. Those were sexually carefree days before the big onset of AIDS. Those were also the days when most men left their pubic hair intact. Not like today where the vast majority of men at least trim pubic hair if not shave it off entirely. It wouldn't shock me to learn that the incidence of crabs has fallen off quite a bit since the 70's-80's. If I'm not mistaken, pubic lice like to have pubic hair to hide between and also to lay their eggs on. If there is no/little pubic hair, it seems it would be harder for pubic lice to colonize/reproduce in the pubic area. Of course, I have no data to prove this is actually the case.

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Going through puberty in the 70's and becoming more sexually active in the late 70's and very early 80's, I got crabs several times....as I'm sure many of us did. Those were sexually carefree days before the big onset of AIDS. Those were also the days when most men left their pubic hair intact. Not like today where the vast majority of men at least trim pubic hair if not shave it off entirely. It wouldn't shock me to learn that the incidence of crabs has fallen off quite a bit since the 70's-80's. If I'm not mistaken, pubic lice like to have pubic hair to hide between and also to lay their eggs on. If there is no/little pubic hair, it seems it would be harder for pubic lice to colonize/reproduce in the pubic area. Of course, I have no data to prove this is actually the case.

Pubic lice prefer pubic hair. The second most likely place to find them, oddly, is eyebrows

..... just another creepy fact learned as a result of m4m experiences.

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Pubic lice prefer pubic hair. The second most likely place to find them, oddly, is eyebrows

..... just another creepy fact learned as a result of m4m experiences.

Interesting about the eyebrows. I never knew that. I did once have a case of pubic lice in my chest hair. I was sure it was pubic lice as they looked the same as the case I had previously had in the pubic area several years before. It was strange because they were only in my chest hair. No sign of them in the pubic hair.

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Going through puberty in the 70's and becoming more sexually active in the late 70's and very early 80's, I got crabs several times....as I'm sure many of us did. Those were sexually carefree days before the big onset of AIDS. Those were also the days when most men left their pubic hair intact. Not like today where the vast majority of men at least trim pubic hair if not shave it off entirely. It wouldn't shock me to learn that the incidence of crabs has fallen off quite a bit since the 70's-80's. If I'm not mistaken, pubic lice like to have pubic hair to hide between and also to lay their eggs on. If there is no/little pubic hair, it seems it would be harder for pubic lice to colonize/reproduce in the pubic area. Of course, I have no data to prove this is actually the case.

 

Back in the 80s was when I started my gay sex life. I have a very sensitive skin with constant allergic problems, so I am often itching. There was this time, shortly after my beginnings, when the itching became extremely intense. I would keep using my creams and lotions for my allergies, until I finally saw movement. When I realize that I have a crabs problem, the little critters have not only taken control of my public hair, but my thighs, the back of my knees, my abs, my chest, and my armpits.

Back then the only treatment was a lotion called DT Bencil (yep, DDT). You would moist the affected parts with the lotion (in my case I had to shower on it) and you had to stay for 24 hours without washing. Yep, you stank like pesticide. It took me two weeks to completely eliminate the insects.

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I am very hairy. I had shaven once before (for esthetic reasons) and had decided that never, ever again I would go through the process of the hair growing back. Freaking itching hell.

 

I guess it helps being smooth as those little critters have nothing to hold on. I have some hair in the pubes but I just keep it trimmed. I don't go full shave as I know what you mean as it grows back

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I got crabs several times in the 1960s and 70s, but then had them only a couple of times in the next twenty years, even though I was still relatively sexually active. I never got them from an escort. I had almost forgotten about them until this thread.

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I first want to point out that lice in any form is a parasite not a disease (STD) or infection, as the current preferred term STI implies. But I also want to ask if I'm the only one that is finding himself psychosymatically itchy as he reads this thread?

 

You're not the only one Lance. My eyebrows have just started to itch!

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I first want to point out that lice in any form is a parasite not a disease (STD) or infection, as the current preferred term STI implies. But I also want to ask if I'm the only one that is finding himself psychosymatically itchy as he reads this thread?

 

Yes . . . Lance is corrrct. It is really an INFESTATION rather than an infection.

But, more important, eyebrows - think of where they have been. :eek:

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