Steroid abuse or not?

[+ StLouisOct]

A recent thread in the Deli section concerns https://rentmen.eu/Alexanderxx. It’s reported that his behavior has become bizarre and erratic. One participant concludes that, after looking at his photos, he’s obviously a steroid user and that steroid abuse may be the cause of such behavior. I’m curious about that conclusion. I think of steroid abusers as those with excessive bulges and protruding veins everywhere – the type of escorts many muscle worshippers adore. I think of Alendaerxx as well built and pumped up for photos. Am I wrong? Is a body like his often the result of steroid use?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I don't see steroid use with this kid at all. He's 5'6 and 135. Those are small stats. I mean, if anything, a little winstrol, but highly doubtful.

 

Perhaps he's just figuring out that he's bipolar or having an incredibly shitty few weeks. These things happen.

[caliguy]

That's not a steroid body. Maybe it's drugs.

[Epigonos]

Over the years I have been around a multitude of guys using steroids and you can take my word for it this guy isn't on the roids.

Edited April 25, 2018 by Epigonos

[+ sniper]

Sometimes it's not that they're taking steroids to build muscle, but they are taking amphetamines as a fat burner.

[caliguy]

Sometimes it's not that they're taking steroids to build muscle, but they are taking amphetamines as a fat burner.

I miss being able to buy amphetamines anywhere. Yeah it was super easy to lose weight or even gain muscle.

 

I'm sure there still available. You just have to know where to look.

[+ OliverSaks]

I miss being able to buy amphetamines anywhere. Yeah it was super easy to lose weight or even gain muscle.

 

I'm sure there still available. You just have to know where to look.

Hint: ask one of the millions of children who are taking it / go to any college campus

[Rudynate]

I miss being able to buy amphetamines anywhere. Yeah it was super easy to lose weight or even gain muscle.

 

I'm sure there still available. You just have to know where to look.

 

Are you talking about illicit sources or by prescription? They haven't been readily available by prescription for 40 or 50 years. Given the number of students and techies who fuel themselves w/adderall to binge work/study, there must be illicit sources for it. It used to be very easy to buy modafinil offshore, but no longer.

[+ tassojunior]

Assume Adderall. Hard to go wrong with that assumption with young people now.

[caliguy]

Are you talking about illicit sources or by prescription? They haven't been readily available by prescription for 40 or 50 years. Given the number of students and techies who fuel themselves w/adderall to binge work/study, there must be illicit sources for it. It used to be very easy to buy modafinil offshore, but no longer.

I'm talking about Ephedrine which was banned in 2006. Every gym had it in there Sports drinks. I remember ones like Ripped Fuel. Those babies were rocket fuel.

 

I don' know the difference between the chemical structure of adderall and ephedrine. I believe adderall's more similar to methamphetamine.

[caliguy]

Hint: ask one of the millions of children who are taking it / go to any college campus

There's a show that I watched recently on Netflix called "take your pills". It made it look like everyone was doing it. It almost seemed like a promotion piece for adderal. They don't consider it speed or a drug. They they actually called it brain fuel.

[+ sniper]

I'm talking about Ephedrine which was banned in 2006. Every gym had it in there Sports drinks. I remember ones like Ripped Fuel. Those babies were rocket fuel.

 

I don' know the difference between the chemical structure of adderall and ephedrine. I believe adderall's more similar to methamphetamine.

 

Yeah I took hydroxycut and noticed within a week I was having violent mood swings so I stopped. Like I am a shy person and suddenly I was chewing out strangers at the gym, then being mortified at my behavior. At the same time, it definitely curbed appetite and I felt sharper at mental tasks.

[+ OliverSaks]

I'm talking about Ephedrine which was banned in 2006. Every gym had it in there Sports drinks. I remember ones like Ripped Fuel. Those babies were rocket fuel.

 

I don' know the difference between the chemical structure of adderall and ephedrine. I believe adderall's more similar to methamphetamine.

“As a phenethylamine, ephedrine has a similar chemical structure to amphetamines and is a methamphetamine analogue having the methamphetamine structure with a hydroxyl group at the β position. Because of ephedrine's structural similarity to methamphetamine, it can be used to create methamphetamine using chemical reduction in which ephedrine's hydroxyl group is removed; this has made ephedrine a highly sought-after chemical precursor in the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine.“

 

Mixed Amphetamine salts/Adderall is structurally very similar to methamphetamine (T/crystal), scary!

Edited April 25, 2018 by OliverSaks

[Rudynate]

I'm talking about Ephedrine which was banned in 2006. Every gym had it in there Sports drinks. I remember ones like Ripped Fuel. Those babies were rocket fuel.

 

I don' know the difference between the chemical structure of adderall and ephedrine. I believe adderall's more similar to methamphetamine.

 

Ephedrine, although a stimulant is not an amphetamine. It is an amine. I believe it is a precursor substance in at least some synthesis processes for meth.

[Rudynate]

“As a phenethylamine, ephedrine has a similar chemical structure to amphetamines and is a methamphetamine analogue having the methamphetamine structure with a hydroxyl group at the β position. Because of ephedrine's structural similarity to methamphetamine, it can be used to create methamphetamine using chemical reduction in which ephedrine's hydroxyl group is removed; this has made ephedrine a highly sought-after chemical precursor in the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine.“

 

Mixed Amphetamine salts/Adderall is structurally very similar to methamphetamine (T/crystal), scary!

 

Pharmaceutically-produced methamphetamine is available by prescription, brand name Desoxyn, for narcolepsy and severe attention deficits.

[+ OliverSaks]

Pharmaceutically-produced methamphetamine is available by prescription, brand name Desoxyn, for narcolepsy and severe attention deficits.

I’m embarrassed that I didn’t know that! Should have guessed, since heroin/cocaine/cannabis/psychedelics/ketamine/analogs are all used medically too

 

I heard stories of guy with severe ADHD who used to self medicate with street meth (after another doctor refused to treat him with Adderall because he was “probably drug seeking” - severe ADHD is serious, dangerous business)